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Type4_PTS

Diamond Invictus SP
Cat's are our masters and we must serve them diligently and without complaint.

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Miss Pert

Silver Meritorious Patron
What a great thread, thanks x-x, I haven't so much in a long time. :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:

Also reading about IAAS's cat reminded of a tape, or reference, on one of the levels where some guy is convinced he was "pain-drug-hypnotised" by his cat. Anyone remember that, maybe that's what's really happened here.
 

x-x

Patron with Honors
That's what LRH said, and that's what you obviously believe.

Let's look at some things, shall we?

The modern Scn critic scene really started with the explosion of activitiy on ARS in 1994.

Since then, has it actually grown?
Please cite independenty-verifiable statistics that support your case, especially any that refute the training section of friendsoflrh.org.

I couldn't agree more about the sentiments in What Happened to Training.

About the only training done now is TTC members.

I actually wrote up to Management in the nineties that reviewing Advance Mag stats from Saint Hill that the orgs were becoming clinics.

I have been in an org during times of attack, it raises necessity level in the staff, which is one way of contronting the bank, and it probably brings a better class of public, those who are non conformists.

DM has sanitised Scientology, taking out the little bits that would offend the middle class. I wish I had kept my old books but due to lack of space I threw them out.
 

x-x

Patron with Honors
:lol:

At least you have a sense of humour ... there may be hope for you yet.

Do you think you should announce to Nick Xenophon and all the anons what entry program they will need to do, prior to becoming scientologists and the additional cost factors that will be involved (them being major SP's and DB's and all)?

Or, has all the endless hubbard policy on suppressive personality's and degraded beings been 'dissolved' by the decisive, (and asthmatic) dwarf ... due perhaps to most of the planet now being ever so mean and horrid and suppressive to scientology?

Or wot.

I suppose it is understandable, the cofs gross income can't be allowed to drop, so standards will just have to be dropped instead and any old (financially well endowed) DB's and SP's will have to allowed into the cult.

There is a very funny side to this somehow ...



Actually an ethics prog doesn't have to be such a big deal. It seems that one of the things happening to Scn after DM but possibly before with the Flag Bureaux is to grind things down that should be fast and light.

If there was honest ethics change there would be a short prog of amends and then auditing could begin. There might be more ethics needed to get onto the OT levels but that how I would run it.
 

x-x

Patron with Honors
A couple of things....

X-X I watched your online status very carefully and saw that you read every reply on that thread and were never at the point of writing a reply. I gave you 24 hours (minimally) to reply but you didn't. I wasn't about to leave your poo around to stink up the joint for too long.

I very much like the idea of FSMing a bunch of Anons into Scientology! Think of all those dudes on TROBB! Fuck that'd be a riot. :p

I didn't know St Paul was a scientologist either. :duh:

If Scientology grows when attacked then why do you want the good folks here on the board to stop their "attacks"? Surely this would just mean your religion would grow faster. :confused2:

Well I did read them all and you must have just closed the thread because I wrote a reply and then when I went to post it there was an error report.

Well attacks are Dev T and needless enturbulation, there is the rough road and the easy road I guess. I met you, if you had got the wins you deserve from Scientology you would still be there, KSW 1.
 

Ladybird

Silver Meritorious Patron
I couldn't agree more about the sentiments in What Happened to Training.

About the only training done now is TTC members.

I actually wrote up to Management in the nineties that reviewing Advance Mag stats from Saint Hill that the orgs were becoming clinics.

I have been in an org during times of attack, it raises necessity level in the staff, which is one way of contronting the bank, and it probably brings a better class of public, those who are non conformists.

DM has sanitised Scientology, taking out the little bits that would offend the middle class. I wish I had kept my old books but due to lack of space I threw them out.

Yes, you are right about the orgs being clinics, but it didn't start in the 90's. It has always been a problem. I would guess that even in the 70's and 80's the course rooms were 90% Outer Org trainees or TTC. The Div 6 public courserooms were tiny, mostly filled with PC's waiting to get their "cases" handled. Even fewer public were on course in the Div 4 courserooms. They would rather sit by the pool or relax. If you got them on a course they complained about the schedule and wanted to come and go as they pleased.


DM isn't the only one who changed the books, policy and tech bulletins. Even in the 70's when I 1st started almost everything was changed, revised or re-issued many times by LRH himself. If anything went wrong of course Hubbard would blame someone else.

There is a lot of history on the Internet x-x, I hope you will take advantage of it and do a real doubt formula.
 

thetanic

Gold Meritorious Patron
I couldn't agree more about the sentiments in What Happened to Training.

About the only training done now is TTC members.

So given that a lot of auditors were expelled or left, and all certs were cancelled at one point, and there's so little training now, I have one question:

How could Scientology possibly be expanding in any meaningful sense?
 

Carmel

Crusader
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Well attacks are Dev T and needless enturbulation, there is the rough road and the easy road I guess. I met you, if you had got the wins you deserve from Scientology you would still be there, KSW 1.

It makes no difference whether you've "met" Emma or not, whether or not you've met any of us, and/or what you think of us.

Why would we be affected by who you are, and/or who you may know or what you may think of us, when we're not seeing any *you* here - We're only seeing and dealing with a part of a machine that's dishing out the machine's work.

I see that part of the machine running a little differently now. I'm surprised to see how quickly it got its grease and oil change, back into gear, and now set on a new direction. All credit to ya.....you might fool some. :)
 
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