Seven Spectacular Scientology Super-powers (and Tom Cruise still can't fly.)

KnightVision

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From ARS: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/browse_thread/thread/196d8fadc5fb27ce?pli=1

Seven Spectacular Scientology Super-powers (and Tom Cruise still can't fly.)

I'm getting ready to do a more focused 2nd reading of the "basics"
books, and in reviewing my notes from the first time, I pulled
together a little collection of quotes about the powers Hubbard
promises his followers. Honestly, this list reminds me a little of
the TV show The 4400, with the classes offered by a charismatic leader
in the last season that were supposed to give normal people powers
like the 4400 had. I'll have to see if the video store has it.
So here it is, for your enjoyment, my seven favorite scientology super-
powers.

(Please bear in mind that according to Church of Scientology
Religious Services Enrollment Application section 2c you can't take
anything LRH said seriously.)



$cientology super-power #1 - A Scientologist can make you feel hot:
“When a thetan discharges energy, another person may feel hot.”
Scientology 8-80 page 110
$cientology super-power #2 - A Scientologist can heal himself or
others:
“Healing at a glance is done by a thetan, not interiorized, making
perfect duplicates of the illness of a body without perfectly
duplicating the body itself.”
The Creation of Human Ability page 136
“The thetan can clean up and heal his own body and those of others at
will.”
Scientology 8-80 page 111
$cientology super-power #3 - A Scientologist can convince inanimate
objects not to get stolen:
“Operating Thetan should be able to fix and unfix ideas in energy,
i.e., to be able to fix into a car an idea that “it can’t be stolen,”
and it won’t be.”
The Creation of Human Ability page 376
$cientology super-power #4 - A Scientologist can make you see
illusions, and move objects with his mind:
“The state of Cleared Theta Clear is, however, another thing. For it
means a person who is able to create his own universe or, living in
the MEST universe, is able to create illusions perceivable by others
at will, to handle MEST universe objects without mechanical means and
to have and feel no need of bodies or even the MEST universe to keep
himself and his friends interested in existence.”
Scientology 8-8008 page 175
“After a very large amount of auditing, even as much as fifty hours
(when the preclear has regained his ability to create, with
considerable solidity, his own illusions), it will be found that the
preclear can at will perceive the MEST universe and can do so with
accuracy. He can further (without the aid of a body) move objects,
heal at a distance and do a thousand other “interesting tricks” which
could very well be viewed with considerable awe. For they have not
been seen on earth in recorded history, but have lived in legend.”
Scientology 8-8008 page 170
“An Operating Thetan, then, is one who can handle things without
having to use a body of physical means. “Poltergeist” is a learned
term for only one of the phenomena of this state.”
Scientology 0-8 page 425
$cientology super-power #5 - A Scientologist can control other bodies:
“…the awareness of awareness unit can control or even make physical
bodies…”
Dianetics 55! page 50
$cientology super-power #6 - A Scientologist can create a measurable
flow of energy at a distance:
“It goes further and demonstrates that the awareness of awareness unit
can bring about, without further contact, an energy flow in a body at
a distance. This is a very startling demonstration, and is one of the
more significant electrical discoveries of recent times. The
conditions of the experiment are sufficiently rigorous to dispel any
doubt, in the mind of a physicist, concerning the authenticity of the
current.”
Dianetics 55! page 28
$cientology super-power #7 - A Scientologist is bulletproof:
“…one might go so far as to say that a bullet's arrival is a heavy
sort of hypnotism. The individual receiving a bullet does not outflow
a bullet and thus he is injured. If he could outflow a bullet
immediately after receiving a bullet, we could introduce the
interesting question: "Would he be wounded?" According to our rule he
would not be. Indeed, if he were in perfect communication with his
environment, he could not even receive a bullet injuriously…”
Dianetics 55! page 105
Hubbard, L. Ron. Scientology 8-80: The Discovery & Increase of Life
Energy in the Genus Homo Sapiens. Los Angeles, CA. Bridge
Publications, Inc. 2007.
Hubbard, L. Ron. The Creation of Human Ability: A Handbook for
Scientologists. Los Angeles, CA. Bridge Publications, Inc. 2007.
Hubbard, L. Ron. Scientology 8-8008. Los Angeles, CA. Bridge
Publications, Inc. 2007.
Hubbard, L. Ron. Scientology 0-8: The Book of Basics. Los Angeles, CA.
Bridge Publications, Inc. 2007.
Hubbard, L. Ron. Dianetics 55!. Los Angeles, CA. Bridge Publications,
Inc. 2007.
Peace,
Chef Xenu
_________
REB Slaughter (USN-RET)
SP V - Marcab Mess Saucer Crew 1138, 4th (or 5th) Marcabian Invader
Force
http://youtube.com/ChefXenu - Bachelor pad cooking meets $cientology
http://youtube.com/OhioXenu - Protest footage + enturbulation
 
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klidov

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WTG-KV, now all of us wogs (or unenlightened beings) are going to battle pneumonia!

:bigcry:
 

Voltaire's Child

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I've seen people exert power over material objects and situations quite often. Also, I'm unaware that Tom Cruise ever said he planned to be able to fly. Although, I guess if he actually did express such a hope, he's doomed to disappointment.:coolwink:
 

KnightVision

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OK then, before we get off to hooo-goooo-boooo-goooo 'tech' sightings and all... how about we just talk plain simple truth??

If I could exteriorize and or simply control objects without the need of a physically oriented ability to do so...

This is what I could do:


Invite you over

Have you stand next to me

point out an object, say a frisbee, at perhaps 20 feet away

tell you I am going to flip it over using (not physical) means

then flip it over using (not physical) means

then go over to it and let you inspect it (to eliminate the possibility of trickery)

then let you stand next to it

then I return 20 feet away

tell you I am going to flip it over again, using (not physical) means

then flip it over again, using (not physical) means

Now if this ability exists (by the above example or another of very similar principle that can be easily shown and verified.... Why has nobody ever demonstrated it? If they have... why is the sole 'proof' verbal explanation?

Look, if this could be done and or learned then it could be just as easily proven to the masses in a non secretive, open platform.

Now if this cannot be done, meaning the act and the proof of it.... IMO the only result one can achieve by stating that they 'know' it's true, etc is to confuse, disrupt and entrap others in the idea of it. This is especially true when one states such things and ALSO is an outspoken supporter and proponent for a 'super natural' belief system, religion or practice.
 
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Human Again

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Dianetics 55! page 28
$cientology super-power #7 - A Scientologist is bulletproof:
“…one might go so far as to say that a bullet's arrival is a heavy
sort of hypnotism. The individual receiving a bullet does not outflow
a bullet and thus he is injured. If he could outflow a bullet
immediately after receiving a bullet, we could introduce the
interesting question: "Would he be wounded?" According to our rule he
would not be. Indeed, if he were in perfect communication with his
environment, he could not even receive a bullet injuriously…”

Peace,
Chef Xenu
_________ ]

So we should be able to shoot COB, with a gun and a real bullet and he'd suffer no bad consequences?

I'd like to see that... or at least the first part....
 

Zinjifar

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Dianetics 55! page 28
$cientology super-power #7 - A Scientologist is bulletproof:
“…one might go so far as to say that a bullet's arrival is a heavy
sort of hypnotism. The individual receiving a bullet does not outflow
a bullet and thus he is injured. If he could outflow a bullet
immediately after receiving a bullet, we could introduce the
interesting question: "Would he be wounded?" According to our rule he
would not be. Indeed, if he were in perfect communication with his
environment, he could not even receive a bullet injuriously…”

Peace,
Chef Xenu
_________ ]

So we should be able to shoot COB, with a gun and a real bullet and he'd suffer no bad consequences?

I'd like to see that... or at least the first part....

Note: In many cases bullets do not remain in the body, but pass directly through, however, they tend to leave a hole behind.

Bullets don't kill people; holes in people kill people.
Ban holes in people.

Zinj
 

KnightVision

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Taking another stab at 'Spectacular Scientology Super-powers'....


As it is common knowledge amongst 'rational thinking folk'...

That Scn. does not create Super-powers any more that the Kabala or Astrology.. the question arises... why were they mentioned as obtainable thru scn. practice and processing??

One answer comes to mind: To Lure You In.

And Another: To Invite You To Psychologically Believe in Fantastic Results and Realities.

Which begets a further question: Why would that be necessary? Why indeed if the 'tech' accomplished sufficient gain otherwise?

This Answer Comes to Mind: The gain available is insufficiently notable and non consistent.

And Another: Achieving 'Super-powers' is no simple matter and can take 'forever' but just imagine what you'll achieve when you 'get there'.

Yet Another: As you won't attain any 'Super-powers'.... having simply planted the possibility and hooked You with the Desire for it... You Are Quite Likely to Start Assigning 'Super-Results' gains to your auditing and training 'Wins'... That in itself can carry one forth continuing the practice for the base line benefit of being 'allowed' to do so....
 

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Sorry KV, we all seem to be very preoccupied with getting pneumonia and making jokes...you have tried so hard to help us focus and we ....just keep disappointing....

OK, well since I have never met a person, or seen a real person (alive) on TV move objects ...I don't believe it can be done or achieved. Certainly no one in scientology I have seen can do anything remotely above raw meat status. Seeing OT8's with eyeglasses and being poor...well nuff said.

However, if you watched any sci fi on halloween and other times like I do (ghostly stuff), GHOSTS seem to have what we are looking for. There were some crazy physical phenomena filmed and witnessed historically. That, is the unfortunate part--having to lose the body to do this.

I do believe that people can be psychic to different extents and I do consider that an advanced ability that I want.
 
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Power Change

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Taking another stab at 'Spectacular Scientology Super-powers'....


As it is common knowledge amongst 'rational thinking folk'...

That Scn. does not create Super-powers any more that the Kabala or Astrology.. the question arises... why were they mentioned as obtainable thru scn. practice and processing??

One answer comes to mind: To Lure You In.

And Another: To Invite You To Psychologically Believe in Fantastic Results and Realities.

Which begets a further question: Why would that be necessary? Why indeed if the 'tech' accomplished sufficient gain otherwise?

This Answer Comes to Mind: The gain available is insufficiently notable and non consistent.

And Another: Achieving 'Super-powers' is no simple matter and can take 'forever' but just imagine what you'll achieve when you 'get there'.

Yet Another: As you won't attain any 'Super-powers'.... having simply planted the possibility and hooked You with the Desire for it... You Are Quite Likely to Start Assigning 'Super-Results' gains to your auditing and training 'Wins'... That in itself can carry one forth continuing the practice for the base line benefit of being 'allowed' to do so....

I believe it is to lure you in and give you a goal that they , through smoke and mirrors and fables, show you is a possibility. Part of my buy in came from all the fables told to me and all the 'abilities gained' by OT's --never told to me BY an OT...but by SO....usually the reg's.

Also, Hubbard talks about giving people a larger problem to solve than the ones they have...much larger and that their problems would just dissappear in the presence of this larger problem you give them. THIS is the mystery sandwich.

SCN and the church do this daily to suck you in. They have you believe the world is falling apart, that you are destined to a dwindling spiral, that there is a mass conspiracy of psychs following us all on out time track, that if we dont go free..we will perish.

They do this SO well, through the lectures, courses, readings....that it takes ALL of it ( -the education-the fables-the smoke and mirrors/fancy MEST-meters, bldgs, rules, books)--- to help you to SEE that scn is IT....IT has the answers....and suddenly money becomes a minor inconvenience, your friends and family become 'just another thetan not related to you in any way.

The larger problem they have convinced you that you now have (the bank, dangerous environment, etc etc)...takes precedence and suddenly no one matters---you must get up the bridge ---it becomes a matter of survival.

Thankfully, I realized after being fooled and robbed... that the larger problem they gave me....is utter fantasy and utter fabrication....ALL to lure ....to MAKE MONEY and CONTROL PEOPLE.
 
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