Sex in the Sea Org and Scientology in general

Finding a soulmate is one thing, playing the game is another.

Even if you find your soulmate, you may want to come out and play at some point. Its a guy thing. For instance ... while I was living in the greater LA area, there were some foods from opposite ends of the spectrum that I enjoyed ... I especially liked going to the most authentic of Mexican restaurants and getting a bowl of menudo, which is a hot an spicy soup, more of a stew, where the meat is beef tripe, cow stomach liner. And then there was going to all you can eat Japanese buffets, where I would go thru as many as 7 plates of raw fish. But as much as I liked either of those dishes, I doubt that I could deal with eating nothing but either of them again and again night after night. At some point, I would definitely want to go to Jerry's Famous Deli over in Studio City and get a huge pastrami sandwich.

Anyways ... so you are attached or not, you decide that you want to go out and play. Paying for it is out of the question, you will be left completely unsatisfied and feel ripped off. So you are left with the option of playing the game or not playing. To not play is to guarantee your sense of frustration. To play is to risk feeling more frustrated. You decide to play. Now what? YOU NEED SOME SORT OF ANGLE TO SET YOU APART FROM THE CROWD IN A POSITIVE MANNER. If you are known to have serious money, that is the most generic means possible. If you do NOT have serious money but you have more than most, enough to play the game well ... you can use a relatively small investment to create the APPEARANCE of wealth.

For guys my age ... mid 50's ... the most ingenious system I have seen in action ... three of my friends in the greater LA area pooled resources and started a limo company, including incorporation, corporate officer positions, etc. They pooled enough capital to purchase a used Caddy stretch limo that was wrecked. They had a connection that pulled the frame to straighten it out, and had extensive work done. By the time it was finished, it looked brand spanking new and they had like 14k between the 3 of them invested. They then had a custom bar built in the passenger compartment, other ammenities as well. They invested in getting their chauffer's licenses, they invested in tuxedo's and limo driver uniforms. By the time they were all done they had like 20k invested. They had some hired driver to keep the car on the road enough nights to let it pay for their escapades with the profits, which weren't much, but covered expenses for them.

Here is the modus operandi they used ... on any given night that they went out, all three went out together. One would be the driver, he wouldn't get out of the car, he would be in uniform. The other two would be in tuxedo's. The two that were playing would go out to an upper class hotel lobby bar and create a stir, being overdressed. They would be looked at by all sorts of women who would perceive that they obviously just came from some sort of black tie affair. They would then say "we have a limo, there's champagne!" Their hit rate was 50%. If two women came into the car with them, they scored invariably. Half the time they would go home alone, half the time they would get some women in the car with them. They were meeting women generally in their mid to late 30's, sometimes mid to late 20's. They always had a cover story as to where they came from and why the tuxedo's and their circumstance was they were always from out of town, so that story put women on notice that they were out for a good time only.

There is another method that works that is cheaper, and that is always have the absolute top of the line connoseur quality marijuana, top of the line cocaine (NOT CRACK, too low class) and some hard to obtain perscription drugs such as percodans, percocets, dilauded, vicodin, the little pink hearts (dextroamphetamine sulfate 5mg) and black beauties (that one is the holy grail of perscription fun drugs). Try to keep it to just the weed. What you do NOT want is a low class junkie, what you want is some gal who has enjoyed weed way back when, is bored, alone, frustrated, and has zip point zero zilch nada access to weed because she is NOT a junkie and doesn't run with a drug using crowd. The War on Drugs has polarized the population into total drug zombies or total straights, usually for fear of busts and piss tests. To have great weed on hand at the right time for a gal that wants to cut loose for a bit but has no access, THAT is an entree, and a relatively inexpensive one at that.

Of anything that I have seen in action that works consistently, its the limo game.

Pete

I hope you all are happy with different avatars.

I think that it is way cool that we are talking openly about drugs.

We had a friend, a couple of years ago, who threw a big 40th birthday party for her husband. The band that played are friends of mine (Charlie Rush was the original drummer). There was lots of dope. It was out in the open. It was like the 60s used to be. It really was quite nice.

It's 2010. I haven't had but one 2D since 1976, who wasn't a Class Vlll. And I didn't get connected in a bar or club. I'm pretty boring actually. Depending on how you count the children (his / her / theirs) we have 2 kids who were Class Vllls when they were in. The older one grows organic tomatoes in her backyard. The younger one has a boyfriend at UCLA working on his Piled higher and Deeper (Ph.D) Like I said, boring.
 

GoNuclear

Gold Meritorious Patron
boring

I hope you all are happy with different avatars.

I think that it is way cool that we are talking openly about drugs.

We had a friend, a couple of years ago, who threw a big 40th birthday party for her husband. The band that played are friends of mine (Charlie Rush was the original drummer). There was lots of dope. It was out in the open. It was like the 60s used to be. It really was quite nice.

It's 2010. I haven't had but one 2D since 1976, who wasn't a Class Vlll. And I didn't get connected in a bar or club. I'm pretty boring actually. Depending on how you count the children (his / her / theirs) we have 2 kids who were Class Vllls when they were in. The older one grows organic tomatoes in her backyard. The younger one has a boyfriend at UCLA working on his Piled higher and Deeper (Ph.D) Like I said, boring.

I know all about boring, believe me.

The discussion here, morphing from sex in the Sea Org and in Scilonland in general, over to sex in the WOG world and how "the game is played" from a guy's point of view ... it is all strictly a matter-of-fact discussion. I am past that, and object of my attention now is finding a way to relocate to the boondocks. My objective is my own fuel manufacture, my own chicken coop, my own greens via greenhouse growing, my own water supply, my own electricity, etc. Success is getting totally off of all the control grids. My dream house will be an inexpensively constructed structure that will probably look like a steel barn on the outside but the inside will be a little bit of heaven, constructed around greenhouse covered courtyard with exotic plants, wooden walk ways, riverbed smooth pebbles, a large Koi pond, pleasant scents from the plants, pleasant sounds from the babbling brook thru the covered courtyard area, no street noise, lots of friends over from time to time who would like to get away from city noise. To that end I already have a rural property but it needs lots of work.

Pete
 
Back in the early 70s, when I thought inflation was going to go galluping away, I got into "Mother Earth News". It was a mag. It probably still is. here is a link to it

http://www.motherearthnews.com/

This magazine, when I was reading it was all about do farming yourself. It should still be an amazing resource.


I know all about boring, believe me.

The discussion here, morphing from sex in the Sea Org and in Scilonland in general, over to sex in the WOG world and how "the game is played" from a guy's point of view ... it is all strictly a matter-of-fact discussion. I am past that, and object of my attention now is finding a way to relocate to the boondocks. My objective is my own fuel manufacture, my own chicken coop, my own greens via greenhouse growing, my own water supply, my own electricity, etc. Success is getting totally off of all the control grids. My dream house will be an inexpensively constructed structure that will probably look like a steel barn on the outside but the inside will be a little bit of heaven, constructed around greenhouse covered courtyard with exotic plants, wooden walk ways, riverbed smooth pebbles, a large Koi pond, pleasant scents from the plants, pleasant sounds from the babbling brook thru the covered courtyard area, no street noise, lots of friends over from time to time who would like to get away from city noise. To that end I already have a rural property but it needs lots of work.

Pete


Have you ever seen the koi pond at the Dole pineapple plantation NE of Honolulu? There, you feed the koi and they pile on top of one another, jump out of the water to get food. They are amazing.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=44583287
 
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lkwdblds

Crusader
Does she audit her tomatoes as did LRH?

I hope you all are happy with different avatars.

I think that it is way cool that we are talking openly about drugs.

We had a friend, a couple of years ago, who threw a big 40th birthday party for her husband. The band that played are friends of mine (Charlie Rush was the original drummer). There was lots of dope. It was out in the open. It was like the 60s used to be. It really was quite nice.

It's 2010. I haven't had but one 2D since 1976, who wasn't a Class Vlll. And I didn't get connected in a bar or club. I'm pretty boring actually. Depending on how you count the children (his / her / theirs) we have 2 kids who were Class Vllls when they were in. The older one grows organic tomatoes in her backyard. The younger one has a boyfriend at UCLA working on his Piled higher and Deeper (Ph.D) Like I said, boring.

This is not that boring. Does your older kid hook up an e-meter to the organic tomatoes and peer intently at the meter while perhaps lighting a match and bringing it close to a tomato plant? If so, we may have another LRH in the making and that would certainly be the antidote to boredom.

Say hello to Charlie Rush for me. He twinned with Kenny Wasserman on the Course Supervisor Hatting Course at CCLA. Wasserman went on to be the world's best HQS Course Supervisor while Rush went on to be the drummer on the Apollo Stars. God, that first record album they cut with LRH's help and some of his ...noise..er, uh music, was really terrible. The only good piece on the album was by George Gershwin. Wasserman was so magnetic he had over 100 newbies on his HQS course regularly in 1972 and 1973. Due to Scn's enormous growth rate, claimed to be 25 times larger now than in the early 80's in fact more growth in 2009 than all 59 previous years combined. Judging from those claims, any given Org should have a minimum of 2,500 on HQS on any given day. Why are there only a handful of students in the plush confines of the academies of each palatial Ideal Org. Kenny left Scn long ago and is still living, maybe they should rescind his declare and bring him back as Int HQS Course, IC. It would cost them some money, maybe $50 a week but it would be worth it to fill those Div VI Course rooms and academies again.

This thread now reminds me of my Apollo in 1973 thread and where it was last October when Carmelo started lurking on it. It is a well read thread with about 8,000 views and over 300 replies and has pretty much covered its original topic quite thoroughly. The question then becomes whether to stop creating it and just let it run its course or to find some new area to explore and set off in a new direction. What to do? What to do? What to do?

Go Nuclear and Carmelo have already made a start in a new direction. I'm going to watch where it goes from here.
Lakey
 

Pierrot

Patron with Honors
I hear you loud and clear but are those the types of women one really wants to get involved with? I don't know for sure but am just asking.

Look at that old you know what. Hugh Hefner, all that money and glitz and he seems to get whoever he wants. That is a perfect example of what you are talking about. If you don't have money, you can compensate with extremely good looks in many instances. With out either of those two qualities, there is still a variety of opportunities open to you but you have to either just get lucky and run into a soul mate or get creative and figure out some sort of angle which enables you to succeed. You have to figure out a way to be different and to stand out from the crowd. Usually, it can be done. This one friend of my Son was into Irish type dancing, where you use only your feet and don't do much of anything with your hands. He belonged to an Irish dancing club and the girls were all knockouts to look at, at least as good as the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, if not better. There was a scarcity of males in the Irish Dancing Club and my Son's friend was just average looking, not from a rich family and had just an average personality and he brought over his girlfriend from the Dance Club. The girlfriend looked like the cover girl on the Sports Illustrated annual swimsuit addition and she was all over this guy like he was a God. I remarked to my Son's friend how lucky he was to be going with such a hot and spunky girl and he replied that he was getting tired of her and was thinking of dumping her in favor of one of the other dancers in the club. THE MORAL OF THE STORY FOR MALES IS TO LEARN TO DO IRISH DANCING AND THEN JOIN AN IRISH DANCING CLUB.
Lakey
Lakey

:eyeroll:

Before this thread sails into other waters...

I was happily married with someone met while on staff. We both shared (and still do, as we stayed friends) curiosity for Phiosophy, Spirituality, etc and at some point, when there were no more questions in our quest left... we separated and divorced.

All this to say that during my Scn auditing or training there was no concern nor interest in handling anything related to the 2d dynamic, as all was well.

I was surprised then, after the divorce about 10 years ago, when some affective trouble hit me in the teeth, and I noticed I ... didn't understand women and the game that was being played. Well, it wasn't that bad actually but dating was a problem. I had to sort of learn it all over again.

So I studied the subject, the net gives a LOT of data if one knows where to look. Psychology books (I ddn't find in Scn anything regarding 2d I found of interest, it was too much the flavour of the Fifties or Sixties for my taste) do give good background and there are also materials form... specialists ;-)

For those interested google "the mystery method" or Neil Strauss (in hs book "the Game" he writes about him meeting Tom Cruise) or the nickname David Deangelo, and from there on... - plenty of data available a lot for free on the net.

I don't dance. I don't display money, actually a woman who'd aproach me on that basis - how rich I might be - is disqualified. When I go to dancing clubs or bars in the "hunting" mode lol! I end up with e-mails and phone numbers and woman getting in touch with me days later on asking "why didn't you call me before?" and I have the most fun with the hottest chicks around, be it one on one basis or threesomes and more, whether there is competition, other males all around the woman or not, it doesn't matter. Age doesn't matter either. It's fun, it's about social skills, the fact of selecting women with the best sense of humor and intelligence guarantees very fun evenings and relationships.

Some guys are "naturals", for whatever reason they just know what to do and do not. It all can be learned if needed. And from there on dating or having a relatonship isn't a problem anymore.

Just saying...
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
Claire de la Luna, Mon ami Pierrot!

:eyeroll:

Before this thread sails into other waters...

I was happily married with someone met while on staff. We both shared (and still do, as we stayed friends) curiosity for Phiosophy, Spirituality, etc and at some point, when there were no more questions in our quest left... we separated and divorced.

All this to say that during my Scn auditing or training there was no concern nor interest in handling anything related to the 2d dynamic, as all was well.

I was surprised then, after the divorce about 10 years ago, when some affective trouble hit me in the teeth, and I noticed I ... didn't understand women and the game that was being played. Well, it wasn't that bad actually but dating was a problem. I had to sort of learn it all over again.

So I studied the subject, the net gives a LOT of data if one knows where to look. Psychology books (I ddn't find in Scn anything regarding 2d I found of interest, it was too much the flavour of the Fifties or Sixties for my taste) do give good background and there are also materials form... specialists ;-)

For those interested google "the mystery method" or Neil Strauss (in hs book "the Game" he writes about him meeting Tom Cruise) or the nickname David Deangelo, and from there on... - plenty of data available a lot for free on the net.

I don't dance. I don't display money, actually a woman who'd aproach me on that basis - how rich I might be - is disqualified. When I go to dancing clubs or bars in the "hunting" mode lol! I end up with e-mails and phone numbers and woman getting in touch with me days later on asking "why didn't you call me before?" and I have the most fun with the hottest chicks around, be it one on one basis or threesomes and more, whether there is competition, other males all around the woman or not, it doesn't matter. Age doesn't matter either. It's fun, it's about social skills, the fact of selecting women with the best sense of humor and intelligence guarantees very fun evenings and relationships.

I used to have a lot of wins dancing. First a couple of fast dances, then a break for some drinks and talking and then when they play a slow number and you dance, you get sort of a "free test drive" of what life would be like being on intimate terms with certain attractive ladies. Man, some of those slow dances could get pretty hot and heavy!!

I agree with you fully on the "rich" angle, I would also disqualify such a person. I like your comments on the age question because I am really getting up there now but I look perhaps 15 years younger than I am. Mentally and personality wise I am still at about 30, similar to Jack Benny.

Some guys are "naturals", for whatever reason they just know what to do and do not. It all can be learned if needed. And from there on dating or having a relatonship isn't a problem anymore.

I am Mr.two left feet in my natural condition but after about 3 beers, 2 glasses of wine or two quick shots of Beefeater on the rocks, I am almost a natural. The transformation is amazingly quick and requires so little alcohol. I was raised drug free and my only drug history was trying pot 4 times. I actually liked it but got the same effect from a couple of beers so being the straight kind of guy which I am, I decided to not break the law and just use beers to loosen up.

Just saying...

Mon ami Pierrot,
I remember dialoging with you about 3 or 4 months ago and commenting on your name Pierrot. My ex wife is French and played a tape of French childrens song's for our kids on our tape player in our 1986 minivan when the kids were growing up. "I just loved Claire de la Lune."

Thanks for your informative post, a post totally on topic. Well, we do not have to change course if there is more to be said on the original topic. Also, I am totally willing to let this thread peter out on its own. In fact I already did that when it had 1745 views some time ago but Heidrun Beer, my protege in thread hosting took over after about a week's lapse and totally brought the thread back to life and then some.

For my next project, I ran a terrific thread on Education back in October of last year just before I started this thread. The posts on my education thread were some of the best posts I have ever read and were by the likes of Roger B., Ted, Dart Smohen (I believe but am not sure) and also Olska whose posts I greatly admire. That thread was on a roll for a week or so and just died of after about 1700 views. I am pretty sure that if I bring it back today or tonight as I plan on doing, it will have a much longer extended run this time around. I can almost count of posts from Carmelo, Sweetness & Light, Blue Spirit, perhaps Purple Haze and other people who I now have contacts with which I did not have last October. Also, Gadfly, an extremely knowledgable poster was not posting in October but was off doing something else, and he is sure to chime back in. The subject of education, and how it was handled in Scientology by Hubbard is a pretty hot button for virtually everyone on the board. If nothing else, those 100 replies which were posted on the board back in October were so outstanding that they must be put back up again for further reading and study.
Lakey
 

hbeer

Patron with Honors
I know all about boring, believe me.

The discussion here, morphing from sex in the Sea Org and in Scilonland in general, over to sex in the WOG world and how "the game is played" from a guy's point of view ... it is all strictly a matter-of-fact discussion. I am past that, and object of my attention now is finding a way to relocate to the boondocks. My objective is my own fuel manufacture, my own chicken coop, my own greens via greenhouse growing, my own water supply, my own electricity, etc. Success is getting totally off of all the control grids. My dream house will be an inexpensively constructed structure that will probably look like a steel barn on the outside but the inside will be a little bit of heaven, constructed around greenhouse covered courtyard with exotic plants, wooden walk ways, riverbed smooth pebbles, a large Koi pond, pleasant scents from the plants, pleasant sounds from the babbling brook thru the covered courtyard area, no street noise, lots of friends over from time to time who would like to get away from city noise. To that end I already have a rural property but it needs lots of work.

Pete



Are you serious about that?

It was my dream for years. I'm nearly at the point of giving up. Should I?

Where is your property? What's the work that needs to be done?



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hbeer

Patron with Honors
Back in the early 70s, when I thought inflation was going to go galluping away, I got into "Mother Earth News". It was a mag. It probably still is. here is a link to it

http://www.motherearthnews.com/

This magazine, when I was reading it was all about do farming yourself. It should still be an amazing resource.



My husband bought a subscription of that for me. I loved it, but never really got to read it as I was the household's main cash cow, plus having all these spiritual ambitions.

Several years of it are still around. It's a treasure of good ideas.



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GoNuclear

Gold Meritorious Patron
The means to make it happen

Are you serious about that?

It was my dream for years. I'm nearly at the point of giving up. Should I?

Where is your property? What's the work that needs to be done?



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Heidrun,

I suspect that this is more doable here in the US than in Europe. It is still possible to purchase land here in rural areas for 1000/acre or less. My property is 6 acres and located approx. 80 miles south of St. Louis, Missouri.

If you are not bound by conventional thinking and limitations, it becomes far more achievable. For instance, think in terms of purchasing a used bulldozer or used bobcat and doing your own digging. Think in terms of hiring workers directly instead of a contractor. Think in terms of UNCONVENTIONAL construction techniques. Case in point ... I have heard of people purchasing used steel buildings on the cheap, taking them down, relocating them, having 8" of styrofoam insulation blown on the inside of the structure, and creating beautiful homes on the inside, every bit as nice and comfortable and modern as you would find in a mansion, only it doesn't look like a mansion from the outside. On the outside it looks like a used cattlebarn. Crazy perhaps, crazy like a fox, with virtually no heating and cooling costs and no outside drafts or noise getting in. Hay bail construction is another method. So is cob. Cob goes way back into the dark ages, houses going back seven hundred years are still in use in Europe made of cob. Yet another technique is to construct using all of the standard shipping containers that are available on the cheap, I have been told 600 dollars per unit not including transportation.

The main problem is financing. If you can come here to the US with $250k you can get the job done with lots left over on 50 acres or more.
Rural Missouri is beautiful, so is rural Arkansas. If you are serious you should PM me.

Pete
 
Heidrun,

I suspect that this is more doable here in the US than in Europe. It is still possible to purchase land here in rural areas for 1000/acre or less. My property is 6 acres and located approx. 80 miles south of St. Louis, Missouri.

If you are not bound by conventional thinking and limitations, it becomes far more achievable. For instance, think in terms of purchasing a used bulldozer or used bobcat and doing your own digging. Think in terms of hiring workers directly instead of a contractor. Think in terms of UNCONVENTIONAL construction techniques. Case in point ... I have heard of people purchasing used steel buildings on the cheap, taking them down, relocating them, having 8" of styrofoam insulation blown on the inside of the structure, and creating beautiful homes on the inside, every bit as nice and comfortable and modern as you would find in a mansion, only it doesn't look like a mansion from the outside. On the outside it looks like a used cattlebarn. Crazy perhaps, crazy like a fox, with virtually no heating and cooling costs and no outside drafts or noise getting in. Hay bail construction is another method. So is cob. Cob goes way back into the dark ages, houses going back seven hundred years are still in use in Europe made of cob. Yet another technique is to construct using all of the standard shipping containers that are available on the cheap, I have been told 600 dollars per unit not including transportation.

The main problem is financing. If you can come here to the US with $250k you can get the job done with lots left over on 50 acres or more.
Rural Missouri is beautiful, so is rural Arkansas. If you are serious you should PM me.

Pete


There are lots of ways to accomplish the myriad components.

New steel buildings are not that expensive, and they are like Tinkertoy or Erector Set in large form. All of the steel building companies will send you a free DVD of what it takes to assemble their buildings.

Prices vary immensely by region, but a 1940s or 50s International Harvester TD 6, TD 9, or TD 14 or Caterpillar D2 or D4 can be bought from $1000-$6000. Parts are still available. The tractors are simple and easy to repair. Not like today's breed of tractors with motherboards, etc.

A good toolbox filled with all the tools necessary could set you back $2K used. Lots of estate sales have tools.

Old disks (for pulling behind your tractor) for tilling the soil are cheap, and new blades are easily obtained.

If you're serious about self sufficiency, you'll need a hoist for lifting engines and stuff. A manual one should be pretty cheap.

Doing solar panel electric power is another $20K, but then electricity is free.

Having a good well is essential.

Using diesel motors that could run on bio diesel would be part of the self sufficiency thing. Making bio diesel is not that big a trick. A friend of mine, who lives in a typical suburban house in a typical suburb makes it in his garage. It doesn't even take up much room.

It never hurts to have a truck or two.

Growing crops that could be exchanged or sold for other valuable needs would be part of figuring out your niche. No matter how independent you are, no man is an island.

Sounds like a fun project.

I grew up on a farm. I was driving tractors when I was three. There isn't anything mechanical on a farm that I can't build, fix, or replace.

I can also kill a steer, a deer, a chicken, a pig etc. and then butcher them.. .. and I'm a vegetarian. And I can milk a cow, collect eggs, pick cots, cherries, pears, strawberries, corn, etc.

Anybody seriously thinking of this needs to know basic cause and effect, physics, geometry, electricity, plumbing, house and barn building, etc.

Mother Earth News is good for all of that.

Having a mentor is even better. I had my father.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzldLJcorbo

As Barbara Mandrell sings, "I Was Country When Country Wasn't Cool"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN50ZU6jVwM

Having a farm is a 24/7 job. Most farmers I know have huge spaces. They are OT. There is no room for snivelers.

My father had a good friend on the other side of the river from us. When he was 106 (not a typo), he had a stroke and was bedridden for six months and then he died. Up till then he planted and raised seventy acres of corn each year. Shot the wild boars that came to eat it. Kept his car, trucks, tractors, and his steam tractor running. He played chess and checkers daily. He was fully functioning on all eight cylinders. He was fully abreast of every thing.

Here you can see my dog with one of my toys. It is a fully operable steam tractor.
http://www.forum.exscn.net/album.php?albumid=14&pictureid=117


Just in case anyone wants to know, it is a very hard life. It is rewarding; all in all, I'd rather be skiing, laying on the beach, or petting a moray eel ninety feet below the ocean's surface. Been there, done that.
 
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hbeer

Patron with Honors
The main problem is financing. If you can come here to the US with $250k you can get the job done with lots left over on 50 acres or more.
Rural Missouri is beautiful, so is rural Arkansas. If you are serious you should PM me.

Pete



Ladies, gentlemen, I am starting two new students today and don't know when I can come back to this topic.

I certainly will; it's most interesting to me.

Have a good time!



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Pierrot

Patron with Honors
Mon ami Pierrot,
I remember dialoging with you about 3 or 4 months ago and commenting on your name Pierrot. My ex wife is French and played a tape of French childrens song's for our kids on our tape player in our 1986 minivan when the kids were growing up. "I just loved Claire de la Lune."

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Lakey

Hi Lakey,

yes, I remember we met before in this virtual world.

I know the melody you write about, maybe if I played it now for you on guitar it would too Jazzy with modern re-harmonizations :)

You wrote:

"I used to have a lot of wins dancing. First a couple of fast dances, then a break for some drinks and talking and then when they play a slow number and you dance, you get sort of a "free test drive" of what life would be like being on intimate terms with certain attractive ladies. Man, some of those slow dances could get pretty hot and heavy!!"

I know what you mean. I like to dance, for my own pleasure, but I don't use it to initiate contact with a woman. If she wants to dance I'd rather say "you go, so I can see how you move and if you'd be any good at belly dancing to impress me later on..." when it comes to slows and she's too intimate she gets a "cool down please, hands off the marchandise, I don't know yet if we can be even friends"

I know - that might not make sense to some :D

"I agree with you fully on the "rich" angle, I would also disqualify such a person. I like your comments on the age question because I am really getting up there now but I look perhaps 15 years younger than I am. Mentally and personality wise I am still at about 30, similar to Jack Benny."

;-)

"I am Mr.two left feet in my natural condition but after about 3 beers, 2 glasses of wine or two quick shots of Beefeater on the rocks, I am almost a natural. The transformation is amazingly quick and requires so little alcohol. I was raised drug free and my only drug history was trying pot 4 times. I actually liked it but got the same effect from a couple of beers so being the straight kind of guy which I am, I decided to not break the law and just use beers to loosen up."

Well, I don't drink alcohol to loosen up. Alcohol doesn't create any effect since the OT drug rundown, it's one bad side effect, nothing happens whatever the intake, just at some point the body would signal it wants to go to sleep. Alone. lol! Even though I love very good Red Wine.

So it's always natural, especially that I wouldn't like to have a relationship with a woman who has toxic habits, so no alcohol while dating. Rather green Tea, Sencha. If she looks in the direction of the bar or says "let's have a drink" I'd say "yes, you can offer me a drink, but don't expect any specail favours after that, I'm not that easy".

In dancing places it's a lot about eye contact. If one knows the body language very well speaking is not necessary. Women don't like guys clinging to them, it's better to leave them a lot of space. So I'd have short conversations, some laughs, then I'd say "sorry, but there is another woman that wants to talk with me, I don't want to keep her waiting" Then I go and talk with another one. If you do that well, shortly you'll have several women following you, initiating eye contact then looking away, and somehow ending up in your space. Like, I remember, there was that georgous woman a lot of guys were all around. We had some conversation before ending up with me saying "If you want to meet me again please don't wear those discount clothes, that would ruin my reputation" She was shocked, wearing Versace. Later on, while she was still surrounded by guys trying to initiate contact, she sees me sitting on a chair and escapes from the males surrounding her. She sits on my lap and asks "Pierrot, can I be one of your girlfriends?" - I just said "I'm not sure -I don't know if you know how to kiss well" you can guess the rest. There is one rule - don't do what all of the other guys do.

Dating is a lot of fun!

:eyeroll:
 

hbeer

Patron with Honors
Just in case anyone wants to know, it is a very hard life. It is rewarding; all in all, I'd rather be skiing, laying on the beach, or petting a moray eel ninety feet below the ocean's surface. Been there, done that.



I know how hard it is - I learned self support gardening from books and created several self support gardens.

But you know one thing - now please don't beat me, people -: LRH recommended in "Problems of Work" that everybody should have a second job which is very different from his main job. A bookkeeper should dig ditches, etc. For me, that is the garden.

For one person it's hard work. For two with a commercial farm, it's probably boring money making. But if there were, say, a freezone delivery center where each group member also does a farm job - on a small farm like Pete's 6 acres -, it could be fun, creative, healthy, and a life insurance too, just in case the economy gets a serious hiccup...



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Learn to dance, period!

THE MORAL OF THE STORY FOR MALES IS TO LEARN TO DO IRISH DANCING AND THEN JOIN AN IRISH DANCING CLUB.
Lakey

LOL! Up the Irish! :happydance:
One thing that would really help is for men to learn to dance, period...how to lead, how to follow, how to keep on the beat and stay in rhythm while in physical communication with your partner...it's all good! Just saying, guys...:thumbsup:

Lakey, you got to be a toy-boy! :D I'll bet you're making others jealous! :coolwink:
 
Hummm, seems familiar!

I know how hard it is - I learned self support gardening from books and created several self support gardens.

But you know one thing - now please don't beat me, people -: LRH recommended in "Problems of Work" that everybody should have a second job which is very different from his main job. A bookkeeper should dig ditches, etc. For me, that is the garden.

For one person it's hard work. For two with a commercial farm, it's probably boring money making. But if there were, say, a freezone delivery center where each group member also does a farm job - on a small farm like Pete's 6 acres -, it could be fun, creative, healthy, and a life insurance too, just in case the economy gets a serious hiccup...
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You realize folks, what we're talking about here is a good old-fashioned commune...baby boomer re-deux! :D I'm all for it, I'm a GREAT gardener, and cook! :happydance:
 
Whoops!

I know all about boring, believe me.

The discussion here, morphing from sex in the Sea Org and in Scilonland in general, over to sex in the WOG world and how "the game is played" from a guy's point of view ... it is all strictly a matter-of-fact discussion. I am past that, and object of my attention now is finding a way to relocate to the boondocks. My objective is my own fuel manufacture, my own chicken coop, my own greens via greenhouse growing, my own water supply, my own electricity, etc. Success is getting totally off of all the control grids. My dream house will be an inexpensively constructed structure that will probably look like a steel barn on the outside but the inside will be a little bit of heaven, constructed around greenhouse covered courtyard with exotic plants, wooden walk ways, riverbed smooth pebbles, a large Koi pond, pleasant scents from the plants, pleasant sounds from the babbling brook thru the covered courtyard area, no street noise, lots of friends over from time to time who would like to get away from city noise. To that end I already have a rural property but it needs lots of work.

Pete

Go Nuke, I finally get the meaning of your nickname! I thought it mean you were prone to violently angry outbursts... :duh: When really you are green and want to live off the grid :clap: :D Heh! Am I embarressed! :blush:
 

GoNuclear

Gold Meritorious Patron
my handle

Go Nuke, I finally get the meaning of your nickname! I thought it mean you were prone to violently angry outbursts... :duh: When really you are green and want to live off the grid :clap: :D Heh! Am I embarressed! :blush:

S&L,

My handle is derived from my time in the Navy. I went thru the Navy Nuclear Power school, through the prototype training, and served as a "nuke" on a nuclear powered submarine based in Groton CT. a "nuke" is someone who is nuclear power trained and serves in the engineering dept. of a nuclear powered naval vessil. The Navy nuclear power program produces a type of elite, a technical elite. There are probably fewer "nukes" in the Navy today than there are SEAL's, not sure if that was the case when I served, during the Nixon, Ford, and Carter years.

My time in Scientology coincided with my time as a "nuke" and ultimately contributed to the demise of my career. I only blame myself. Had I not been involved in Scientology, with that drain on my time and energy, I probably would have done a lot better and would have probably done my 20 and retired happily.

For better or worse, it was my involvement with Scientology that caused me to question virtually EVERYTHING, especially things like the income tax and the nature of the money system. I see the current money system, planet wide, as a time bomb of sorts, its collapse is inevitable. When that comes, the people who engineered it will act as if they were leading the movement to end that system all along, and will offer an alternative, which, of course, will be at least 10 times worse, far more intrusive and far more controlling. It will be based upon the monetization of carbon credits. I have expounded upon that in other threads, just go thru my posts. I believe that the agenda behind pushing the story of man made global warming is the creation of a new monetary system based upon the monetization of carbon credits. It would be an excellent idea to NOT be dependent upon societal infrastructure when that day comes.

I used to be involved politically, on what I considered to be the side of Liberty. I have come to the conclusion that 99.99% of political activism to restore Liberty is useless. About the only useful thing to do is to disengage yourself from the "system" and/or deal with it strictly on YOUR terms. To that end I advise all to go to http://www.thinkfree.ca click on the icon at the top that says "FREE MOVIES!" and view all of the videos, IN ORDER, starting with "Bursting Bubbles of Government Deception". That video covers a topic that will be totally foreign to you, more than likely. It is deceptively simple. If you saw it 10 times thru it would be time well spent.

Pete
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
sounds like a tech based no reach and withdraw!

Hi Lakey,

yes, I remember we met before in this virtual world.

I know the melody you write about, maybe if I played it now for you on guitar it would too Jazzy with modern re-harmonizations :)

You wrote:

"I used to have a lot of wins dancing. First a couple of fast dances, then a break for some drinks and talking and then when they play a slow number and you dance, you get sort of a "free test drive" of what life would be like being on intimate terms with certain attractive ladies. Man, some of those slow dances could get pretty hot and heavy!!"

I know what you mean. I like to dance, for my own pleasure, but I don't use it to initiate contact with a woman. If she wants to dance I'd rather say "you go, so I can see how you move and if you'd be any good at belly dancing to impress me later on..." when it comes to slows and she's too intimate she gets a "cool down please, hands off the marchandise, I don't know yet if we can be even friends"

I know - that might not make sense to some :D

"I agree with you fully on the "rich" angle, I would also disqualify such a person. I like your comments on the age question because I am really getting up there now but I look perhaps 15 years younger than I am. Mentally and personality wise I am still at about 30, similar to Jack Benny."

;-)

"I am Mr.two left feet in my natural condition but after about 3 beers, 2 glasses of wine or two quick shots of Beefeater on the rocks, I am almost a natural. The transformation is amazingly quick and requires so little alcohol. I was raised drug free and my only drug history was trying pot 4 times. I actually liked it but got the same effect from a couple of beers so being the straight kind of guy which I am, I decided to not break the law and just use beers to loosen up."

Well, I don't drink alcohol to loosen up. Alcohol doesn't create any effect since the OT drug rundown, it's one bad side effect, nothing happens whatever the intake, just at some point the body would signal it wants to go to sleep. Alone. lol! Even though I love very good Red Wine.

So it's always natural, especially that I wouldn't like to have a relationship with a woman who has toxic habits, so no alcohol while dating. Rather green Tea, Sencha. If she looks in the direction of the bar or says "let's have a drink" I'd say "yes, you can offer me a drink, but don't expect any specail favours after that, I'm not that easy".

In dancing places it's a lot about eye contact. If one knows the body language very well speaking is not necessary. Women don't like guys clinging to them, it's better to leave them a lot of space. So I'd have short conversations, some laughs, then I'd say "sorry, but there is another woman that wants to talk with me, I don't want to keep her waiting" Then I go and talk with another one. If you do that well, shortly you'll have several women following you, initiating eye contact then looking away, and somehow ending up in your space. Like, I remember, there was that georgous woman a lot of guys were all around. We had some conversation before ending up with me saying "If you want to meet me again please don't wear those discount clothes, that would ruin my reputation" She was shocked, wearing Versace. Later on, while she was still surrounded by guys trying to initiate contact, she sees me sitting on a chair and escapes from the males surrounding her. She sits on my lap and asks "Pierrot, can I be one of your girlfriends?" - I just said "I'm not sure -I don't know if you know how to kiss well" you can guess the rest. There is one rule - don't do what all of the other guys do.

Dating is a lot of fun!

:eyeroll:

Mon ami Pierrot - It sounds like a technique based on the tech of reach and withdraw with the man doing a lot of withdrawing. Yes, that makes an awful lot of sense. I can see it working and have seen it at work without fully realizing what tech the mail was using. That "Joe average" friend of my Son's was one of just two or three guys in an Irish Dance clug with say 9 girls. The numbers were in that ratio and this Joe average, real name, Patrick, was in great demand and withdrew from all the girls who were pursuing him. It had the effect you mentioned. It seems to me that very attractive women just hate seeing a man choose another woman over them and they fight and fight hard to get that man's attention and show him that they have more to offer than the other woman. There can be a "no holds barred" war when two or more very attractive women compete for the affections of one ordinary guy. I have seen this happen a lot, once or twice, I've had two girls both go after me but I was not knowingly using the withdraw tech but just happened to use portions of it by accident or happenstance. It seems to be that attractive women are so used to being hustled by almost every man they meet that they find it refreshing and challenging to pursue a man who is ignoring them. Sometimes they will pursue a man who is gay and then when they find that out, they stop the pursuit but if a man is straight and ignores them, that brings out tremendous competitiveness in the woman.

Thanks for pointing his tech out to me. As I say, I had witnessed it happening all the time without fully realizing what I was watching but now I now. I really appreciate the hatting and will read some of your references to learn even more.
Lakey
 

hbeer

Patron with Honors
I see the current money system, planet wide, as a time bomb of sorts, its collapse is inevitable. When that comes, the people who engineered it will act as if they were leading the movement to end that system all along, and will offer an alternative, which, of course, will be at least 10 times worse, far more intrusive and far more controlling. It will be based upon the monetization of carbon credits. I have expounded upon that in other threads, just go thru my posts. I believe that the agenda behind pushing the story of man made global warming is the creation of a new monetary system based upon the monetization of carbon credits. It would be an excellent idea to NOT be dependent upon societal infrastructure when that day comes.



It is already going into such a direction. Getting hold of a piece of land is nearly impossible here in Europe, if you don't inherit it from your parents.

Humans are the only animals who don't give their offspring a piece of land. Deer, mice, elephants just go ahead and use the land!

Here in my country, the rip-off of money for everything in shops and the bureaucracy is so extreme that I was not able to set aside any money for a land purchase, and as a software developer I certainly earn double or more of an average income.

There is the additional "game" of an envisioned 90% global population reduction which is being discussed in various places.



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Royal Prince Xenu

Trust the Psi Corps.
Too true.

Originally Posted by GoNuclear
Finding a soulmate is one thing, playing the game is another.


I never got to learn the "rules of the game".
 
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