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Shit! That really killed my F/N!

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Scientologists have this little hidden idea that they are supposed to always have an F/N or something is wrong that needs to be handled.

I finally realized that this little concept accounts for a lot of why they don't confront any of the painfully obvious truths about Scientology, especially the crazy new stuff that appears on the internet almost daily. True stuff. Devastating stuff.

That marvelous vignette from Mark Bunker's upcoming documentary, "KNOWLEDGE REPORT" is a perfect example.

Watch the plastered "uptone" faces and frozen "ARC" on the celebrities while they learn of criminal fair game operations or their beloved religious leader COB beating staff.

They just don't wanna have their F/N killed.

[video=youtube;qTzIRaBNQiQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTzIRaBNQiQ[/video]

There are so, so, so many things that Scientologists avoid so they can keep their winning, planetary-clearing F/N.

THINGS THAT KILL A SCIENTOLOGIST'S F/N!

Being ordered to a "mandatory briefing".

HOW THEY KEEP THEIR F/N: (thinking) "Wow, with so many briefings, my "K" will really soar and so my increased KRC will totally handle maxing out my credit cards."






 
THINGS THAT KILL A SCIENTOLOGIST'S F/N!

No toilet paper.

KR's written on them.

When someone sees them yawn.

Reading an LRH novel (but they mustn't think it or say it.)

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THINGS THAT KILL A SCIENTOLOGIST'S F/N!

Being sent to Ethics.

Especially when the out ethics sit is that they declared bankruptcy--because it is out-exchange and not per LRH's finance policies.

It kills their F/N because they know they will be doing O/Ws and one of the W's is that the "why" for their bankruptcy is that they did what the church's finance specialists (called reg's) instructed them to do with their money.
 

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THINGS THAT KILL A SCIENTOLOGIST'S F/N:

When an SP comes up to a them on the street and starts talking to them.

Especially when the SP is using 1.1 enemy line entheta like: "But why won't you talk to me Mom, I am your daughter?!
 

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That's a wonderful success story. Your next stop on the routing form is the registrar.
 

This is NOT OK !!!!

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Realizing your wife is not as happy as you were hoping she was going to be when she found out you put another $100,000.00 on the credit card!
 

Type4_PTS

Diamond Invictus SP
Watch the plastered "uptone" faces and frozen "ARC" on the celebrities while they learn of criminal fair game operations or their beloved religious leader COB beating staff.

They just don't wanna have their F/N killed.

The problem is that there is no LRH Policy or Tech (including in any of the TR's) that give permission for the Scientologist to discuss these allegations with an SP.
No drills which prepare them to ask the SP's to present hard evidence supporting their allegations. And if they DO get into real communication with the SP then per the scriptures THEY just committed a High Crime and can themselves be Declared SP. (So much for that "Communication is the Universal Solvent" thing) :omg:
 

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THINGS THAT KILL A SCN'S F/N...


The chronically suppressed cognition that no matter how much they do in or donate to Scientology, it will never be good enough.
 

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The problem is that there is no LRH Policy or Tech (including in any of the TR's) that give permission for the Scientologist to discuss these allegations with an SP.
No drills which prepare them to ask the SP's to present hard evidence supporting their allegations. And if they DO get into real communication with the SP then per the scriptures THEY just committed a High Crime and can themselves be Declared SP. (So much for that "Communication is the Universal Solvent" thing) :omg:

Any Scientologist who finds his or herself in a conversation with a person who expresses anything critical about Hubbard or Scientology, immediately exits "honest communication mode" and enters into "handling mode". They are TRAINED to do that. Thought (as in "careful consideration") ceases, and deeply-ingrained Scientology habits take over.

I think it would bo a good topic of dicsussion to look at all the many HABITS that develop through involvement with Scientology. These aren't physical habits, but "mental" habits. Automaticities. Again, Hubbard in some ways discusses well the notiion of "automaticities", but then he goes and INSTILLS many of them into Scientology participants. Hubbard is the guy who stands there and explains all about thieves and confidence scams, does it extremely well, and then steals from you and tricks you, WITHOUT YOU EVER REALIZING IT! Of course, you can't imagine that this could happen because he explained all so well to you in the first place!

That was something I had little liking for in Scientology. How so many Scientologists were unable to communicate about their own religion and subject. All they could do was "defend" or "handle" based on exact, often well-drilled, routines.

That is why I stopped talking to any Scientologist many years ago. Because most are INCAPABLE of sincere and honest conversation about Hubbard or Scientology. All they ever do is "try to handle the person" using whatever Scientology gimmickry and manipulation techniques are available. :puke2:
 
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There were many starting from the creepy pictures of Hubbard plastered all over the place, clouds of cigarette smoke and overflowing ashtrays throughout the building, not being able to discuss anything without it somehow coming back to Hubbard either perfecting it or outright inventing it, but the first incident I can specifically remember was when a supposed 'Clear' who spoke to me after I got the results back of Hubbard Cheesy Personality Test was not able to remember my name a few days later when I ran into him. That never left me skeptical until I finally packed it in and called it a day.
 

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The problem is that there is no LRH Policy or Tech (including in any of the TR's) that give permission for the Scientologist to discuss these allegations with an SP.
No drills which prepare them to ask the SP's to present hard evidence supporting their allegations. And if they DO get into real communication with the SP then per the scriptures THEY just committed a High Crime and can themselves be Declared SP. (So much for that "Communication is the Universal Solvent" thing) :omg:

That is so perfectly on point!

I happen to have personally met and spoken to those particular "celebrities" on a number of occasions over the years in different social settings. Watching them respond to a kind-hearted and intelligent man (WBM) asking them simple, direct questions about the most important subject in their lives (Scientology) quickly reveals something.

The reason they are flailing about so pitifully is that they are naive and uneducated children in adult bodies who simply lack any worldly knowledge, charm or sophistication.

The word "shallow" repeatedly comes to mind.

What normal adult is unable to have a simple conversation with another adult without resorting to bizarre non-sequiturs.

They are making it up as they go because they are afraid of not doing what a Scientologist is supposed to do.

The clownish reactions to Mark's questions is simply stunning.

One in particular I love it Suplee's prematurely answering the questions before he even knows what is being asked. That is pure Scientology, that is...TOTAL CERTAINTY WITH NO KNOWLEDGE.
 

Gadfly

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Things that really kill an F/N:

Having to even slightly confront ANYTHING that threatens the delusion that you have found and now personally possess 100% TOTAL TRUTH with Scientology.
 

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Any Scientologist who finds his or herself in a conversation with a person who expresses anything critical about Hubbard or Scientology, immediately exists "honest communication mode" and enters into "handling mode". They are TRAINED to do that. Thought (as in careful consideration) ceases, and habits take over.

That was something I had little liking for in Scientology. How so many Scientologists were unable to communicate about their own religion and subject. All they could do was "defend" or "handle" based on exact, often well-drilled, routines.

That is why I stopped talking to any Scientologist many years ago. Because most are UNCAPABLE of sincere and honest conversation about Hubbard or Scientology. All they ever do is "try to handle the person" using whatever Scientology gimmickry and manipulation techniques are available. :puke2:


Two passengers seated next to each other on an airplane...

WOG PASSENGER
I see you are reading a Scientology book there.
So, you believe in Scientology.
Can I ask you a question? Why do
Scientologists beat each other.

OT PASSENGER
Um....That's a generality. Where did you hear that
enemy line?

WOG PASSENGER
Well it's right here in the newspaper I
am reading. Look....
(shows St. Pete Times)
50 people were beaten.

OT PASSENGER
Um...all lies. That newspaper is a merchants of chaos.

WOG PASSENGER
But, it was your own spokesman Tommy
Davis that said it. Here look....

OT PASSENGER
Umm...I don't need to look. I know who you are and
what you are trying to do.

WOG PASSENGER
Wutttt? I am just curious to know. There are even
former high ranking members that said that your
leader Miscavich repeatedly beat staff.

OT PASSENGER
Um.....What are your crimes?

WOG PASSENGER
Wow, it even says right here that Scientologists
are required to ask that "what are your crimes?"
because it's a cult and Ron Hubbard ordered them to.
Wait...Are you joking?

OT PASSENGER
Umm..first of all Ron doesn't tell Scientologists what to do.
And no....I am not joking. Ron doesn't allow joking.
 

Type4_PTS

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They are making it up as they go because they are afraid of not doing what a Scientologist is supposed to do.

And they're afraid of not doing what a Scientologist is supposed to do because they're is a constant threat to losing their eternity. Make one slip, get into ARC with an "SP" and one can lose their eligibility for the OT Levels. :omg:

That constant fear to do what a scientologist is supposed to do makes for some wonderful mind control.

I doubt that Suplee never heard of Marty Rathbun or never heard the allegations against Miscavige. I'd like to see an expert on body language examine that video where he makes those claims.
 

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And they're afraid of not doing what a Scientologist is supposed to do because they're is a constant threat to losing their eternity. Make one slip, get into ARC with an "SP" and one can lose their eligibility for the OT Levels. :omg:

That constant fear to do what a scientologist is supposed to do makes for some wonderful mind control.

I doubt that Suplee never heard of Marty Rathbun or never heard the allegations against Miscavige. I'd like to see an expert on body language examine that video where he makes those claims.


Scn Celebrities are briefed to to within an inch of their life!

I personally know of Scn Celebs going up to INT to get their briefing on Rathbun and the COB beatings. Because they wanted to meet with me to share their "truth" (post briefing).

But to be fair to Ethan Suplee...

I went ahead and found a body language specialist to give expert testimony...

I have examined Mr. Suplee's video
and in my expert opinion...


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That guy's a fucking liar!
 

Type4_PTS

Diamond Invictus SP
Any Scientologist who finds his or herself in a conversation with a person who expresses anything critical about Hubbard or Scientology, immediately exists "honest communication mode" and enters into "handling mode". They are TRAINED to do that. Thought (as in careful consideration) ceases, and habits take over.

And I would think that this is a result of doing the TR's and other various drills over and over. One gets used to automatically responding in accordance with those drills so that you don't have to think. You just handle as the drills prepare one to do.
 

Gadfly

Crusader
Two passengers seated next to each other on an airplane...

WOG PASSENGER
I see you are reading a Scientology book there.
So, you believe in Scientology.
Can I ask you a question? Why do
Scientologists beat each other.

OT PASSENGER
Um....That's a generality. Where did you hear that
enemy line?

WOG PASSENGER
Well it's right here in the newspaper I
am reading. Look....
(shows St. Pete Times)
50 people were beaten.

OT PASSENGER
Um...all lies. That newspaper is a merchants of chaos.

WOG PASSENGER
But, it was your own spokesman Tommy
Davis that said it. Here look....

OT PASSENGER
Umm...I don't need to look. I know who you are and
what you are trying to do.

WOG PASSENGER
Wutttt? I am just curious to know. There are even
former high ranking members that said that your
leader Miscavich repeatedly beat staff.

OT PASSENGER
Um.....What are your crimes?

WOG PASSENGER
Wow, it even says right here that Scientologists
are required to ask that "what are your crimes?"
because it's a cult and Ron Hubbard ordered them to.
Wait...Are you joking?

OT PASSENGER
Umm..first of all Ron doesn't tell Scientologists what to do.
And no....I am not joking. Ron doesn't allow joking.

Scientology is that system of ideas that gets you to falsely imagine that you base all conclusions and opinions on "facts" and "observations", but when actually you have instead accepted and adopted a large range of ideas that function as fixed ideas (just as Hubbard explains), and these fixed ideas disable any Scientology participant from learning anything new or different. Now, while it is true that this happens in many areas of life, especially religion, it happens somewhat "naturally" in most areas, whereas with Scientology Hubbard really "figured it all out", systematized it, and brought the techniques of implanting fixed ideas to a near "science".

The Scientologist "doesn't need to look", because he "knows it all already", based on Hubbard's many claims, statements and assertions. This cracked me up when I was involved in Scientology. I studied and learned about fixed ideas, and Hubbard was on the money with his discussion of fixed ideas. And, then I would notice that many Scientologists displayed the exact same phenomena Hubbard described with fixed ideas. It was disheartening to me at first, because I imagined that maybe the people and organization might actually align with the best of the ideas - but they didn't.

A key part of this is that a person with "fixed ideas" has the opinion that he or she "knows it all already", and therefore doesn't have "to look", "obtain evidence" or "confirm the validity of any contradictions to what he or she BELIEVES". That is all true. People with fixed ideas are incapable of learning, because they have no need to look for "new information", because "I already understand this fully". "Certainty" in Scientology is often a delusion of "knowingness". If one truly grasps the nature of ANY "certainty", one comes to notice that "certainties" are often just like "beliefs", "understandings", and "opinions". They often have NOTHING to do with actual events, situations and observable anythings. People can believe, be certain about, or understand ANY IDIOCY as "being true". Now, you can be certain of your OWN observations, at least to some degree. What I am talking about involves the realm of THINKINGNESS, where IDEAS and CONCEPTS come to replace observations and even an ability or willingness to observe.

But then I would look around, not thinking, but LOOKING, and notice that many Scientologists operated in exactly the SAME WAY. Hubbard surely did have an excellent grasp of the realm of "fixed ideas", and he arranged his subject and organization so that the participants would become engrained with HIS FIXED IDEAS.

Scientology indoctrination involves a carefully-planned gradient of accepting various ideas. Courses, course checksheets, twinning, study tech, word clearing, no verbal data, practicals, drilling, no asking of ANY questions, only referring to the materials, qual correction, cramming, ethics, justice and more ALL act to get some participant to totally accept a large bundle of IDEAS. In truth, many of these ideas are NOT verifiable, and many do not actually align with honest observations of ACTUAL events and situations.

But, once the participant ACCEPTS these ideas, then this person "sees through", "experiences through", and "judges all things" in accordance with the yardstick of his or her Scientology FIXED IDEAS. The subject of "core beliefs" has more than a little to do with this. Hubbard's indoctrination changes and instills NEW "core beliefs". This involves thought control and belief manipulation at its best.

An amazing part of Hubbard's trickery is that he convinces Scn participants that at no point do they suffer from simple "belief", and that they actually "know" with "certainty". What they actually do is "believe with strong conviction that they know instead of believe". The are tricked into becoming happily deluded.

Like in the movie "Matrix" when Morpheus tells Neo, "don't think you can, know you can".

A Scientologist does not have to LOOK, to confirm anything, because Hubbard already told him or her exactly the way things REALLY ARE - so they don't need to look.

I always took the part of Scientology that stated, and I paraphrase, "Man's highest ability is to look, and know, based on your OWN perception and ability to spot is-nesses". I saw that far too much of the subject, and almost all of the practice and organization violated THAT maxim.
 
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