slightly illegitimate perhaps

Annie Bunny

"Take me to church" by Hozier. Perfect.
some of you have seen my thread Peter Greene's children; but for those who haven't I am one of his sons; and I hope to find and connect with whatever brothers and sisters by him I have. I am told he ran the Phoenix and Atlanta missions between 1977 and 1982. He was also in overall charge of the 'work' in South Africa around 1960. His debriefing from 1982 spoke at length about power struggles, which seem to have caused him and his wife Doran to be 'declared' (what exactly is that?) and all references to him after that until the death of both Peter and Doran in 1989 used the term 'squirrel' which does not take much intelligence to decipher. He began his relationship with LRH around the time of my birth, 1951 in London, England. I still live there. May I also give public thanks to all of you who have written to me, for such a warm welcome. I am deeply moved, especially as I expected everyone to be paranoid and suspicious. Instead you have been simply lovely.
These types of stories are what keep me out for good. My heart goes out to you. I hope you find your siblings. The disconnection is the best weapon the church has to keep control of its members .Imagine that a church that "indirectly" prohibits its members to Stay in communication with Anyone who has anything "bad" to say about the church. No whistleblowers allowed or you loose your Family. Very convenient.
 

Annie Bunny

"Take me to church" by Hozier. Perfect.
I don't know if you have heard of Janis Gillham Grady but she worked closely with Hubbard for many years in the 1970s and she has written two books about it. She probably knew your father because she knew anyone who was of any importance in scientology at that time.

She has a website with a contact address: https://www.commodoresmessenger.com/
Wow. I am definitely getting the books.
 
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CHRISTOPHER FAIRNINGTON

Patron with Honors
These types of stories are what keep me out for good. My heart goes out to you. I hope you find your siblings. The disconnection is the best weapon the church has to keep control of its members .Imagine that a church that "indirectly" prohibits its members to Stay in communication with Anyone who has anything "bad" to say about the church. No whistleblowers allowed or you loose your Family. Very convenient.
Bless you Annie, I love you for ever. Another sad fact has been my mother's silent determination to discourage me from looking for the Greene's, or even asking about Peter. I feel that all the time still. I did find and facebook messaged a brother in the USA and a sister three miles from here but after several letters I gave up, their stony silences speak loud; the good news is my Niece Nina, in Hawaii, who found me here. We speak by telephone and e mail. Janis and I exchanged a few e mails and her books are reasonably priced, Amazon, Abe Books etc. If you want to contact me , any of you, my details are in my profile
 

This is NOT OK !!!!

Gold Meritorious Patron
Bless you Annie, I love you for ever. Another sad fact has been my mother's silent determination to discourage me from looking for the Greene's, or even asking about Peter. I feel that all the time still. I did find and facebook messaged a brother in the USA and a sister three miles from here but after several letters I gave up, their stony silences speak loud; the good news is my Niece Nina, in Hawaii, who found me here. We speak by telephone and e mail. Janis and I exchanged a few e mails and her books are reasonably priced, Amazon, Abe Books etc. If you want to contact me , any of you, my details are in my profile
Is the silence of these discovered relatives because they are (still?) Scientologist? But you were never in, so I wondering......
 

CHRISTOPHER FAIRNINGTON

Patron with Honors
Is the silence of these discovered relatives because they are (still?) Scientologist? But you were never in, so I wondering......
I do not know, they may have been suspicious, it's the web, who am I really? etc. eventually I messaged them both with an angry 'we probably did have the same father; but your attitude tells me I don't want you in my life------something like that. Silence continued
my niece Nina put me in touch with a step brother, Paul, half brother to my eldest half brother Martin, who was Nina's father. He became a Rabbi in the southern USA, and died radically embittered. The step brother told me Peter had crippled his wife with a blow-----both my step brother and I must have spent the rest of that night recovering from his anger and I have not spoken to him again. Nina told me later the step brother's father was violent to my brother too. Our family carries masses of heavy 'karma' Nina met Peter shortly before he died of lung cancer in 89, and she told me wanted to contact me. My mother would have done all she could to prevent it. Nina's mother met my mother once but I was never told. And so it goes on. On the other hand, we have a deeply spiritual streak and tendencies towards genius i.q.s My mother and her parents is/were Quakers. Quite a spiritual Cocktail. Knowing I am a quarter jewish puts another major piece of my life's jigsaw in place. I never knew until i learned about Martin having been a Rabbi, why I have felt jewish all my life.
The brother i messaged is Peter Christopher Greene, in the States, and the sister is Frances, very near Kilburn underground station about three miles from my place, i.e. north central London.
And thanks for remaining interested, you are helping me to keep trying
 

CHRISTOPHER FAIRNINGTON

Patron with Honors
um, this may ned its own thread; but is Scientology 'plugged in' to any other religion or spiritual grouping? (kosher to satanists and anything in between?
 

CHRISTOPHER FAIRNINGTON

Patron with Honors
Yes; I wasn't thinking of 'kosher'. but Hubbard was said to have got many of his ideas from Aleister Crowley, moderately good minor poet and associate of W B Yeats in the Golden Dawn, infamous black magician, heroin addict, long lived, humourist (his hymn to Mary has an obscenity running down the initial letters of the verses)--incidentally another disciple of Crowley's, a well known film maker, raped me in '69, --and my Father was very into things now associated with 'new age'--and ways of making money on line nowadays seem to be along lines that some magicians have long used. Cults usually masquerade as religions. Hitler believed himself to be a Catholic and the Mafia probably do too. I was only musing, but the Greene's have loads of physical and emotional afflictions, meaning baaad characters and all the hallmarks of a 'family curse'. It is amazing that Nina and I have been able to be good people.
 

Little David

Gold Meritorious Patron
I'm paraphrasing, but someone here once wrote that Scientology is a criminal conspiracy, operating as a cult and masquerading as a religion. The only thing Scientology is "plugged into" are mafia-like attorneys.
Richard Behar the author of the 1991 TIME magazine cover story on Scientology wrote in that article:

"The Church of Scientology, started by science-fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard to "clear" people of unhappiness, portrays itself as a religion. In reality the church is a hugely profitable global racket that survives by intimidating members and critics in a Mafia-like manner."

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The Thriving Cult of Greed and Power

Ruined lives. Lost fortunes. Federal crimes. Scientology poses as a religion but really is a ruthless global scam -- and aiming for the mainstream
by Richard Behar

https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Fishman/time-behar.html
 
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