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So now Mormons are a cult? Oh.....Rick Perry!

DagwoodGum

Squirreling Dervish
Onanism is not buttfucking or blowjobs. But doing the latter two to "ep" will result in onanism. Seed spilled outside the vagina, on purpose.
Seed spilled outside the vagina, on purpose[/QUOTE] This should be added to KSW as the proper definition of "on purpose" then forevermore.
So then to be an "on purpose" little Ron droid I would have had to be entirely off target with regard to all vaginal deposits in all my pseudo sexual endeavors as long being that it didn't involve homosexuality. Doesn't seem that that would leave one a lot of options other than bestiality though that may have fit into the Crowley/Demonology thing, plus there would be no unfortunate offspring to need looking after in the aftermath.... Why didn't Ron mention "onanism" if he supposedly covered everything for us so that we'd not have to think for ourselves?

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DagwoodGum

Squirreling Dervish
exact quote: "umm, no,"

Mona was always somewhat dry (not for lack of desire) in the first hole, and we used the second hole an awful lot. They are close together.

It was hole #2 that I was in, and that was fine with both of us.
Heearr inn tthe dape sauth "Mona" is pro'naounced "Moaner", hence ma spellin when we caint spake a klain vaowole aven iffin arr lifin dependin uppon ate.
 
Heearr inn tthe dape sauth "Mona" is pro'naounced "Moaner", hence ma spellin when we caint spake a klain vaowole aven iffin arr lifin dependin uppon ate.

The guy , whose apartment bedroom butted up to hers, complained, good nature fly, about the squeaking bed springs on her side of the wall.
 

Claire Swazey

Spokeshole, fence sitter
So one of the methods of birth control- condoms- or even just finishing elsewhere (less than effective for obvious biological reasons) is verboten in the Catholic religion because of the sin of onanism.

But they don't allow other forms, either. Kiliing a fertilized egg- is a no no. Raising hormone levels - also a no no.

I think it's more about control of the bodies of their parishioners which is a leftover from back when there were theocracies.
 
Getting back to the source, Mormons are nice people (mostly), it's just that their church demands all of their time because they lack a clergy. Check out www.exmormon.org for all the gory details, including the 1979-82 Tokyo South baptism scam where missionaries (and missionaries are teenagers in Mormonism) used fake English lessons to con people into being dunked in cold pools of water, thus joining the LDS church.

[By the way, the "10 million Mormons" is sort of a fraud; there are huge numbers of inactives and the Mormon church keeps people on the rolls until they are one-hundred. Some ex-Mormons think there are only 4 or 5 million Mormons active in the United States.]
 

Claire Swazey

Spokeshole, fence sitter
They are lovely people. I've met some. They do seem to have a very strict religion AND a strict church to go with it. (See Jim Beverley thread- churches and religions go together but aren't the same things).

The thing is this: if a person asks for permission to do things- even if those things are matters he doesn't need anyone's permission to accomplish or execute- the people whom he's asking will always grant it, instead of saying "oh, you don't need to ask permission." IOW, give others power, and they'll take it.

The problem with LDS is a problem that's common to cults - there's invasion in members' lives.

The reason groups like that are considered cults and not mainstream churches is that mainstream churches (or elder churches, if you like) have mostly become far more user friendly. There are exceptions like Orthodox Jews, some Protestant sects, radical Islam, yes, but in the main, organized religion has moved forward greatly in the past couple hundred years.

I think LDS has, too, from what I've read, though they are still strict. Groups like the FLDS sects are truly cults. They are different. They are a step back into fundamentalism and outlawed practices and some of them have been linked to murder and other crimes.
 
... The reason groups like that are considered cults and not mainstream churches is that mainstream churches (or elder churches, if you like) have mostly become far more user friendly. ...

No, more like they've become far more irrelevant to the lives of their members. When the membership is less inclined to pay attention little is gained by attempting to be intrusive. Influence correlates with perception of relevance. The influence of organized religion has been declining in the west as other social factors have increased in importance thus being seen to dilute the relevance of churches in the lives of their parishioners. Those with whom church life retains its greatest influence are those for whom other social factors have the least influence.

Think of it as The Law of Conservation of Human Attention: there is only so much attention an individual has, the more devoted to other pursuits the less there is available for hierarchical religion.

We live in an age of multiple distractions.


Mark A. Baker
 
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