Good twin
Floater
And one of these days before too long, GT has promised she's gonna sit on my lap!
Great posting here, GT and others too!
Mike Horton (aka EP)
You ole dog! Ya' got a memory like an elephant.
(luv ya back <3 )
And one of these days before too long, GT has promised she's gonna sit on my lap!
Great posting here, GT and others too!
Mike Horton (aka EP)
I'm ready to answer this Claire.
You ole dog! Ya' got a memory like an elephant.
(luv ya back <3 )
Also...this may not be easy, Good Twin, but it's gotta be easier than being run down and betrayed and constantly harassed, haranged and beggared by the Church of Scientology.
I was only "in" for 6 months or so but for me was people had no lives, acted like middle school supervision and the events and musters with the Hitler-esque lockstep was not my scene.
I was accustomed to people who were looking to build a resume and move up through life and career goals. The people that I worked with, most good yet life-tired human beings, had no life, no life interests and never have done anything with their lives. Most were recovering addicts or just so beaten down that *this* was their only salvation.
My final straw was the Easter Sunday Massacre where I was asked, after BEGGING to attend Holy Services that "this is your church and religion". Never one raised to hold my tongue and being a brash 22 year old I said something to the effect of "you'll see me after I celebrate Easter and Christ's raising from the dead". Which to the Ethics, Personnel and ED wasn't music to the ears.
I got there late and I got yelled at but just ignored them and out of view flipped them the bird. I got asked to go out and hand out, in front of services in front of St. Patrick's Cathedral and another church to flier as the parishioners entered and exited as well as the legendary Easter Bonnet Parade on 5th Avenue.
First, I'm not apt to getting arrested or harassed by security or members and really what FAMILY on a planned event (the Bonnets are legendary for their style and design) will want to come to the Morgue to take a "Personality Test" and be kept hostage while they had Easter Dinner or Family Dinner reservations or catered meals awaiting them at home.
I laughed, started going around the blocks and going through Saks or Lord & Taylor in case if I were being followed watch, (which I always suspected b/c they couldn't indoctrinate me), threw away the materials, had a lovely (but quick Easter Dinner with friends) and returned w/ maybe two dozen pamphlets that I "didn't give away".
Less than two weeks later I was THANKFULLY fired. I usually win worst job contests. lol
I was raised in Scn and was there for about 20 years. For all of those 20 years I had a very dirty little secret that I was terrified of anyone finding out. It was the fact that NOTHING I had done in Scn had helped me. I have taken dozens of courses and received countless hours of auditing, but I knew none of it had really made a difference aside from the occasional temporary feeling of brightness after auditing.
During those years I did spend a couple of years with family who werent really in or out and I was inactive in the church during that time. I realized that I felt better, and my life went a lot smoother. I was actually happy for the first time when I wasn't onlines.
I would have stayed in regardless though, if only due to my family and friends and not wanting to lose them. A lot of really incredibly wonderful and intelligent people seem to be attracted to Scn. for some reason, and to this day I haven't made friends that I have loved more or felt closer to.
I was on staff for about five years. I was badly mistreated as a staff member. I was a victim of some sexual abuse that the church attacked ME for when I KR'd it. Still I would have stayed for my family an friends.
What broke the camel's back for me was seeing how many others were being mistreated and my refusal to be a part of that. I was not going to allow them to punish me for refusing to mistreat others. I wouldn't do to other people what they had been doing to me for all those years.
I left somewhat loudly. I harbored some hopes that those friends of mine would snap out of it when I left. They were good, intelligent people, they had to see it too right? I am still baffled that they haven't. I am still waiting for them.
But that's what it was for me.
But how many people left because they saw that the tech was either not benefitting them at all or only to a very limited extent- certainly not what was advertised? I'm really wondering.
That's what it has to be.
He doesn't think it works and therefore he alters it for the public, alters it even more for the staff and completely abandons it for the S.O. members.
Battleplans? Condition application? Standard application of green on white? Forget it - pound, threaten and enforce "too-gruesome" that's davey mcwheezy's style isn't it? Stay up all night, don't go home until you "get the product". Sleep under your desk, punch, slap, choke S.O. members?
I am convinced: david miscavaige DOES NOT THINK SCIENTOLOGY WORKS PERIOD.
He is running it as a simple means to the end and for no other reason. He is the high-school dropout holding the reigns on a multi-billion dollar scheme funneling money into his pockets, nothing more.
Finally Free,
I don't have an inside track to what David Miscavige thinks. But your interpretation seems to fit what I've heard about him and about the way the church is run these days.
Works for me as well or better than many other interpretations I've heard.
TG1
Wow, a lot of this tread applies to me, but the first step to me being out was the tedious and repetative trips to the EO every time I spent any time with my family simply because they were no longer "on-lines" these family members were not declared or anything - just inactive - but that was enough!
SS