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South Africa

Discussion in 'Other Locations' started by DartSmohen, Feb 20, 2008.

  1. DartSmohen

    DartSmohen Silver Meritorious Patron

    Firstly, I noticed that there were no reports of any protests in S. Africa.Does anyone have any info on this?

    Secondly, I found the following text from a friend regarding government action in S. Africa. Has this surfaced on the board before?

    Is there any substance to this report?

    I would appreciate hearing more about this.

    Thanks

    DS

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    The details of what you are about to read can be verified by the DSA JBG, Ryan Hogarth and is as result of a briefing just held at the Joburg Org.

    Read this e-mail very, very carefully, and then follow the instructions contained in it, and then forward this e-mail to every Scientologist in your address book.

    I realise that many duplicates will be received by many people, but that's okay - this is important enough to duplicate many times over.

    Briefing:

    The Department of Health has gazetted ( to publish, announce, or list in an official government journal) new legislation that makes all forms of counselling or "spiritual treatment and help" illegal unless practised by a registered clinical psychologist.

    This includes "the use of any psychological methods or practice aimed at aiding persons or groups or persons in the adjustment of personality, emotional or behavioural problems or at the promotion of positive personality change, growth and development. It also includes "the exercising of control over prescribed questionnaires or test or prescribed techniques, apparatus or instruments for the determination of intellectual abilities, aptitude, personality make-up..........."

    In a nutshell, if this law is passed, the use of OCA tests, auditing, the Purification Rundown, the e-meter and any other "spiritual treatment"
    methods and practices delivered by Scientology will become illegal.

    Also gazetted is legislation which prevents and outlaws anyone who is not a registered health care provider from "advising any person on his or her physical state...... and administering, selling or prescribing for such person any medicine or treatment.

    This affects anyone who is selling or administering vitamins (which includes our Purif delivery lines, and naturally, Narconon). Please read the two attachments (Government Notice R968 and R969) - this will give you the full data.

    The legislation was gazetted on October 19th - quietly sneaked in - and objections expire November the 19th - THIS MONDAY COMING!

    WE HAVE TO ACT NOW - OUR FREEDOM IS THREATENED

    In the briefing given by the CO OSA today, he called on ALL SCIENTOLOGISTS to get behind this action - "let's give them bloody noses, and lets make them sit up and take notice". I cannot express enough how important it is that EVERY SCIENTOLOGIST acts now. This is your bridge, your future and your LIFE!

    WE NEED THOUSANDS OF LETTERS BY TOMORROW MORNING 11.30AM
    WE NEED THOUSANDS OF SIGNATURES ON OUR PETITION
    WE NEED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TO COME TO THE
    PROTEST MARCH IN PRETORIA ON MONDAY MORNING.
    WE NEED EVERY SCIENTOLOGIST TO BE ON COURSE AND ON THE BASICS, AND WE NEED TO BOOM THE ORG!!

    RIGHT NOW, NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOUR COMMITMENT TO THIS CYCLE !!!!

    THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO:
    1. Read this e-mail a couple of times over so that you have got it.
    2. Read the Government Gazette attachments.
    3. Read the instructions for your objection letter, then type up your letter, sign it and fax it back to the number provided.
    4. Read the Petition instructions, print out the Petition, get it signed by as many people you can (including non Scientologists).
    5. Read the Protest March instructions, print them out and clear your calendar for Monday morning.
    6. Forward this e-mail to as many people as you can and tell them to do them same.
    7. Reply to this email stating what you have done and confirming your presence at the Protest March on Monday."
     
  2. Tanstaafl

    Tanstaafl Crusader

    DS, Colleen posted this in November but there wasn't any follow-up IIRC.
     
  3. Colleen K. Peltomaa

    Colleen K. Peltomaa Silver Meritorious Patron

    I believe the situation was overstated, another memo went out, and the protest was canceled.
     
  4. DartSmohen

    DartSmohen Silver Meritorious Patron

    I wonder if they heard that Anon was looming on the horizon. :unsure:

    Of course, the recent comments on another thread about DM and his crowd decamping to Africa is interesting.

    Judging by the way the Nazis behaved after WW2, is Africa becoming the new S. America ? :whistling:
     
  5. Leon

    Leon Gold Meritorious Patron

    Was a post somewhere yesterday to say they'd bought Kayalami Castle to makee into an AO. You can google onto Kayalami castle and have a look at it.

    I find it hard to believe. I'm in contact with guys who have been waiting for years to get the auditing they paid for and that the Org is unable to deliver.

    Or maybe I should believe it. Per DM's reasoning if there are no auditors nor preclears then the obvious thing to do is invest in fancy buildings.
     
  6. Thalkirst

    Thalkirst Patron with Honors

    The Kyalami purchase is true, DM himself announced on the 2008 Birthday event.

    However, I saw a post on OCMB stating that it will be DM's HQ, instead of Int Base.
     
  7. Ladybird

    Ladybird Silver Meritorious Patron

    I did some googling around about the Kyalami Castle in South Africa. The Castle itself was buildt in 1990 by an eccentric architect as a private home. It is not a real castle. It was later converted to a "Boutique Hotel" that has 24 guest rooms. Doesn't seem like much room for a flood of scientology customers! There are no quarters for the staff that would be needed to service the castle, DM and his entourage, and the customers. Incidentally, Michael Jackson tried to buy it a few years ago, when he was under seige for pedophilia at Neverland ranch in CA. It is all show and no substance, just like scientology.

    It is located in the richest suburb of Johannesburg, about 20 miles from the airport. The area has a very active preservation committee that seems to be quite adamantly opposed to any developement of the area that would not enhance the gentile "horse country" atmosphere. Building permits would be hard to come by. http://www.thepropertymag.co.za/pag...y/Articles/NW-A-good-track-record-Kyalami.asp

    Nearby, within a mile of the "castle" down bucolic winding country roads, there is an international race track, a huge gambling casino (Montecasino), golfcourses, all manner of entertainments for the wealthy and ironically, a huge prison. I wonder if DM will have to look at that prison every day from his own private "Bulgravia"? Or even better, I hope he will be looking up the hill at his pretend castle from his cell in Lonehill and Leeukop Prison!


    http://www.religionnewsblog.com/20942/scientology-kyalami-castle
     
  8. Colleen K. Peltomaa

    Colleen K. Peltomaa Silver Meritorious Patron

    I just emailed them and asked them if that was true.
    God, I better get busy!
     
  9. Colleen K. Peltomaa

    Colleen K. Peltomaa Silver Meritorious Patron

    Here is the link to the Kyalami Country Club, and I wonder if they know about their new neighbors?

    Kyalami Country Club
     
  10. Colleen K. Peltomaa

    Colleen K. Peltomaa Silver Meritorious Patron

    Contents of my email:

    Gentlemen,

    There is a news report stating that the Church of Scientology has purchased the Kayalami Castle. Is this true? Oh, my, this is going to really change the neighborhood. Nothing but bad news follows on the heels of this church, and thousands are up in protest about the criminal and immoral practices of this church.

    Recent radio interview with ex-member: click here

    My guess is that the leadership of the church is feeling the legal and media heat and looking for an escape retreat. With their multi-billions I am sure they can buy a small country if they wish.

    Does Johannesburg really need another cult?

    Sincerely,
     
  11. Colleen K. Peltomaa

    Colleen K. Peltomaa Silver Meritorious Patron

  12. DartSmohen

    DartSmohen Silver Meritorious Patron

    With all around him unravelling and stats slumping, I wonder if the little fellow is getting ready to flee to his new hidey-hole. Never mind, as the saying goes; You can run, but you can't hide.

    Unless, of course, he chats with his co-dwarf, TC, and sees if TC can give him any tips. After all, he was in the middle of making a film about Hitler and his cohorts. Quite a few of them managed to slip away.

    Just a thought......:whistling: :whistling: :eyeroll:
     
  13. DartSmohen

    DartSmohen Silver Meritorious Patron

    Now that DM has a new bolt hole in S. Africa, I wonder if he will be enrolloing in the Robert Mugabe Charm School ? :omg:
     
  14. Leon

    Leon Gold Meritorious Patron

    Mugabe the Babe.

    He sure knows how to tell people to harden the fuck up.
     
  15. ARC

    ARC Patron

    Does anyone know anything about this court case?

    http://www.saflii.org/userfiles/fil...a/WC-Cape Town High Court/28 october 2009.doc

    Is it an ex-member lawsuit, is Scientology neglecting to pay its bills, or is it something else?
     
  16. skollie

    skollie Silver Meritorious Patron

    I have been watching and searching for more news on this but have come up empty. Nothing mentioned in the Cape Town newspapers.
     
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2009
  17. ARC

    ARC Patron

    The case may be from 2007, as noted in the WWP thread, but continuing now.