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Sorry to fully disagree here. First of all, I have formal education in the scientific method, having a scientific background in one top European University, which doesn´t matter which is it. Way BEFORE Scn... I´m also versed in epistemology, and philosophy of science, Kuhn, Hume, Locke, Bacon, Foucalt, and others, just to name a few, having read the SOURCES. Have you read any of those Mike??
Well Paul, you seemed to have started a rather heated debate here. We are a very diverse group here on ESMB with a broad spectrum of views. This is one of the reasons that I love this ‘place’ so much – it is a great opportunity to learn and see things from different perspectives. And, given the way that Scientology has affected people, mostly in a harmful way, it is inevitable that sometimes the discussion get a little heated and the odd insult or personal remark is thrown into the mix. I don’t like to see this, but the reality is that ESMB is far better in this respect than most other forums that deal with Scientology.
Do you mind if I ask what Sciences you studied and at what university? I was most interested in Science and Technology at school and studied Electrical Engineering at Portsmouth University. I’m not really that interested in philosophical discussions, but like to know how things work and what makes the world tick.
I used to be very interested in ‘alternative theories’ but as I studied them, I found that the proponents often had huge gaps in their logic, cherry-picked which evidence they used and didn’t stand up very well to rigorous examination. So, my attitude now is pretty much “Show me the evidence!” whenever I see someone proposing a radically different theory.
The alleged takeover of the CoS by the IRS is something that I looked at in the past, but found not to hold much water, especially in light of subsequent revelations made by Larry Brennan, Mary Rathbun and others.
Third, one can also follow on intuition, or gut-feeling and THEN look for the facts. The more I live, the more I do it. It gets me the best results many times, I´m getting. When I disociated the gut from the head, many problems happened, such as not seeing the OBVIOUS in Scn. (Ignosis, it´s called in another thread). So I recomend an approach of heart-head (reciprocal feedback between these 2, if you get what I mean), and not the traditional western approach of JUST head, who has lead the western man to the monsters created by Western society, one more of them being the Scn. structure.
The trouble with the approach that you mentioned, is that it is all too easy to decide what you want to prove before you get there, only looking for evidence that supports this agenda and ignoring everything that does not agree with it.
This is clearly not proper application of the Scientific Method. Evidence gathering has to come first and conclusions drawn from the available data. And, rigorous examination of the conclusions is very much a part of this. Anyone searching for the truth should welcome a thorough review and be prepared to modify their views if a new perspective is gained.
I don’t think it is fair to blame Scientology on western society. It is pretty much the product of a rather disturbed individual, albeit assisted by some other disturbed / evil-intentioned individuals.
3. I make my point again: It´s the only symbol, together with the RTC symbol surrounded by a fire, (another occult tradition) that was NOT defined by LRH or is not in any tech or admin dictionary with it´s meaning. It´s one of the most expensive facilities, created by the CoS, and it is kind of striking that out of all the symbology existing that one was picked. Besides, if in their inner logic, "OTs" are supposed to come back some day and recover the data, why use a symbol that NO Scientologist knows or can recognize?
This is not actually true. The CoS produced a magazine about 15 years ago, explaining what the CST did (or at least purportedly did), showing some of the titanium capsules. These were marked with the double ring and diamond logo. Unfortunately I don’t have a copy of this magazine, but was shown a copy by the DSA at St Hill. In addition, Lars Najbjerg, a CoS supporter, has a webpage dedicated to the CST and the logo can clearly be seen here: http://freezone.najbjerg.info/church-of-spiritual-technology
However, having said that, it is probably true that most CoS members don’t know much about the CST or it’s logo, possibly demonstrating the famous Scientology selective memory.