Jquepublic
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Beware that which you mock, he may be closer than you think . . .
I'm defecting at the first sign of DC-8s in the sky.
Steve Hall's post on closed Indy Facebook group
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I'm defecting at the first sign of DC-8s in the sky.
Panda Termint
Cabal Of One
Well if you are an OSA sock puppet I hope you're doing a good job keeping everyone uplines fully briefed on which zombie meme I've posted in my news feed and the detailed activities of my cats.
I don't think Panda was being tricksy. I took it as him saying only an idiot would think you're an OSA bot.
It is indeed the correct perspective. There are people who think that you (Infinite) are an OSA-run minion but those people are, in fact, idiots! You are mistaken to think that my commentary about it means something tricksy.
On the subject of what an OSAbot may write on the Internet, the "Xenu test" is completely old-hat and invalid, what you need to check for these days is will the person engage and discuss the ACTUAL crimes of DM/CofS. Will he/she admit in writing to their actuality and the fact that these crimes are ongoing. That is the Panda thumbnail-test, for what it's worth.
As far as I'm concerned, you've passed that test with flying colours.
(... but, then again, so have Rinder and Rathbun! LOL)
Mark A. Baker
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Ahhh! But what if he/she is under Deep Cover!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjelahKv_Lc
Mark A. Baker
Smilla
Ordinary Human
Ahhh! But what if he/she is under Deep Cover!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjelahKv_Lc
Mark A. Baker
Great book!
Infinite
Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller
. . . so everybody say, its WOG side okay, blam blam blam
Panda Termint
Cabal Of One
Yes, it is one of my favourites too.
Mark, there are few if any real inhibitions placed on the deeply undercover infiltrator, it's all grist to the mill based on Hubbard's recommended reading of "The Spy and His Masters" and various GO issues etc.
Despite that, OSA-bots do have an innate sense of self-preservation and know full-well that committing something to writing which might later be used by authorities against the CofS is a bad move. They'll duck and weave rather than say straight out that there is an ongoing criminal conspiracy at the highest levels of the CofS. If they were to say such things it opens the door to the inevitable CofS onslaught, the ultimate crime for any OSA-bot is "endangering scientology".
The hallmark of an OSA-bot or minion, IMO, is they usually talk in broad, ineffective generalities about the crimes and only discuss things already disclosed. They spend most of their time attacking and directing attention to perceived "enemies of the CofS".
My take on it is not a definitive one, it's just how I generally see the brushstrokes.
Mark A. Baker
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And mine is to see things through a filter of a deep & darkly ironic sense of humor.
Nor, am I much bothered about who may be OSA. Anyone establishing and continuing an affiliation with that group has already demonstrated their own foolishness. Far be it for me to add to their troubles.
With regard to TTSS; it is a good book and I especially enjoyed Oldman's characterization in the recent film. Frankly, the whole film was done exceedingly well. Excellent casting, script, and production values.
Mark A. Baker
Smilla
Ordinary Human
And mine is to see things through a filter of a deep & darkly ironic sense of humor.
Nor, am I much bothered about who may be OSA. Anyone establishing and continuing an affiliation with that group has already demonstrated their own foolishness. Far be it for me to add to their troubles.
With regard to TTSS; it is a good book and I especially enjoyed Oldman's characterization in the recent film. Frankly, the whole film was done exceedingly well. Excellent casting, script, and production values.
Mark A. Baker
[video=youtube;iZgTRl3lj78]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZgTRl3lj78[/video]
Mark A. Baker
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Thanks for posting. I'd heard about this, but have never seen it.
Warning to others: don't start the video if you aren't prepared to watch it. It's absolutely engrossing.
Mark A. Baker
HoraciotheOT8
Patron with Honors
Perfect Warning.
Horacio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iZgTRl3lj78
[video=youtube;iZgTRl3lj78]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZgTRl3lj78[/video]
Smilla
Ordinary Human
Mark A. Baker
Sponsor
Hope you enjoy it
I did. But with Guiness that was a foregone conclusion. He's superb. Watching that actually made me appreciate Oldman's performance even more. Guiness is a tough act to follow. O's take on the character was equally engaging. That says a great deal about him as an actor.
Of course I've been a fan since I first saw the film "Rosencrantz & Guildenstern ..."; brilliant play, wonderful film.
Mark A. Baker
Smilla
Ordinary Human
I've always liked Alec Guiness. I've not seen Oldman's film, but I'll make a point of watching it.
phenomanon
Canyon
o. OK. Me, too.
Lermanet_com
Gold Meritorious Patron
Acts of God:
On board the Apollo. I prayed to an unknown GOD to get me off of that ship, I was only 11 years old and outside of Scientology it was all I knew. Now whether someone could claim that was an act of god that I was able to leave the ship, or whether it was an act by Hana Eltringham/Whitfield that enabled me to leave the ship, I am more inclined to believe the latter. And, believe me she was a firm believer in Hubbard at that time, though I think whether she believed it or not, she did still retain some semblance of right from wrong. Which is why she still speaks out to this day, regardless of her title on Religious Freedom Watch, Scientology's public relations controlas an unreliable witness.
It was the same Hana who told me that she was walking down a corridor on the ship with Hubbard and heard Hubbard say: "It's all just hypnosis"
1974 or so at the Hollywood Inn.
The GO were giving meter checks to everyone. When it was my turn the closet he had been using was locked and he didnt have the key, so I bent a paper clip a bit and picked the lock, so we could get on with it. It was a old worn loose tumbler. i got lucky and picked it in a few seconds. Big mistake, they were now sure I was a secret agent.
I was locked up in that wire recieving room cage for the hotel, The Hollywood Inn.
I started screaming bloody murder... you know, yelled out to the people I knew in the office down there. One of them I knew in the 60's at FCDC. Natalie Fisher.
"Is this what you joined to save the world???"
"Why am I in prison here?"
they let me out after a couple hours.
Not being able to escape changes you
Sharone Stainforth
Silver Meritorious Patron
Arnie,
What can I say, as a young kid, I just succumbed, the hold was bad enough, I did not want to go in the chain locker. I had already seen children younger than me in there. Yeah, not being able to escape does change you, it makes you madder than hell, and right now I am madder than hell.
You know!
Smilla
Ordinary Human
Those crimes of Hubbard's are glossed over by his apologists and followers, but the good he did (Was there any?) can't excuse them. He was a criminal first and foremost. The pity is that he evaded justice.
Sharone Stainforth
Silver Meritorious Patron
The Gandhi and Mother Theresa pictures made me think:
Human failings are universal - we've all got enough to keep us going.
Gandhi and Mother Theresa included.
For example, Gandhi was often quite spiteful and cold towards his wife.
Human failings don't diminish the good that a person does, but the good does somewhat excuse any petty failings
Ghandi could be quite cold towards his wife, but only when she thought she was better than them, that was when she did not want to clean the latrines.
Like myself, I will never expect anyone to do a job that I am not willing to do myself.
Smilla
Ordinary Human
Two rules I try to live by:
1. Never think you're too good to do something that needs to be done.
2. Be a friend to the friendless.
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