Susan Meister - Death and Cover-up On The High Seas

[TG1]

It is hard to question what we "know" because we have believed it for so long. We remember the memories, not the events.

 

[Commander Birdsong]

Thanks Sharone for your comment. What really nags me is if it was suicide, why the cover up?

well, no matter what it was, there was an untimely corpse. they didn't have to have any idea of what they might be covering up to start covering it up

wassamatta you? do you need more paranoia of your own to start understanding the world you live in?

 

[Commander Birdsong]

Some pigs are smarter than others. You were a smarter pig than I.

you are a pretty bright pig, face

you've long been one of my favorite people on this board

i could have easily gotten to the apollo from fcdc if i'd set out for it but there was no way it interested me...

 

[GreyWolf]

I have been in private comm with another person who was also on the Apollo at the time of Susan Meister's death and it appears that I may be mistaken in my belief that the gun belonged to Amos Jessup and that the death was by suicide.

Both of these points were told to me at the time on the ship and I accepted them at face value. It is not certain that I am wrong about them, but it may be.

Based on the actual physical evidence, it could not have been suicide.

 

[DonkeyOT]

I met Susan Meister in early 1971 in San Francisco. I did not know her well but her boy friend ("2D") was a good friend of mine and still is today. He is long departed from the cofs and scn.

After her death, the GO (B1?) contacted him, asking provocative questions, in an effort to dead-agent Susan and make her look unstable or promiscuous in her life before going to "Flag". Sickening. All they were interested in was distancing themselves from her.

 

[Freeminds]

The Dreck, er sorry: Tech promotes "word-clearing" as a (very condescending) method of understanding the meaning of words... but it seems no Hubbard apologist has ever managed to word-clear "duty of care."

 

[Enthetan]

Urq pretty much spent his entire time on the Apollo (with the exception of brief forays to the Flag Bureaux area and Course Room in the Lower Tween Decks and Holds) entirely in the comparatively comfy, roomy and posh confines of the Prom Deck, A Deck and B Deck with his own Cabin amd private Office.

As I have written here on ESMB, those Decks were the "World Apart" that the CommodeDoor, Mary Sue and the Children, and "Inner Circle" lived and worked in.

Not only did El Ron sign reams of stuff Hisself never looked at, Hisself invariably ignored the the information about and noticing the visually obvious deplorable conditions for a majority of the Crew. For a short while, I suppose one could fined it "challanging" and the frenetic and Spartan enviornment as a "Character Building" opportunity, but, after months and years of it it was withering and, to some, mind bending and "Soul cracking", IMHO.

Face

Hubbard spent several years as a naval officer, without absorbing the first rule of being an officer: The officer is totally responsible for everything that happens involving the people and area under his command. Period.

An officer is responsible for maintaining awareness of everything and everyone in his area of responsibility. "I didn't know" is not an allowed excuse. In fact, it is an admission of being unfit for command.

 

[Moosejewels]

Chapter 24
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Rob

http://nomoreliesscn.blogspot.com/2012/12/susan-meister-death-and-cover-up-on.html

Thanks for posting (reposting) this Greywolf. This type of information needs to remain readily available. Even with what I know from my experiences in Scilonland, it's still disgusting to see to what levels they can actually descend.
They respect no-one.

 

[AnonyMary]

I met Susan Meister in early 1971 in San Francisco. I did not know her well but her boy friend ("2D") was a good friend of mine and still is today. He is long departed from the cofs and scn.

After her death, the GO (B1?) contacted him, asking provocative questions, in an effort to dead-agent Susan and make her look unstable or promiscuous in her life before going to "Flag". Sickening. All they were interested in was distancing themselves from her.

Thanks. Glad he left.

 

[Moosejewels]

The Dreck, er sorry: Tech promotes "word-clearing" as a (very condescending) method of understanding the meaning of words... but it seems no Hubbard apologist has ever managed to word-clear "duty of care."

Just reading "duty of care" nauseates me. :wink2:

 

[Moosejewels]

I met Susan Meister in early 1971 in San Francisco. I did not know her well but her boy friend ("2D") was a good friend of mine and still is today. He is long departed from the cofs and scn.

" . . . . . All they were interested in was distancing themselves from her. . . . ."

Kind of like throwing staff and even your wife to the wolves after they're busted doing your dirty work.

 

[BunnySkull]

Because of the cult messing with things I don't believe there was a check for other DNA or anything along those lines, the 'investigation' was a sham.
@?

Just a note, I know it seems ubiquitous today but DNA was not in wide use for crime forensics until the mid and late 90's. I think some of it's first uses in a crime scene investigation was in the late 80's and it was in it's infancy, expensive and samples needed were big, fresh and only a fraction of the info we can get now from it was obtainable then.

So when Meister died there was no such thing as swabbing for DNA. At best blood samples could be taken, but the info gleaned from it is limited. Pattern study of blood spatter would prob be the most useful for info.

Since her death occurred in a foreign port - even w/o the cults interference you could expect a lousy investigation, if you could even call it that. The cult really didn't have much work to do to cover its ass - it's own paranoia provided most of the motivation, not authorities. I'm sure their biggest worry was Susan's father causing a stink in the press back home.

 

[GoNuclear]

Susan Meister's death was tragic, but not entirely unforeseeable. You have a boat-load of people experimenting with altering their mental processes (with the best of intentions, or at least for personal reasons) led by a charismatic, mentally ill hypnotist and criminal. All of them are kept in close proximity, and shut away from the real, outside world. Their leader distils into them his own paranoia, and they believe him. Into this toxic atmosphere of distrust, and away from the rule of law (Hubbard really loved the sense of power that came from being captain of a ship in international waters)... complete with regular overboardings, the chain locker, and a brutal RPF... add an uncontrolled firearm.

The really despicable part, though, the Scientological part: what happened after Susan Meister died (or, was killed). Scientology was inherently bad long before the Lisa McPherson manslaughter.

AFAIK, the sea ogres aboard the orginal 3 vessils were NOT toating guns. There was only one man aboard who DID collect guns and have ready access to them. That would have been the HubTurd himself. The HubTurd may have very well shot her. Why? Just to see if he could and get away with it, or, perhaps she was someone that the HubTurd wanted to shtup and she turned him down due to HubTurd Halitosis. Or perhaps she got past the HubTurd Halitosis, but the poor HubTurd had a little limp embarrassment. After all ... he may have had loads of pinks and greys, but no access to the blue pill, being that this was before the days of instant "Schwing!" courtesy of Viagra.

Pete