Kha Khan
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Interesting and important tech comment from Marty's blog:
Scientology auditing levels are supposed to be separate and discrete. Each typically has a cognition / end phenomenon (an "Oh, I get it!" Like, "I mocked up my reactive mind!") and a specific ability gained (e.g., "ability to communicate freely with anyone about anything," "return of self-determinism"; see grade chart at bottom of the post).
A pre-clear or pre-OT is NOT supposed to stop at the middle of a level. An auditor who abandoned a PC or pre-OT during the middle of a level would be in big trouble. A person who, without just cause, prevented a PC or pre-OT from completing a level would be in big trouble.
Further, nobody (including the PC or pre-OT) would expect a PC or pre-OT who failed to do all the processes of a level and complete the level to obtain the cognition / end phenomenon and ability gained for that level. It would be impossible. Such a person would be, in Scientology terms, an "incomplete product." Or, worse, an "overt product."
Here we have evidence that DM decided that the people at the very top of the auditing bridge should receive only a half, fatally defective level that could not possibly work. That DM was deliberately creating "incomplete products" or "overt products."
If Scientologists who actually care about the Tech learn about this and believe it, it will drive more of them out of the Church of Scientology.
On the other hand, this may be bad news for the Anons who not only want to bring down the Church of Scientology and (perhaps) in addition eradicate the religion of Scientology as it is currently practiced, but also want to eradicate the religion, philosophy and ideology of Scientology from the face of the earth (which, of course, isn't going to happen anyway). The above revelation will give Independent Scienologists, Freezoners, and other defenders of the Tech yet another excuse for why the Tech does not work. Their reasoning will be, "No wonder our OT8s are not bright and shiny and look so bad! DM caused them to receive incomplete auditing! DM was deliberately creating overt products! Obviously, when these people receive any necessary repair auditing and the full and complete OT8 they will be true OT8 products! Yeah!"
WWP Thread: [Marty]: Techy II, OT VIII Is Defective (aka Techy II, The Return of the Tech Post)
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If Scientologists who actually care about the Tech learn about this and believe it, it will be major. A huge "overt" and major slap in the face.Virgil Samms // June 9, 2010 at 2:32 am | Reply
Splog and Tom. It wasn’t as innocuous as that.
I was the Mission I/C of the original MV – when OT VIII was released. Snr C/S Int, Jeff Walker, told me, two days before we opened the OT VIII courseroom, that DM and Ray decided to only deliver the 1st half of OT VIII. I asked Jeff why. He said: “For money, what else?” He said the other half of OT VIII will be OT IX.
I went and asked Ray, who was IG Tech at the time, if this were true. He got a little missed withholdy and asked me where I got my info. I wouldn’t tell him and he got pissed at me. He figured it out.
The next thing I knew Jeff confronted me and called me a rat. I told him I didn’t tell Ray, but he was still pissed and we almost came to blows. But I calmed Jeff down. I told him we cannot deliver just half of fucking OT VIII and that it was a cuttative. He said plainly to me and as sensibly as he could – “Nothing we’re going to do about it.”
I couldn’t tell you if DM decided to include the 2nd half after the MV, but during it, I was feeling unsure of what I was doing and who I was hanging with. After that, I had a M/WH from every OT VIII I ever met. What an overt I was involved in.
So there. I let the cat out. Enjoy it.
ML Tom
Scientology auditing levels are supposed to be separate and discrete. Each typically has a cognition / end phenomenon (an "Oh, I get it!" Like, "I mocked up my reactive mind!") and a specific ability gained (e.g., "ability to communicate freely with anyone about anything," "return of self-determinism"; see grade chart at bottom of the post).
A pre-clear or pre-OT is NOT supposed to stop at the middle of a level. An auditor who abandoned a PC or pre-OT during the middle of a level would be in big trouble. A person who, without just cause, prevented a PC or pre-OT from completing a level would be in big trouble.
Further, nobody (including the PC or pre-OT) would expect a PC or pre-OT who failed to do all the processes of a level and complete the level to obtain the cognition / end phenomenon and ability gained for that level. It would be impossible. Such a person would be, in Scientology terms, an "incomplete product." Or, worse, an "overt product."
Here we have evidence that DM decided that the people at the very top of the auditing bridge should receive only a half, fatally defective level that could not possibly work. That DM was deliberately creating "incomplete products" or "overt products."
If Scientologists who actually care about the Tech learn about this and believe it, it will drive more of them out of the Church of Scientology.
On the other hand, this may be bad news for the Anons who not only want to bring down the Church of Scientology and (perhaps) in addition eradicate the religion of Scientology as it is currently practiced, but also want to eradicate the religion, philosophy and ideology of Scientology from the face of the earth (which, of course, isn't going to happen anyway). The above revelation will give Independent Scienologists, Freezoners, and other defenders of the Tech yet another excuse for why the Tech does not work. Their reasoning will be, "No wonder our OT8s are not bright and shiny and look so bad! DM caused them to receive incomplete auditing! DM was deliberately creating overt products! Obviously, when these people receive any necessary repair auditing and the full and complete OT8 they will be true OT8 products! Yeah!"
WWP Thread: [Marty]: Techy II, OT VIII Is Defective (aka Techy II, The Return of the Tech Post)
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