Telepathy = Remote Feeling Not Remote Thought

[Dulloldfart]

A big thing that I had to get done that I was freaking out on turned out to be not so big.

Let me see if I understand what we are doing:

1. We'll have two people in a room next to their computers.
2. One of these people will flip a coin or draw a card - something random - that will determine what to tell the "sender" to feel and transmit to all the "receivers" who are sitting next to their computers watching an internet clock.
3. At the agreed upon time, the "sender" will do the thing written on the randomly selected card and send the feeling out to the "receivers". The sender's assistant will write down what the sender sent, and pm that to the administrator.
4. The receivers will then write down what they received and send a PM - which is date-stamped - to the administrator who collects them and tabulates what he got. This will be repeated a number of times.
5. The result will be tabulated and compared to random chance, and from that we will determine if telepathy exists.

Is that the basic structure of the test as we have it right now?

More or less. I simplified it to the sender being alone and tossing a coin a second before the 00:00 time. On the dot the sender starts to strongly feel or alternatively remain calm, whatever the coin toss dictates. Do this for ten seconds maybe. The remote receivers note down their impressions in the first few seconds, either a "read" or a "null". Then twiddle their thumbs for the rest of the minute while the sender is recovering.

At 01:00 the sender executes the next random command as dictated by the coin toss a second beforehand. The receivers note a read or no-read as they perceive.

After 20 tests, 20 minutes total, the sender sends what he did to the umpire(s), and the receivers send their results to the umpire(s) too. Once all the results are in, it all gets posted and everyone can ooh and ahh and argue about how (in)significant it all is.

Paul

 

[Dulloldfart]

Oh, am I to be #3, then? (if not, then count me as #4!).

Ready to start....

Great!

Me
TP
GT
dchoice
Alanzo
WO

The sequence doesn't mean anything.

Paul

 

[Alanzo]

More or less. I simplified it to the sender being alone and tossing a coin a second before the 00:00 time. On the dot the sender starts to strongly feel or alternatively remain calm, whatever the coin toss dictates. Do this for ten seconds maybe. The remote receivers note down their impressions in the first few seconds, either a "read" or a "null". Then twiddle their thumbs for the rest of the minute while the sender is recovering.

At 01:00 the sender executes the next random command as dictated by the coin toss a second beforehand. The receivers note a read or no-read as they perceive.

After 20 tests, 20 minutes total, the sender sends what he did to the umpire(s), and the receivers send their results to the umpire(s) too. Once all the results are in, it all gets posted and everyone can ooh and ahh and argue about how (in)significant it all is.

Paul

So the test answer for each is simply "read" or "null".

It isn't the feeling that the sender is sending at all?

Do the receivers know the range of possible feelings the sender may send?

 

[Wisened One]

More or less. I simplified it to the sender being alone and tossing a coin a second before the 00:00 time. On the dot the sender starts to strongly feel or alternatively remain calm, whatever the coin toss dictates. Do this for ten seconds maybe. The remote receivers note down their impressions in the first few seconds, either a "read" or a "null". Then twiddle their thumbs for the rest of the minute while the sender is recovering.

At 01:00 the sender executes the next random command as dictated by the coin toss a second beforehand. The receivers note a read or no-read as they perceive.

After 20 tests, 20 minutes total, the sender sends what he did to the umpire(s), and the receivers send their results to the umpire(s) too. Once all the results are in, it all gets posted and everyone can ooh and ahh and argue about how (in)significant it all is.

Paul

K, so when does this start? And are you assigning us twins or do we pick our twin or what?

 

[Dulloldfart]

So the test answer for each is simply "read" or "null".

It isn't the feeling that the sender is sending at all?

Do the receivers know the range of possible feelings the sender may send?

No, for simplicity's sake it's either "read" or "no-read" and that's it. By "read" is meant any strong feeling.

I haven't narrowed it down yet as I don't have what I consider to be a good method of generating somewhat-standardised strong feelings.

Paul

 

[Dulloldfart]

K, so when does this start? And are you assigning us twins or do we pick our twin or what?

No twins needed; read the thread.

Time not fixed yet. For one thing I haven't worked out the point in my post just now to Alanzo.

Paul

 

[Alanzo]

No, for simplicity's sake it's either "read" or "no-read" and that's it. By "read" is meant any strong feeling.

I haven't narrowed it down yet as I don't have what I consider to be a good method of generating somewhat-standardised strong feelings.

Paul

All right. I get it.

So 20 reads from 5 people (so far) is only 100.

That isn't going to be enough to tell anything, is it?

 

[Dulloldfart]

All right. I get it.

So 20 reads from 5 people (so far) is only 100.

That isn't going to be enough to tell anything, is it?

No.

Unless someone scores 19/20 or something.

Paul

 

[Alanzo]

No.

Unless someone scores 19/20 or something.

Paul

So it looks like we're not going to settle the question of human telepathy on ESMB in the next few days.

Damn.

OK - so what time would the test be?

I'm on Chicago time, you're on something like London time - when is it going to be best for everyone to do this?

I can be up at 6:30am Chicago time, and stay up as late as 11:00pm. Any other time would make this test completely unscientific for me.

 

[Panda Termint]

No, for simplicity's sake it's either "read" or "no-read" and that's it. By "read" is meant any strong feeling.

I haven't narrowed it down yet as I don't have what I consider to be a good method of generating somewhat-standardised strong feelings.

Paul

Paul, the best way I know of doing this is to use symbology/allegory on the part of the "sender". If you look to the left in front of your face you'll see a "picture/allegory" I just placed there representing happiness. Tell me what you see.

 

[Alanzo]

Paul, the best way I know of doing this is to use symbology/allegory on the part of the "sender". If you look to the left in front of your face you'll see a "picture/allegory" I just placed there representing happiness. Tell me what you see.

I see

 

[Panda Termint]

I sent it to Paul. It's not a smiley face symbol.

 

[Alanzo]

I sent it to Paul. It's not a smiley face symbol.

Paul can't see it. He's in the bathroom.

Don't ask.

 

[Panda Termint]

That's OK, it'll remain there until he sees it.
Then it will as-is, sort of like a Mission Impossible tape.

 

[Dulloldfart]

That's OK, it'll remain there until he sees it.
Then it will as-is, sort of like a Mission Impossible tape.

Hot stuff. Why don't you be the sender then if you can do fancy things like that?

I get the idea of something candy-pink colour, the same as the font colour in your signature, dunno what, but that could easily be projection.

Paul

 

[Panda Termint]

Hot stuff. Why don't you be the sender then if you can do fancy things like that?

I get the idea of something candy-pink colour, the same as the font colour in your signature, dunno what, but that could easily be projection.

Paul

That's OK Paul, you have the background colour correct but the actual allegory is:
2.55am: A Happy dancing child. Clapping hands and jumping for joy.
I'll take it down in 1 minute.

 

[Zinjifar]

hmm Pink and representing happiness.

Danger Will Robinson


Zinj

 

[Dulloldfart]

So it looks like we're not going to settle the question of human telepathy on ESMB in the next few days.

Damn.

OK - so what time would the test be?

I'm on Chicago time, you're on something like London time - when is it going to be best for everyone to do this?

I can be up at 6:30am Chicago time, and stay up as late as 11:00pm. Any other time would make this test completely unscientific for me.

Let's see when people are available. I'll do it based on Los Angeles time.

Me (UK: 10:00am - 1:00am) = 2:00am - 5:00pm Los Angeles time (PST)
Alanzo (Chicago: 06:30-23:00) = 4:30am - 9:00pm PST
TP
GT
dchoice
WO

Paul

 

[Wisened One]

Let's see when people are available. I'll do it based on Los Angeles time.

Me (UK: 10:00am - 1:00am) = 2:00am - 5:00pm Los Angeles time (PST)
Alanzo (Chicago: 06:30-23:00) = 4:30am - 9:00pm PST
TP
GT
dchoice
WO (I'm Central Time, and I can do this after 7 pm up till 11 pm my time on weeknights).

Paul

I've added my time zone info and preferences.

 

[Dulloldfart]

I've added my time zone info and preferences.

Thank you.

I think I have a workable solution here. Rather than a multiple choice of two, I can do a multiple choice of five, in a relatively standardised manner. I can just mock up the emotions, with VOLUME. All those hours of Mood Drills will come in useful after all.

1. Death/apathy/useless, round about 0.0

2. Grief, a huge sense of loss, either the ridge or the flow round about 0.5

3. Hate/anger/hostility, like 1.4-1.9, maybe a bit of 2.0

4. Interest, mild to strong (it's hard to do "mild interest" with great volume!)

5. Serenity, or as close as I can get to it.

Then with 100 options per person, it's easier to see if the result is above chance.

Paul