The Angry Gay Pope Strikes again! june 8 2010

[Dulloldfart]

That briefing in post #83 was a joke, but it might not be so far from the reality for her. It must be terrifying. You have to see it from their viewpoint. The potential for things to go wrong (from their viewpoint) is HUGE.

Pope is a big, scary-looking (since he acts so psycho) guy. You gotta love the way they send a *woman* to stand next to him. Isn't the idea to stick cameras in people's faces to intimidate them? Doesn't seem to work too well with Pope, though. The "tech" came from David Gaiman, if I remember it right, back in the late 60s. The idea is to reverse the flow on reporters, who supposedly crumble at the reverse flow.

Paul

 

[skollie]

I think one can see what you all are talking about by watching a Sparrow video and a AGP video. Sparrow really keeps himself up to date on $cn news, relates it to Staff and Public, but I have never seen or heard him become harrassing to those he is talking to.

Which message do you think is heard and possibly remember?

Love & Light,
Aunt Pat

AGP is way too ruthless and could certainly learn quite a bit by watching sparrow's videos.

 

[Infinite]

You gotta love the way they send a *woman* to stand next to him.

This point has come up a few times . . . can someone please tell me: is a woman somehow less able than a man?

 

[Dulloldfart]

This point has come up a few times . . . can someone please tell me: is a woman somehow less able than a man?

Not in the movies, or the Sea Org, but in real life public perception in the US is that one generally sends at least one big man out to confront a big psycho man.

Paul

 

[Patricia Curtis]

Respect and decency.

Respect and decency.

I'm in.

 

[Nicole]

This point has come up a few times . . . can someone please tell me: is a woman somehow less able than a man?

I am a woman. A woman isn't less able than a man.

But if you see that video and that shouting, crazy man and you see that disturbed, quiet woman, what do you thing?

I think the viewer gets the emotion to protect her. On the video does it seems like "Oh, that poor woman needs help!"

Of course she needs help. But help to come out of Scientology and not to get protect from them who want to bring her out of the cult.

AGPs way is wrong and bad publicity. That is my opinion.

 

[SchwimmelPuckel]

Well, the scilons are sending out a woman precisely because they know AGP will be too ridiculing and confrontational.. They can even count on him to publish the video himself.. Nuts!

I wish that AGP could realize how much more effective it would be if he cut down a bit on it.. Be a little more 'freindly' in fact.. We're not out to harrass any scientologist personally after all.

 

[Nicole]

Well, the scilons are sending out a woman precisely because they know AGP will be too ridiculing and confrontational..

Those were my thoughts, I was not able to express myself.

Thanks!

 

[mate]

You now have only seven days left to get your submission in.

You have done yours? Thank you for doing it

You haven’t done yours? Let me ask you some questions.

Do you feel that family disconnection tears a family apart?

Are you aware that disconnection occurs in some religions?

Do you feel that the proposed amendment could handle this?

Are you in support of the amendment?

Good! Now, put your answers together in a few sentences and Voila! You have your submission. So send it NOW and I mean NOW.

David.

 

[Infinite]

Did someone mention Sparrow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xof9pBJvR4I

 

[Antagone]

That briefing in post #83 was a joke, but it might not be so far from the reality for her. It must be terrifying. You have to see it from their viewpoint. The potential for things to go wrong (from their viewpoint) is HUGE.

Pope is a big, scary-looking (since he acts so psycho) guy. You gotta love the way they send a *woman* to stand next to him. Isn't the idea to stick cameras in people's faces to intimidate them? Doesn't seem to work too well with Pope, though. The "tech" came from David Gaiman, if I remember it right, back in the late 60s. The idea is to reverse the flow on reporters, who supposedly crumble at the reverse flow.

Paul

Well then maybe it'll start sinking into her head that if the organisation she's working for is so great then why are they putting her in a potentially dangerous position.

 

[Dulloldfart]

Well then maybe it'll start sinking into her head that if the organisation she's working for is so great then why are they putting her in a potentially dangerous position.

I wasn't trying to defend the insanities and illogics. I was trying to explain her demeanour as being in line with the circumstances. In other words, situational factors and not dispositional ones were most likely affecting her in those minutes on camera.

Paul

 

[Smurf]

He is out of control and kicked of WWP , but trolling he does best. I observed the woman, she has Autism imo

I don't pay much attention to AGP's histrionics anymore (though I found this video funny). Several critics have contacted me to comment on AGP's accusations that I'm a "paid Scientology agent" and that I steered protesters from a Scientology event taking place downtown last month (which Tory later said she confirmed had taken place).

"yankonthis: how do you know that smurf is being paid of by the scientologists

AGP: We suspect he is because he was bad off financially in 2009 (weren't we all?) Recently he told the group to hold the monthly raid at the HGB Bldg. (boring been there location). Apparently there was a Sci event at a downtown hotel that Torey Magoo was told about. He insisted they protest in Hwd where it was quiet. This and other actions make us wonder if Smurf is a double agent. Gossip online about me as dereased 90% since I stopped talking to him."

AGP's accusations about me only started after I chose to disassociate from him which occurred around the time he was banned from both ESMB & WWP. I also spoke to his attorney Graham Berry about it. AGP, most SoCal anons and the folks at OSA are fully aware I was on disability in 2009, so I question his motives for DA'ing me with comments like I was "bad off in 2009."

Also, contrary to what the folks at RFW have posted. I am not the leader of Los Angeles Anonymous and don't dictate where anons can & cannot protest. I guess I am guilty for not having the sufficient OT powerz to have known that an unpublicized Dianetics event was happening downtown when we were protesting at the HGB. Also, Tory learned of the downtown event several days after the HGB protest not before as AGP alludes to in his accusations. I also do not schedule when & where anons protest. You might remember that AGP, in all his piss & vinegar, has accused Anonymous of being a cult, too.

His unfounded, angry accusations speak for themselves. His reasons for making videos of his solo protests are self-evident.

 

[The Great Zorg]

Eh,

I still maintain that the woman who was targeted by the AGP was "off", but then again, that may be her true self, masked over by years of cult programming and denial. I'm sure there are plenty of us here that would gamble good money on the claim that she was "sent in", unprepared and incapable of handling someone like AGP. Cowardice and bullying are two programmed imprints in the clams, I was there once. So were you. Remember?

Regarding the comment about the clams sending in a woman, let's face it: when it comes down to psychotic or just nasty anger turned violence, few women have a chance against most men. It's just simply a physical thing so the unwritten code of honour, albeit maybe long forgotten and less used, simply does not allow for a woman to enter an attack arena where a man may suffer harm. Call it chivalry. Call it sexist. Call it common sense. :confused2:

Regarding that women perpetrating the dangerous cult of $cientology and the suggestion that she gets what she deserves by asking for it by being a clam: there were millions of Germans who did the very same thing starting in 1935. They were also lied to, bullied and finally coerced by fear of loss of life and property to tow the Party Line.

With all of these protests and raids going on, I am wondering why no effective procedure of verbal assault leading to a denial of denial and hence, departure from the cult targeting the current clams. Remember, if all goes well, all current clams will one day be EX's.

 

[Mark A. Baker]

Pope is a big, scary-looking (since he acts so psycho) guy.

AGP is way too ruthless and could certainly learn quite a bit by watching sparrow's videos.

Having seen him in action in the past, I don't think he is acting and I doubt that he is capable of learning much about controlling his behavior.


Mark A. Baker

 

[Type4_PTS]

I think one can see what you all are talking about by watching a Sparrow video and a AGP video. Sparrow really keeps himself up to date on $cn news, relates it to Staff and Public, but I have never seen or heard him become harrassing to those he is talking to.

Which message do you think is heard and possibly remember?

AGP is way too ruthless and could certainly learn quite a bit by watching sparrow's videos.

I agree with both of you.

Here's a few good examples recorded yesterday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1glA67JjuzM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71zf0EREeBM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgR2X2asb6w

 

[Infinite]

shameless self-promoting bump

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xof9pBJvR4I

 

[GoNuclear]

right or wrong ...

Right or wrong, effective or not ... I have to admit, I laughed my ass off at those AGP videos. That guy is quite a character. Weather or not his antics are the right thing to direct at your average Scilon, Ken Moxon definitely has AGP treatment coming his way.

AGP may be a bit raunchy and some might say, reverting back to Scilon think, out PR. And that might be true. But I believe that any out PR he generates is offset by effectively creating a siege mentality in front of AOLA. In his own words, AGP might very well be a "harasshole" (a word that I saw on the AGP site, and one that I will incorporate into my vocabulary ... thanks, AGP) but lets face it, as a group, they deserve a harasshole.

It is my sincerest wish that Ken Moxon looses it totally with AGP and punches him but good ... not enough to do real damage, just hard enough to wind up paying him at least a 7 figure settlement and getting at least several months up at the Wayside Honor Ranch in Saugus, CA or worse. I'm sure that the inmates will really apreciate the likes of Ken Moxon. The LASD deputies will be thrilled to have him as well.

Pete

 

[JimJam]

I don't pay much attention to AGP's histrionics anymore (though I found this video funny). Several critics have contacted me to comment on AGP's accusations that I'm a "paid Scientology agent" and that I steered protesters from a Scientology event taking place downtown last month (which Tory later said she confirmed had taken place).

"yankonthis: how do you know that smurf is being paid of by the scientologists

AGP: We suspect he is because he was bad off financially in 2009 (weren't we all?) Recently he told the group to hold the monthly raid at the HGB Bldg. (boring been there location). Apparently there was a Sci event at a downtown hotel that Torey Magoo was told about. He insisted they protest in Hwd where it was quiet. This and other actions make us wonder if Smurf is a double agent. Gossip online about me as dereased 90% since I stopped talking to him."

AGP's accusations about me only started after I chose to disassociate from him which occurred around the time he was banned from both ESMB & WWP. I also spoke to his attorney Graham Berry about it. AGP, most SoCal anons and the folks at OSA are fully aware I was on disability in 2009, so I question his motives for DA'ing me with comments like I was "bad off in 2009."

Also, contrary to what the folks at RFW have posted. I am not the leader of Los Angeles Anonymous and don't dictate where anons can & cannot protest. I guess I am guilty for not having the sufficient OT powerz to have known that an unpublicized Dianetics event was happening downtown when we were protesting at the HGB. Also, Tory learned of the downtown event several days after the HGB protest not before as AGP alludes to in his accusations. I also do not schedule when & where anons protest. You might remember that AGP, in all his piss & vinegar, has accused Anonymous of being a cult, too.

His unfounded, angry accusations speak for themselves. His reasons for making videos of his solo protests are self-evident.

I just wanted to point out that gossip about AGP (and AO for that manner) is less because they are banned everywhere online, so people don't even think of them unless a pal of their's posts info about them.

Don't worry, they will mess up at another protest and we will talk about them again. Neither of them can appear to live if they are not the center of conversation.

 

[Infinite]

Right or wrong, effective or not ... I have to admit, I laughed my ass off at those AGP videos.
Pete

The lulz win every time. Pardon my manners, but this lot need to harden up. Now that the cult is on the ropes, now is the time to put the boot in.