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No. It's spot on. See how hysterical the guy in the picture is?that's rude and very non logical.
well, I think for people to progress from scientology is to realize no clears or OTs, once that has been achieved they are free.No. It's spot on. See how hysterical the guy in the picture is?
Veda is the Inquisitor of anti Scientology, running exes through loyalty tests, suggesting people aren't writing their own posts. Constantly suggesting people are scientologists or osa for not agreeing with him on every aspect of Scientology.
I think that if an ex is to progress, learn and evolve, people like Veda need to be criticized and spotted for the cynical and robotic game they are running on exes.
He is not above criticism, and his posts are among the rudest ever.
Not as rude as HellivaHoax, of course. So he's got that going for him.
That's a very simplistic view of the complex cultural readjustment an Ex is faced with.well, I think for people to progress from scientology is to realize no clears or OTs, once that has been achieved they are free.
Just because people post here doesn't mean they have not progressed.
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When it's not working with the proeminent critics, why not give a try with targeting the perceived alpha males of the perceived flock????No. It's spot on. See how hysterical the guy in the picture is?
Veda is the Inquisitor of anti Scientology, running exes through loyalty tests....
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Not as rude as HelluvaHoax, of course. So he's got that going for him.
You know, this board has some unbelievably capable people and you insult their intelligence by posting to them like they are children or severely damaged goods.That's a very simplistic view of the complex cultural readjustment an Ex is faced with.
It's not just "are there no Clears and OTs"?
It's 'can I trust the mental practitioners they have here in mainstream society'?
Maybe.
'Is Big Pharma gonna kill my children"?
Maybe not. But it's far from a certainty.
"Do members of mainstream society live meaningful lives without a Bridge to Total Freedom"?
Maybe some, maybe some not.
These are complex cultural re-adjustments from the sub-culture of Scientology, back into mainstream society. And they are not black and white at all.
None of this means Scientologists were damaged or are mentally ill simply from being in Scientology.
Leaving Scientology is primarily a cultural predicament, not primarily a psychological one.
Veda is hell and gone from being able to understand anything like this.
That's why I think his paranoid version of Anti-Scientology is so bad for Ex-Scientologists.
JesusYou know, this board has some unbelievably capable people and you insult their intelligence by posting to them like they are children or severely damaged goods.
You are wasting your time.
I couldn't help it, it must be dementia. What is it I am supposed to do now?Jesus
So rude!
pologize????
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I really don't know what to say to that. I could get in really deep.....Report your crimes to Emma!
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Stop it you two (Lotus and freethinker). You're fucking killing me here. I am hurting from laughing.
I'd do one of those fancy multi-quote things if I knew how - ain't got a handle on this format yet. Got to rush - off to save a stream (waterway thing). I will do my best to stop laughing so my companions don't think I have totally lost the plot.![]()
I think it's pretty simple, you seem to have made it complicated.That's a very simplistic view of the complex cultural readjustment an Ex is faced with.
It's not just "are there no Clears and OTs"?
It's 'can I trust the mental practitioners they have here in mainstream society'?
Maybe.
'Is Big Pharma gonna kill my children"?
Maybe not. But it's far from a certainty.
"Do members of mainstream society live meaningful lives without a Bridge to Total Freedom"?
Maybe some, maybe some not.
These are complex cultural re-adjustments from the sub-culture of Scientology, back into mainstream society. And they are not black and white at all.
None of this means Scientologists were damaged or are mentally ill simply from being in Scientology.
Leaving Scientology is primarily a cultural predicament, not primarily a psychological one.
Veda is hell and gone from being able to understand anything like this. In fact he views this as a DANGER, probably influenced by OSA!
That's why I think his paranoid Torquemada version of Anti-Scientology is so bad for Ex-Scientologists.