"The CHRIST IMPLANT" Scientology LIES! Christians can be Scientologists

Knows

Gold Meritorious Patron
Time to shed a little light and expose the truth about Hubbard's big fraudulent lie newbies are told when they come into a Scientology Org to inquire about just "WHAT IS SCIENTOLOGY".

I was a Christian and so were members of my family.

I was interested in what Scientology was so I read the book "What is Scientology" (later found out that the intention of this book is only to deceive people and mainly for "RELIGOUS CLOAKING" to receive tax exempt status and be immune from the Law of the Land.

See Lawerence Brennan's affidavit - (Larry Brennan helped the Co$ with religious cloaking when he was in Scientology)

See affidavit here: http://www.lermanet.com/reference/brennan-dec.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T5HYavczyc

I was told that Scientology is a religion for all religions by Staff. "Scientology does not get into the 8th Dynamic - GOD" - so Christians can be Scientologist's.

This is a bold face lie and carefully hidden out of view of the innocent victims that get sucked into the cult. Most staff never make it up the Bridge so they never find out the truth - Hubbard says that Christ was an implant! What is evil - is Scientology uses a CROSS to lure innocent victims into its trap.

My question - if everyone has the "Christ" Implant - how come Scientology replaces it with the "MUST BE SCIENTOLOGIST and WORSHIP HUBBARD, NOW COB implant"?

For your viewing pleasure - here's LRH on the CHRIST IMPLANT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=26H3yMA_pNg


This is FRAUD - a huge LIE!! Scientology lies to people because these people do not know that once they reach a certain "level of awareness" - they will be fed this lie!! That will get them OUT of Christianity and any other religion and INTO Scientology 100%!!

Please expose it to everyone you know!!

This is ANOTHER Scientology LIE!

 

AnonKat

Crusader
Old OT VII beforte DM squirreled it

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.christnet/yMsxJ9zn9S8

OT VIII, Part 2
US District Court, Central District of California
Fishman Case No 91-6426 HLH (Tx)

HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE
Saint Hill Manor. East Grinstead, Sussex

HCO BULLETIN OF 5 MAY 1980

LIMITED DISTRIBUTION ISSUE I

OT VIII Course Students
OT OT VIII Auditors
OT VIII CIS*s
AO Review Auditors
AO C/Ses
OT VIII Series I

C O N F I D E N T I A L

STUDENT BRIEFING

By the time you read this I will no longer be occupying the body and
identity that you have known as Ron. That identity continues to live
in the hearts and minds of many as well as in on-Source tech and admin
centers around the planet, and will inspire for years to come
Scientologists and lovers of truth every-where.

What follows is a story that has been withheld, for reasons which will
soon be obvious, until such time as there were enough OTs that
something could be done about it. That time Is now. It is not a nice
or a pretty story. but I trust
that having arrived on the OT VIII Course you are ready to hear it.
You have undoubtedly heard pieces of data over the years that hinted
at the greater untold reality of my mission here on Earth. but the
story was never written, nor spoken. in its entirety due to security
problems that have unfortunately always plagued the organization. It
is only now that I feel it safe to release the information, although
the time is rapidly approaching when I will have no choice in the
matter, the hour draws that near.

I an not going to delve too deeply into specifics as people have a
tendency to bog themselves down in significance. which would only
serve to delay the immediacy of the task at hand. Therefore I will be
brief.

Some eighty-odd million years ago Earth time (it actually dates at
78,395,042 but dates are & bit superfluous with this material) plans
were drawn by a group outside the MEST universe for the eventual
takeover of a good portion of
this universe. Not a particularly large nor Imaginative crew, their
exterior perspective. however. gives them considerable advantage over
tho time-bound beings of the MEST universe. Borrowing from earlier
operations such as
Helotrobus. they conceived an ongoing implant. some portions of which
have been fairly faithfully rendered in parts of the Bible. This
implant, laid in by carefully controlled genetic mutation at Incident
Two of OT Ill and periodically reinforced by controlled historic
events since then, makes it effectively impossible for beings on the
more heavily affected planets such as Earth to become free. It causes
progressive genetic "evolution" that gives the subject population
greater and greater susceptibility to the telepathic impingement and
direction of the controllers. In its final stage the progression
becomes almost geometric, and it is this final stage that we are
rapidly approaching. (0129)

Another aspect of this GE-line implant is that the body becomes in
effect a sort of thats trap that kicks in heavily on the being should
he attempt to expand his horizons beyond that of pure physical
universe reality. There can be temporary key-outs which we have all
experienced in varying degrees. but until this area is handled it can
honestly be said that there is no hope for continued expansion. The
good news is that once this is run out. expansion becomes rather
effortless and almost automatic.

No doubt you are familiar with the Revelations section of the Bible
where various events are predicted. Also mentioned Is a brief period
of time in which an arch-enemy of Christ. referred to as the anti-
Christ, will reign and his opinions will have sway. All this makes for
very fantastic, entertaining
reading but there is truth in it. This anti-Christ represents the
forces of Lucifer (literally, the "light bearers" or "light bringer"),
Lucifer being a mythical representation of the forces of
enlightenment, the Galactic Confederacy. My mission could be said to
fulfill the Biblical promise represented by this brief anti-Christ
period.
During this period there is a fleeting opportunity for the whole
scenario to be. effectively derailed. which
would make it impossible for the mass Marcabian landing (Second
Coming) to take place. The Second Coming is designed, among other
things, to trigger a rapid
series of destructive events.

With the exception of the original Buddhism, virtually all religions
of any consequence on this planet, mono- and pantheistic alike. have
been instruments to speed the progress of this "evolution of
consciousness" and bring about the eventual enslavement of mankind. As
you know, Siddhartha Gautama never claimed to be anything more than a
man. Having caught on to this operation, he
postulated his own return as Metteyya, part of which prophecy will
have been fulfilled upon the passing of L. Ron Hubbard.

For those of you whose Christian toes I may have stepped on. let me
take the opportunity to disabuse you of some lovely myths. For
instance, the historic Jesus was not nearly the sainted figure has
been made out to be. In addition
to being a lover of young boys and men. he was given to uncontrollable
bursts of temper and hatred that belied the general message of love,
understanding and other typical Marcab PR. You have only to look at
the history his teachings inspired to see where it all inevitably
leads. It Is historic fact and yet man still clings to the ideal. so
deep and insidious is the biologic implanting.


It Is a good joke that the Calactic Confederacy is associated with the
Serpent in the Garden, the beast and other emissaries of the "Prince
of Darkness". Yet
in certain passages and esoteric interpretations of the Bible (much of
which has been taken out and effectively suppressed for centuries) as
well as the
Cabbalah, the truth reveals itself quite nicely for the clever and the
ungullible.

So it really is a race against time and one that we happen to be
losing at the moment, as the implant drama inexorably plays itself out
in spite of the breakneck pace I've managed to keep up these last
thirty-five years.

I had an inkling, but only that, of the insidiousness of this material
as far back as 1945. Later. in charcteristic over-optimism, I thought
that R6 would be the end of it. But that was followed by NOTs and the
Purification Rundown
and still the string continued to unwind with the ball at the end of
it just out of sight. It makes ons wonder about such things as fate
and destiny, such
(0130)

was the resolve with which I managed to cling to that string. not
often knowing how close I was to falling into the abyss myself. but
destiny it merely the rationalization of feeble minds. Things don't
just happen, they are caused.
And causative beings can undo the plans of madmen and would-be
enslavers, no matter how long those plans may have been in the making.

I will soon leave this world only to return and complete my mission
with another Identity. Although I long to stretch my arms back in
repose on some distant star in some distant galaxy. It appears that is
one dream that will
have to wait. But my return depends on people like you doing these
materials thoroughly and completely so that there will be a
genetically uncontaminated body for me to pick up and resume where I
left off. A body free of religious
mania, right/wrong dichotomy and synthetic karma. The job ahead is far
too tough to even contemplate doing with your standard -- courtesy of
certain other-dimensional players and their Marcab pieces, many of
whom are right here
In the general populace -- genetically altered body.

Without the biogenetic meddling of those who stand outside time (who
cannot yet directly influence our world and must work through others)
the dwindling spiral is not nearly as automatic and self-perpetuating
as it appears. There are
regions even in isolated parts of the Milky Way where poets are free
to poet and magicians can paint reality with their magic wands and
exteriorize without body kickback. But these areas unfortunately are
fewer and fewer.

I will return not as a religious leader but a political one. That
happens to be the requisite beingness for the task at hand. I will not
be known to most of you, my activities misunderstood by many, yet
along with your constant
effort in the theta band I will effectively postpone and then halt a
series of events designed to make happy slaves of us all.

So there you have it. The secret that I have kept close to my chest
all these years. Now you too are part of this secret and I no longer
have to shoulder the burden alone or live with the possibility of body
death before all the data
could be released. And with this briefing I entrust to each of you the
responsibility for this material until such time as I an able to
return. For we have no help from any other quarter in this matter. The
handful of secret societies throughout history that have caught on to
this game have long since
fallen by the wayside or been taken over and become instruments of the
very menace they were set up to combat.

The rundown is long and can be arduous, but it must be done thoroughly
if there is to be any effect not only on the body of the pre-OT but
the body of his or her progeny as wall. There is some danger, but with
OT VII thoroughly complete
It is not nearly so great as the danger witnessed by assorted
unfortunates who happened to stumble into this area in their sleep or
in moments of reverie or anaten, experiencing an hitherto mysterious
phenomenon known as "spontaneous
combustion".

CAUTION: DO NOT BE PTS WHILE TRAVERSING THIS THIRD AND FINAL WALL OF
FIRE

But the area is well charted. the rundown many years in secret
development, and by the time you read this undoubtedly completed on
myself. The wins awaiting
you are like none that you have ever experienced, not just for you.
but for your children. your children's children and the whole of
mankind, if we succeed. And we will. If we had time we should pity the
many poor souls, from (0131)

1950 to PT, who chose such an exactly inopportune moment to drop off
the road to truth and disconnect from reality, the full burst and
glory of OT practically within their grasp. But we haven't the time to
"wax philosophic" or ponder might have beens.

The rundown follows. Again I say, do it thoroughly and completely, for
it is your ticket to the stars. And beyond!

L. RON HUBBARD
FOUNDER

LRH:lrh
 

Ogsonofgroo

Crusader
Re: Old OT VII beforte DM squirreled it

I thought I saw this being debunked in another thread a few months ago. I think helluvahoax may have been involved in the debunking? Or maybe I'm mistaken?

I don't get the question, do you mean Hubbard being a lying con-artist thingy pulling shit out of his hat?
Please TE, could you elaborate a tad, or at least be more specific?

Kthnxbai
:cheers:
 

ThetanExterior

Gold Meritorious Patron
Re: Old OT VII beforte DM squirreled it

I don't get the question, do you mean Hubbard being a lying con-artist thingy pulling shit out of his hat?
Please TE, could you elaborate a tad, or at least be more specific?

Kthnxbai
:cheers:

I mean this HCOB.

I seem to remember a thread being started wherein someone posted an HCOB or HCOPL similar to this and the general consensus was it was a fake.

Maybe it wasn't this one, but it seems similar to me.
 

Veda

Sponsor
Re: Lucifer OT VIII

It's authentic, but it's only the beginning theory part. There was never any follow up making it a complete level, as far as I know. When Senior C/S Int. Ray Mithoff finally got around to tossing together a "New OT 8," (the "old" OT 8 displayed on the Grade Chart from the mid 1960s to the mid 1970s never existed), it just didn't fit or make sense, although it was included in the theory part initially.


From a July 2013 thread. Click the double horizontal arrows to see the entire thread.

I also doubted the authenticity of the Lucifer HCOB of 1980.

That was mainly because some of the writing, IMO, was not in Hubbard's writing style.

Also, I knew of no persons, who were around Hubbard during that time, who had confirmed its authenticity.

Recently, there was sufficient evidence from reliable people to confirm, for me, that it was - for a while - on both the Class 8 and also New OT 8 course.

More recently, I had confirmed that Hubbard did author it. That it came via Pat Broeker, who was extremely excited about it, and wanted a new OT level built around it and based on it.

I have a question as to whether it was typed by Hubbard, or was dictated by Hubbard. If it was dictated by Hubbard and, then, formatted by Broeker, perhaps Broeker added some small amount of content to bridge from idea to idea; however the core, essential, document, was Hubbard's.

One additional bit of information was that Hubbard was using mind/mood altering medical drugs at the time.

Hubbard's reference to the Cabala is noteworthy, and his descent into yet more implant scenarios ("the third wall of fire") - this time with the implanters outside the physical universe - was predicable.

So, I stand corrected in my earlier rejection of this document's authenticity.
 

NoName

A Girl Has No Name
Re: Old OT VII beforte DM squirreled it

I thought I saw this being debunked in another thread a few months ago. I think helluvahoax may have been involved in the debunking? Or maybe I'm mistaken?

Marty actually verified its authenticity a few months back.

The general consensus several months ago on ESMB was that it was fake. In fact, I have two very good friends who did OTVIII the old way and the new way and swore up and down that they never saw this.

Turned out that this version of OTVIII was only given experimentally to, I believe SO (could be staff too - I don't remember), for a couple of months. Then it was pulled because it was making people freak out too badly. The implication of the blog post was that the people were upset at Hubs calling himself the anti-Christ much more than they were upset about him calling Jesus a child molester and gay. Personally, I think defaming Jesus is worse, because I'm quite sure that Hubs isn't good enough to be the anti-Christ, and frankly I wasn't surprised he was evil by the time I read it online for the first time. But that's neither here nor there.

Anyway, I did something rare and commented on Marty's blog when he published this, because the explanation was thorough enough and from people who were actually involved and credible, and in it ended the debate (for me, at least) once and for all.
 

AnonKat

Crusader
Re: Old OT VII beforte DM squirreled it

Marty actually verified its authenticity a few months back.

Actually no, a few old OT 8 s did that he trusted and believed.

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Cat Daddy Brian Thomas Lambert
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Marty turned around when two ex-scientologists he trusts confirmed that LRH indeed released a first version of OT8 ? that said Jesus was a Peadophile. Mike waited untill his mom had past away.

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OrangySky Cat Daddy
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Mike won't come out all the way - if he ever does - until he feels his blog has served its purpose. He wants to help those in to get out, and they need a safe place to land that isn't anti-LRH and where they can still speak their language. I think he's doing a great thing with that.

Marty has great regard for Jesus, so I can see why that Jesus/Pedophile thing would've bothered him.
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Brian Thomas Lambert Cat Daddy
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I remember that Cat Daddy, I started that dialog that got two or three OT 8s to post that they read,in Ron's own words, that he is the anti Christ that the bible talks about.
It was the original OT8 course and the Class 8 course.

DM was freeked out by it because others were saying WTF. DM changed the original OT 8 to not have Ron's claiming to be the anti Christ.

With Scientology things keep getting stranger
 

NoName

A Girl Has No Name
Re: Old OT VII beforte DM squirreled it

Actually no, a few old OT 8 s did that he trusted and believed.

Thanks, can you post the link to that? I was trying to find it, and the best I could do was the forgiveness post. Marty had basically treated it as being authentic, and then, if I remember correctly, some of the commenters went to a bit more detail. I thought I remembered Marty filling in some of the history in the comments, but I could be wrong about that.
 

AnonKat

Crusader
Re: Old OT VII beforte DM squirreled it

Thanks, can you post the link to that? I was trying to find it, and the best I could do was the forgiveness post. Marty had basically treated it as being authentic, and then, if I remember correctly, some of the commenters went to a bit more detail. I thought I remembered Marty filling in some of the history in the comments, but I could be wrong about that.

I am trying too,went from juli to mid september, I have a headache now will carry on later.

started with seeking posts of Brian Thomas Lambert
 

AnonKat

Crusader
I like this one most:

Path of Buddha | July 5, 2013 at 9:22 am | Reply

Marty,
I met miscavige on the Freewinds after I read the anti-christ information.
He looked to me like he was in a daze of confusion at the time.
He cancelled OT8 a few months later and ordered everyone to return to Flag for re-tread. Obviously, I flatly refused. How could anyone re-tread after reading that Bulletin? People from Flag called, I received letters from
staff and OT8 completions. I held my ground. How can you re-tread
something you understand better than miscavige?

Much Metta,
George M. White

David-Miscavige-007.jpg
 

phenomanon

Canyon
Dread getting into this about the " Christ Implant" issue under discussion.
but here goes. My dates are so loose as to be fooked , but anyways: I was handed the Issue by a friend from the Riverside Mission. She was friends with the ppl She said it was "liberated" from the Freewinds by her husband.
I had other personal info from another friend, who was a seriously good writer, and a good mimicry of LRH writing. He was the Editor of a Newletter called "The Heretic". I believed that he ( DH) wrote it, and it circulated around among the Class V111 "outies".
It was not on the Class 8 courses that I did in early 1980's.
Another Issue had come around, and it was allegedly the OT8 procedure .. The first thing on the checksheet was to solo audit the entire "Handbook for Preclears".
I discussed this with a few Cl8 friends and they were ridged up about it". JH said it was insulting. LJ said he just by-passed it altogether. I heard that the OT8 students were hating it. When i heard that DM had issued a new OT8 level. I thought that was because of complaints .
I can't hold onto this rain of thought any longer.
The 'bottom line' on this , in my opinion, it was not written by LRH, but it for sure reflected LRH's provable statements. IMO, it is a forgery.
An OT8 student could have secretly slipped it into the OT8 pack. Yeah. Well, they "liberated" the CL8 tapes right outta the fooking classroom. (No, OSA, I didn't do it).LOL.
 

AnonKat

Crusader
Thank you for your honest and wel argumented view edit: and talk out of expierience, do you know any of the OT8's that DO say it ios real on Marty's blog? like Bob Grant?

Dread getting into this about the " Christ Implant" issue under discussion.
but here goes. My dates are so loose as to be fooked , but anyways: I was handed the Issue by a friend from the Riverside Mission. She was friends with the ppl She said it was "liberated" from the Freewinds by her husband.
I had other personal info from another friend, who was a seriously good writer, and a good mimicry of LRH writing. He was the Editor of a Newletter called "The Heretic". I believed that he ( DH) wrote it, and it circulated around among the Class V111 "outies".
It was not on the Class 8 courses that I did in early 1980's.
Another Issue had come around, and it was allegedly the OT8 procedure .. The first thing on the checksheet was to solo audit the entire "Handbook for Preclears".
I discussed this with a few Cl8 friends and they were ridged up about it". JH said it was insulting. LJ said he just by-passed it altogether. I heard that the OT8 students were hating it. When i heard that DM had issued a new OT8 level. I thought that was because of complaints .
I can't hold onto this rain of thought any longer.
The 'bottom line' on this , in my opinion, it was not written by LRH, but it for sure reflected LRH's provable statements. IMO, it is a forgery.
An OT8 student could have secretly slipped it into the OT8 pack. Yeah. Well, they "liberated" the CL8 tapes right outta the fooking classroom. (No, OSA, I didn't do it).LOL.
 
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phenomanon

Canyon
Thank you for your honest and wel argumented view edit: and talk out of expierience, do you know any of the OT8's that DO say it ios real on Marty's blog? like Bob Grant?

I don't know any 8's who think it is genuine, but I don't know many 8's. The issue was a hot topic when it first got passed around, but after initial controversy, interest waned. I only see it mentioned here, on this newsgroup, usually by someone who just came across it.
It could be that the 8's think that if you're gonna have Christ, then you have to have Anti- Christ. ( like an opp-term: "who or what would oppose a Christ"?
Actually, that's just my 'think' on it, but I am jaded and bitter. LOL.
 

Type4_PTS

Diamond Invictus SP
I was going to wish all a Merry R6 Implant Day but I won't...

What pisses me off more than most everything is the deception by the Church of Scientology in pretending to celebrate Christmas. I guess that that is part of how they pretend to be compatible with Christianity.

Scientology teaches that Christianity is just the result of false memories implanted 75 million years ago. And the concept of a Christian heaven is the result of two implants dating back trillions of years ago. So how can there be any compatibility? :unsure:


Here's an excerpt from the Scientology scriptures:

"[SUP]...[/SUP]I imagine when we finally manage to communicate with beetles under rocks and free them, we’ll no doubt find the Creator of Heaven who 43 + Trillion years ago designed and built the Pearly Gates and entrapped us all."

--L. Ron Hubbard, (from HCOB on Routine 3 Heaven, May 13th, 1963)
 
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