The 'Diana' formerly the 'Enchantress'

[Dulloldfart]

Yeh, well . . . I'm told I do have my charm

You recognize the building as the old HASI in Fitzroy Street?

R

Nah, before my time. The only Scn building in London I was familiar with was London Org in Tottenham Court Road.

Paul

 

[Rmack]

RMack . . .

Interesting to get this info from you . . .

To my knowledge, Harry Mason was not an SO member . . . . he told me while we were at FSO as public that he had bought and personally owned the Diana after it had been sold off by the Cherch . . . . and then, subsequently had returned it to them.

I had lots of dealings with him, even hosting him in NYC in around 1981-2.

Your description of him is apt. Though he, like all "operators" (umm, con-men) he could appear nice to those he wanted to either impress or get something from . . . . but he was all "meeee . . . I want, and am the rightest thing in the universe."

One of the things I must plead guilty to is being rather too trusting of "fellow OTs" . . . it's like, when you are cultized you believe the propaganda . . . particularly if you yourself are decent.

Harry, was indeed an "operator" . . . in 1981 he was touting an investment in a computer software system that could analyze Landstat satellite data for recognizing fault lines amenable for gold or other metallic deposits . . . particularly in Oz.

While at Flag, on the subject of yachting, I revealed to him my invention of cambering the keels of racing yachts . . . this to offset the force of the wind in the sails such that the yacht would stay more upright and not lose wind power due to slippage caused by the lean. Harry lit up on this concept.

I had been planning to introduce it to the yachting world after I got shot of Flag service . . . next I heard was Harry in Oz and the invention being put to work out there!!! It's a standard feature in the big and best ocean racing yachts now days.

Of course, investment in his gold mining venture went south . . . Harry had expenses, of course

Ya, Harry is now dead . . . living life the way he and Hubbard did tends to take you down in ways that are unpleasant.

Hopefully, my post fills in a little bit of information you can benefit from, Rmack . . . if Harry told you or led you to believe he was SO . . . . he was bullshitting you.

Rog

I never said or believed that Harry Mason was in the Sea Org. He was a rich Aussie public on lines at Flag.

He gave the Diana back to the Sea Org? He was talking about renovating it when I last talked to him.

Does anyone know for sure if the treasure hunting Australian mentioned in Bent Corydon's book was Harry as I suspected?

 

[Enthetan]

Huh? I didn't know there were any SO songs.

Paul

He made some up for us. Or maybe LRH did.

They were horrible.

"We get things donnnne
Like no one else before ussss

chorus:
"And we florishhhh,
And we Prosperrrr!"

[video=youtube;VKcAYMb5uk4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKcAYMb5uk4[/video]

 

[Dulloldfart]

He made some up for us. Or maybe LRH did.

They were horrible.

Based on his Galactic Patrol Marching Song, that is very understandable!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5qOxlC61Xo

Paul

 

[Rmack]

CBR = Captain Bill Robertson

Ah, OK, I've heard of him.

I was at ASHO day when a mission was inflicted on us in '81, I think. I believe it was Bill Robertson, but I don't remember the guy being a Captain.

This was the mission that put us on the pilot purification program. He also made everyone run up to Griffith Observatory. I was a jock, and could have beat everyone back, but I foolishly didn't pass this guy when I could have. Not sure why I did that.

It nearly killed some of the old ladies who had been sitting around smoking cigarettes and getting little or no exercise for a few decades.

 

[strativarius]

Nah, before my time. The only Scn building in London I was familiar with was London Org in Tottenham Court Road.

Paul

I remember the place (Fitzroy Street) well. It was full of post-menopausal upper-middle-class ladies in Pringle twinsets and pearls IIRC, the sort you'd see at one of Madame Blavatsky's seances I expect. As a sixteen-year-old kid I stood out like a sore thumb.

 

[Rmack]

Re: The 'Diana' formerly the 'Enchanter'

Sorry, just noticed this: the original name was "Enchanter."

Paul

Yeah, I probably got that wrong. Chalk it up to the tradition of thinking of ships as being female.

 

[Rmack]

Ah, OK, I've heard of him.

I was at ASHO day when a mission was inflicted on us in '81, I think. I believe it was Bill Robertson, but I don't remember the guy being a Captain.

This was the mission that put us on the pilot purification program. He also made everyone run up to Griffith Observatory. I was a jock, and could have beat everyone back, but I foolishly didn't pass this guy when I could have. Not sure why I did that.

It nearly killed some of the old ladies who had been sitting around smoking cigarettes and getting little or no exercise for a few decades.

I wanted to correct my own post, without deleting it.

Now that I think about it, I believe it was Bill Franks, and not Bill Robertson that ran the mission on ASHO Day in '81 that introduced the purif, led the run up to the Griffith Observatory, and all of that.

My apologies, but it was over 30 years ago.

 

[Rmack]

That's not to say I haven't met Capt Bill before.

I shared the scariest elevator ride with him one time that I've ever taken. I'd say more, but you guys already think I'm crazy enough.

 

[Enthetan]

That's not to say I haven't met Capt Bill before.

I shared the scariest elevator ride with him one time that I've ever taken. I'd say more, but you guys already think I'm crazy enough.

I've met Captain Bill. There is NOTHING you can say about him which would surprise me.

Please tell!

 

[Rmack]

I've met Captain Bill. There is NOTHING you can say about him which would surprise me.

Please tell!

OK, you asked for it.

I was riding the Otis elevator at ASHO Day one afternoon. I was used to seeing lots of weird people in uniform going about. The two young teenage chicks in full regalia with the grim expressions were among my favorites. I became aware that the guy in the elevator with me was a friggin' Captain! four gold strips and all. Understand that the CO of ASHO day at the time was an Ensign.

I just sort of didn't look, but, if you understand me, reached out in my mind. The next thing I know it was like Hieronymus Bosch made a movie, and it was now playing in my mind.

I kid you not. It scared the living shit out of me. I've never experienced anything like it. Well, let me qual that. I have almost, but thank God it's rare.

I think this guy had a real passenger.

 

[JustSheila]

Did you ever meet Dafna Dan???? She was the looney tune CBR married sometime around the end of 1980 or in '81 . . . she was trouble everywhere she went and one of no training whatsoever nor case advancement . . . . though wont to claim to be OT-through-the-roof.

Capt Bill blew it when he took "his wife" to LRH's secure hide-away (against the rules) . . .

All this is in his book.

I knew Dafna (AKA Danny) in London . . . . she was trouble there too . . .

Here she is hanging onto my arm in my days of Chaplain in London . . . this after I'd just married the couple to my right (they went on to start the Mission in Brighton, England. This all early 1968
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Roger, you really bring back some funny memories!

Yes, I met Dani once briefly, and oh the rumors I heard, lol!

Roger, I was Estates staff then, but I was very young (16) and wild in a woggy way I broke so many rules that I didn't even know existed... and I knew all the Estates staff very well and had many chats after hours. You see, Roger, I had this friend named Daryl (don't recall last name) and also Lance, his tall friend with glasses had a secret office in the tunnels of their own, hidden and locked, and they were FOLO or CMO Garrison Missionaires doing something or other long-term to do with Estates. Daryl and the other guy were fascinating to me and their secret office was a great place for a few beers over sci-fi and conspiracy talk, and for inside info on scn, or to just get away from all-hands or abusive seniors. Nobody could ever find me there and it was so cool. The more impressed I was, the more dox they showed me and stories they told, and I was too green to even realize what I was seeing wasn't everyday info, lol!! Daryl showed me a Directive that put Capt Bill over the complex renos, reporting directly to LRH. Yes, I was impressed, lol!

But back to Dani, LOL LOL LOL!

Daryl filled me in on CBR's odd 2D. Apparently she was a lot younger than CBR and real hot-looking but an absolute bubble-brain and CBR was completely whipped. Daryl told me if I ever met her to run the other way, because she had somehow 'eliminated' any possible competition for CBR by transfers or RPFs or whatever, she got jealous easily, and all she had to do was say a few words and CBR would come down hard on anyone she decided she didn't want around.

So that was the rumor. I saw her once, briefly, with Capt Bill, but didn't stick around to even be noticed after Daryl's warning. All of PAC was terrified of Capt Bill and I was regularly in enough trouble all on my own and didn't need any new enemies.

I'd heard somewhere along the line that Dani was the reason L Ron got rid of Capt Bill, but I'd forgotten all about that until you mentioned it. Wow. Thanks for reminding me of a very funny time and for confirming that.

I don't think he was Flag Bureaux staff in that period. I was Flag Bureaux staff around 1980-81, when Captain Bill arrived at FB on a mission to sort out Flag Bureaux, which means he was CMO. Whether or not he was officially on FB's roster, he operated under the orders of higher.

I've talked about his mission into FB on other threads in ESMB. Let's just say, the guy came across as a lunatic then ("Our OTs stopped a nuclear war! The missiles were in the air!"). His project where he got all of FB to sing some Sea Org songs, which where then taped and sent to the FOLOs, were an especially embarrassing time.

Must have been CMO, then. He was directly under L Ron until his last couple of years. CMO makes more sense. Thanks.

I wanted to correct my own post, without deleting it.

Now that I think about it, I believe it was Bill Franks, and not Bill Robertson that ran the mission on ASHO Day in '81 that introduced the purif, led the run up to the Griffith Observatory, and all of that.

My apologies, but it was over 30 years ago.

Bill Franks was ED Int then, so no. Could have been Jack Dirmann, he did a lot of missions in PAC. He did one at ASHO-Day and apparently it brought out the worst in him. It was a long time ago for me, too, but between 1980 and 1983, both Jack Dirmann and Capt Bill did Garrison Missions at ASHO-D. I wasn't ASHO-D staff, but was there doing auditing courses (until AOLA staff weren't allowed to do that anymore) and had ASHO friends, but I just can't remember when Capt Bill did his ASHO-D mission or what it was for and when Jack Dirmann did his mission there. It seemed for about four years all we saw at AOLA and ASHO-D was mission after mission after mission and all the missionaires were incredibly abusive, too.

 

[Leon-2]

I chatted briefly to Bill on the Apollo when I was there in '71. He must have been very keyed out then because he seemed quite normal to me. Years later I did Excal and some other actions of his bridge. Made a hell of a lot more sense than NOTs ever did and I got huge gains. The Phoenix level made no sense to me for years but a while ago I restudied it and it makes sense now. Haven't run it though.

Lots of guys in Scientology were/are bat-shit crazy. So what? Look on the bright side.

 

[JustSheila]

I chatted briefly to Bill on the Apollo when I was there in '71. He must have been very keyed out then because he seemed quite normal to me.

Lots of folks got increasingly rough on staff or increasingly brutal the longer they were in the SO. Jack Dirmann (sp?) had a reputation for being a really great, fair guy. Up until the 80s, people liked him and spoke well of him. Then he got a bad rep at the ASHO mission and maybe a mission or two afterwards.

At that time, missionaires were keeping staff up half the night doing whitegloves or other things till 3 am, then back to post at 8:30 am (with a 15 min bus ride home and another 15 min back) to do it all again the next day. Libs (time off) and often even hygiene time were cancelled. ASHO and AOLA didn't send folks to the RPF, but the missions always did. Then there was the yelling and putting down of staff and cutting pay from $24/wk to $12-$18 or even less, cutting out or viciously cutting back on food and even any trips to the medical center for sick or injured staff. Missions were always a nightmare, but by the time he was in charge of the complex renos, Capt Bill was one of the most cruel and really abused his power. The torture he put the RPF through and all the innocent people trapped there... minds were broken. Think John Colletto.

 

[RogerB]

Ya . . . one of the insanities of the Hubbard gig and his giving inordinate powers to these "OTs" is that the power went to their heads and that power was expressed from the "dark side."

Alan Walter recognized this and handled it with his Ascension Experience Handling . . . there is a question Alan put on his "Celebration of Regained Abilities, States and Wins Procedure" . . . it calls for the guy who has had the big win/key out/ascension to look at whether he has moved into the Dark Side or the Light Side of the ability or power . . . and Alan had the procedures to handle the situation.

When on lines I saw too many, too bloody many of the idiot classes dramatizing the evil mis-use of power when ascended and/or promoted into a position of power over others.

 

[Enthetan]

Lots of folks got increasingly rough on staff or increasingly brutal the longer they were in the SO. Jack Dirmann (sp?) had a reputation for being a really great, fair guy. Up until the 80s, people liked him and spoke well of him. Then he got a bad rep at the ASHO mission and maybe a mission or two afterwards.

At that time, missionaires were keeping staff up half the night doing whitegloves or other things till 3 am, then back to post at 8:30 am (with a 15 min bus ride home and another 15 min back) to do it all again the next day. Libs (time off) and often even hygiene time were cancelled. ASHO and AOLA didn't send folks to the RPF, but the missions always did. Then there was the yelling and putting down of staff and cutting pay from $24/wk to $12-$18 or even less, cutting out or viciously cutting back on food and even any trips to the medical center for sick or injured staff. Missions were always a nightmare, but by the time he was in charge of the complex renos, Capt Bill was one of the most cruel and really abused his power. The torture he put the RPF through and all the innocent people trapped there... minds were broken. Think John Colletto.

While the missionaires are the visible "face" of the mission, they often are kept on a tight leash by Mission Ops back at Flag or Int. What you don't see are the telexes they keep getting, telling them exactly what to do and how to do it.

If this was an Int mission, you might just have had LRH in his "Mr Hyde" valence dictating all those actions, with the missionaires having to act like it's all THEIR ideas.

In orgs, you often see people using their power to destroy people. What sometimes is the case, though, is that the intent to destroy comes from THEIR senior (or further up the line), and part of the order is that they make it look like it's their idea. You see that in LRH's HCOPL "Responsibilities of Leaders" (also known as the Bolivar policy), where he stresses that one of the duties of a junior is to do dirty deeds for the benefit of a senior, but to preserve the senior's PR image by making it look like the dirty deed was the junior's idea.

You have similar things happen in the corporate environment. I once had a senior berate me, telling me that part of my job was to promote senior management's ideas as the greatest thing ever, without regard to how stupid I thought it was. I guess my lack of willingness to lie to juniors was why I never rose to senior management.

 

[Dulloldfart]

While the missionaires are the visible "face" of the mission, they often are kept on a tight leash by Mission Ops back at Flag or Int. What you don't see are the telexes they keep getting, telling them exactly what to do and how to do it.

If this was an Int mission, you might just have had LRH in his "Mr Hyde" valence dictating all those actions, with the missionaires having to act like it's all THEIR ideas.

And wasn't the Dwarf the Action Aide (in charge of missions) for a while?

Paul

 

[Enthetan]

And wasn't the Dwarf the Action Aide (in charge of missions) for a while?

Paul

If he was, it was after my time. And if he was CMO action aide, I wouldn't have known.

 

[Dulloldfart]

If he was, it was after my time. And if he was CMO action aide, I wouldn't have known.

I stopped being lazy and Googled it.

http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/clearwatersun/homer-schomer.htm

In time, Miscavige became involved in sect management on an international basis and was assigned to the position of CMO Action Aide International and eventually to ASI.​

Paul

 

[cakemaker]

Huh? I didn't know there were any SO songs.

Paul

The old High Winds magazines used to publish some.