The 'Diana' formerly the 'Enchantress'

[Rmack]

Bill Franks was ED Int then, so no. Could have been Jack Dirmann, he did a lot of missions in PAC. He did one at ASHO-Day and apparently it brought out the worst in him. It was a long time ago for me, too, but between 1980 and 1983, both Jack Dirmann and Capt Bill did Garrison Missions at ASHO-D. I wasn't ASHO-D staff, but was there doing auditing courses (until AOLA staff weren't allowed to do that anymore) and had ASHO friends, but I just can't remember when Capt Bill did his ASHO-D mission or what it was for and when Jack Dirmann did his mission there. It seemed for about four years all we saw at AOLA and ASHO-D was mission after mission after mission and all the missionaires were incredibly abusive, too.

Are you sure? I suppose is could have been late 1980 went the mission I recall happened.

Does anyone out there remember when the Purif pilot program was started at ASHO? And how about the run up to Griffith Observatory?

I sure thought it was Bill Franks. It wasn't the guy with the four stripes I saw in the elevator that ran the mission.

 

[JustSheila]

Are you sure? I suppose is could have been late 1980 went the mission I recall happened.

Does anyone out there remember when the Purif pilot program was started at ASHO? And how about the run up to Griffith Observatory?

I sure thought it was Bill Franks. It wasn't the guy with the four stripes I saw in the elevator that ran the mission.

I Googled. Surprisingly, it wasn't that easy to find the dates but I did.

In December 1979, he (Bill Franks) was appointed by Hubbard to be "Senior Management Executive International." Franks eventually ended up as ED Int, likewise appointed personally by LRH in December 1980

http://cofsexit.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-real-reason-people-leave.html

The next doc is extremely interesting. It is a legal doc, a court testimony. Check this out:

15? November 1981 [Re: a 1986 class action lawsuit]: "The suit describesa purported November 1981 struggle to control church assets in whichMiscavige allegedly locked up church leader William Franks 'in a roomfor several weeks while Miscavige assumed control of all corporate bankaccounts and other assets.'" --The Associated Press, December 31, 1986,Wednesday, AM cycle, HEADLINE: $1 Billion Fraud Suit Filed by FormerMembers, By RICHARD BENKE, Associated Press Writer DATELINE: LOS ANGELES

http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/bill-franks-witness-tampering.html

Then later in the same link:

27 December 1981 Bill Franks is removed from post as ED Int by John
Nelson. He is replaced with Kerry Gleeson. --Jon Atack, article, "So,
What Really Happened?"

Wow. He was only ED INT for one year. I'd thought he was on longer than that. After that, he was declared SP (the Declare is at the same link) Hard to believe Kerry Gleeson survived longer as ED INT than Bill Franks, but he did.

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ADDED: I just found a reference to the mission Bill Franks did at ASHO-D:

Bill Franks, one-time ED International, did this at ASHO
Day. He was able to get the "GI" up in "highest ever" ranges


by threatening that if SO staff didn't meet their
statistical quotas they would be sent to the RPF.


This "stat-push" by blunt threats of punishment which were
unmistakable was not without horrible consequences. One
such result of this coercive method can be illustrated
by the following true story.


The CMO sent a mission to ASHO with Bill Franks as the
Mission I/C. The "GI" had been in a very low "non-viable"


range of approximately $40,000 per week during 1979. By
December 1979, with Bill Franks running the show, the "GI"


acheived "highest ever" range. Even over Christmas week,
the "GI" was $120,000. Hubbard even sent a telex to the
other orgs saying "Look at what ASHO D did. What wrong
with you other orgs that your GI is down? ASHO Day has
proved that there are no valid reasons why stats can't
be gotten up. Get cracking!"



http://www.freezone.org/timetrack/1981.htm#1981, June

(also from the same link above)

Hope this helps clarify. It seems that in December 1979, he completed his ASHO-D mission and then went directly to the "Senior Management Director International" and then to ED Int - both appointments were personally by LRH. Then he was gone.

 

[Rmack]

I Googled. Surprisingly, it wasn't that easy to find the dates but I did.



http://cofsexit.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-real-reason-people-leave.html

The next doc is extremely interesting. It is a legal doc, a court testimony. Check this out:



http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/bill-franks-witness-tampering.html

Then later in the same link:



Wow. He was only ED INT for one year. I'd thought he was on longer than that. After that, he was declared SP (the Declare is at the same link) Hard to believe Kerry Gleeson survived longer as ED INT than Bill Franks, but he did.

--------------------------

Another possibility is James Byrne. He had all sorts of decorations and did a lot of missions in PAC. If you're sure it was Bill Franks, there is one reference there to a mission he did at ASHO:


(also from the same link above)

Hope this helps clarify. It seems that in December 1979, he completed his ASHO-D mission and then went directly to the "Senior Management Director International" and then to ED Int - both appointments were personally by LRH. Then he was gone.

Hell, the GI was always the main target of any mission. That was by far the most important goal. Putting us all on the purif while making some of us eat cold beans and rice was just a means to an end. Hubbard probably thought this would motivate people to make more money, and pump the poisons out that are keeping them from doing it.

Now that I think about it, it must have been '79, not '80 when this mission ran. And it was the winter, so this December mission could be it.

Does anyone know when the purif was introduced to the public? It would be shortly after this period.

 

[Rmack]

From a previous post;


(The CMO sent a mission to ASHO with Bill Franks as the
Mission I/C. The "GI" had been in a very low "non-viable"


range of approximately $40,000 per week during 1979. By
December 1979, with Bill Franks running the show, the "GI"


acheived "highest ever" range. Even over Christmas week,
the "GI" was $120,000. Hubbard even sent a telex to the
other orgs saying "Look at what ASHO D did. What wrong
with you other orgs that your GI is down? ASHO Day has
proved that there are no valid reasons why stats can't
be gotten up. Get cracking!")




I remember this period when ASHO day had over 100 grand GI weeks. They had this system going, where the org only was allowed to keep something like 10% of which ever was the lowest stat; the adjusted gross income, whatever they called it after expenses, and VSD, Value of Services Delivered. If they didn't finish people on services to an amount over the AGI, then 10% of the VSD was used, and vice versa.

So, while we were making that kind of money consistently, for some reason, we couldn't get paid, or have decent food. Don't get me wrong, I was married to a CMO member, and I could eat with her in their mess. I wasn't the only one avoiding this horror. I didn't see many of the crew, especially the higher ups, in our mess

No money when I had a cavity fall out. I was free to use my own resources to somehow get to the UCLA dental school and let students work on me on the day off they were not giving me. They weren't even paying me half pay for weeks, Nada. Every few weeks, maybe half. It was like $17.50 if I remember right.

This started to wake me up that something was just not right.

 

[Rmack]

I think another revealing anecdote about this very time we're talking about, is the fact that the low stat of the two I talked about was almost always Value of Services Delivered.

It seems that although they could pressure people into paying for the Saint Hill Special Briefing Course, getting them to actually show up in town, sit down and be subjected to the hours and hours of reading Hubbard or listening to his taped voice wasn't so easy.

The solution was to have everybody in the org call everybody on their paid list constantly, or writing letters. I refused to call people up, so I had to write letters. They were very brief, let me tell you, because you kept a stat on Letters Written. Hahahah! The evil bastard... AHHHHHH!

OK, thanks, I feel batter now.

As I said, brief;



'Dear Dupe McCultness,

You should come in and do the SHSBC right now.

Sincincely,

Stup McConly'



At least that's how I remember it.

 

[Leon-2]

The Sea Org song I knew went


"Safi-i-i-i-i,

How I love you,

How I love you,

My dear old Safi ! ! !

 

[uncover]

.....
Does anyone know when the purif was introduced to the public? It would be shortly after this period.

Choose the date you like most:

HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE
Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex

HCO BULLETIN OF 6 FEBRUARY 1978RA
REVISED 16 MARCH 1978
RE-REVISED 4 DECEMBER 1979

(Cancels: HCOB 6 Feb 78R-1 Addition of
16 Mar 78, “LSD and the Sweat Program—
Addition”; HCOB 30 Apr 78, “The Sweat
Program Further Data.” Re-revises and
re-titles the original bulletin of this
date, “LSD and the Sweat Program.”)
(Revisions not printed in a different type style)

THE PURIFICATION RUNDOWN
REPLACES THE SWEAT PROGRAM

​

.....

 

[programmer_guy]

<snip>

It seems that although they could pressure people into paying for the Saint Hill Special Briefing Course, getting them to actually show up in town, sit down and be subjected to the hours and hours of reading Hubbard or listening to his taped voice wasn't so easy.

<snip>

When I was an HPCSC intern for SHSBC at old ASHO on Temple Street (1970s) the SHSBC course room was always packed with students. (Even the jazz-fusion musician Chick Corea was on course, in the back.)

 

[Gib]

I Googled. Surprisingly, it wasn't that easy to find the dates but I did.



http://cofsexit.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-real-reason-people-leave.html

The next doc is extremely interesting. It is a legal doc, a court testimony. Check this out:



http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/bill-franks-witness-tampering.html

Then later in the same link:



Wow. He was only ED INT for one year. I'd thought he was on longer than that. After that, he was declared SP (the Declare is at the same link) Hard to believe Kerry Gleeson survived longer as ED INT than Bill Franks, but he did.

--------------------------

ADDED: I just found a reference to the mission Bill Franks did at ASHO-D:


(also from the same link above)

Hope this helps clarify. It seems that in December 1979, he completed his ASHO-D mission and then went directly to the "Senior Management Director International" and then to ED Int - both appointments were personally by LRH. Then he was gone.

Not to derail, but I never saw that website before that you linked http://cofsexit.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-real-reason-people-leave.html

In reading it, we bring up the O/W's do not cause blows from scientology, but ARCX's do as Hubbard tells Mayo and Bill Franks.

The two comments by Michael Tilse and Thetagal are spot on and confirm O/W's do not cause blows from scientology with hidden proof that is hard to find or connect the dots.

But I want to point out something in that linked article, namely Glen Samuels says this:

"Similar to Bill, Glenn lived and worked aboard the Flagship Apollo where he was also personally trained as a counselor by Hubbard. Glenn left Scientology in 1982 after seeing Scientology’s corruption and greed firsthand. His response to Bill's remarks was that "it makes sense; did you leave because you committed some huge crime? Probably not. You left because of abuse, human rights violations, or some other form of harassment."

As I highlight in red, I think that is partially true. And those reasons are true, no doubt. But other reasons could be a person saw the scam right away and left. Or a person saw there were no clears, and left, (in the Heinlein Campbell letters I posted about, Heinlein saw this and never got involved although he was thoroughly tried by Campbell to get him involved),

and then there are people who blow from staff because they can not survive on little or no pay,

there are more reasons, I'm sure.

 

[Rmack]

Choose the date you like most:

I can confidently say with 'Uncle Duke'


"Thank God I dropped acid!"

 

[Rmack]

...

 

[Rmack]

When I was an HPCSC intern for SHSBC at old ASHO on Temple Street (1970s) the SHSBC course room was always packed with students. (Even the jazz-fusion musician Chick Corea was on course, in the back.)

Well, let me tell you, when I worked for ASHO Day, it was struggling. The could sell it, but people didn't like it when they started to do the course. Do some homework. It was horrible!

 

[programmer_guy]

Well, let me tell you, when I worked for ASHO Day, it was struggling. The could sell it, but people didn't like it when they started to do the course. Do some homework. It was horrible!

1. I don't need to do any homework on this particular item. I was there.
2. I accept your comments for when you were there.


BTW, this Spring 2016 marks my 40th anniversary since I blew from the cult of Scientology.
I couldn't resist making this comment any longer.

 

[JustSheila]

When I was an HPCSC intern for SHSBC at old ASHO on Temple Street (1970s) the SHSBC course room was always packed with students. (Even the jazz-fusion musician Chick Corea was on course, in the back.)

Huh. Didn't know that. Well add the purchase of Big Blue and moving all the orgs into it to the long, long, long list of L Wrong Hubbard's major fuckups then.

Congrats on your 'Blown from scientology' anniversary, Programmer Guy. Hip hip hooray! Three cheers for losing your thetan!

 

[Dulloldfart]

Does anyone know when the purif was introduced to the public? It would be shortly after this period.

HCOB 6 February 1978 RD THE PURIFICATION RUNDOWN REPLACES THE SWEAT PROGRAM appeared a week or two after that publication date, from memory.

I was very pleased to see it. Running several miles a day in Sussex in mid-winter on the Sweat Program diet in those rubber suits (or black garbage bags to begin with) where the sweat pooled up in the sleeves was no joke.

Paul

 

[Enthetan]

Well, let me tell you, when I worked for ASHO Day, it was struggling. The could sell it, but people didn't like it when they started to do the course. Do some homework. It was horrible!

I did Level A of the SHSBC in the 1980's. Getting through the course wasn't bad. What turned me off was the endless pressure to put in more hours on course, and the difficulty in getting CSW's approved to get off course to handle things. So they got me to finish A, while killing any enthusiasm to start B and subject myself to the pressure again.

 

[Rmack]

I did Level A of the SHSBC in the 1980's. Getting through the course wasn't bad. What turned me off was the endless pressure to put in more hours on course, and the difficulty in getting CSW's approved to get off course to handle things. So they got me to finish A, while killing any enthusiasm to start B and subject myself to the pressure again.

Yeah, they were all slaves to stats, and expected you to be, too.

 

[Rmack]

BTW, this Spring 2016 marks my 40th anniversary since I blew from the cult of Scientology.
I couldn't resist making this comment any longer.

Cool.

Do the nightmares end after that long?

 

[Rmack]

HCOB 6 February 1978 RD THE PURIFICATION RUNDOWN REPLACES THE SWEAT PROGRAM appeared a week or two after that publication date, from memory.

I was very pleased to see it. Running several miles a day in Sussex in mid-winter on the Sweat Program diet in those rubber suits (or black garbage bags to begin with) where the sweat pooled up in the sleeves was no joke.

Paul

Now I'm confused again, unless it was earlier than I thought. But, these events being over thirty years ago, it's possible.

 

[JustSheila]

Cool.

Do the nightmares end after that long?

Oh Rmack. I'm sorry to hear you're still having the nightmares. I had them for years, too.

IMHO, they end when you've faced what you feared most and overcome it in your personal life so it no longer has power over you.

You're doing well. You're starting to talk about your personal experiences in scn now.

PM me about the nightmares if you feel like you'd rather talk privately.