The 'Diana' formerly the 'Enchantress'

[Rmack]

Oh Rmack. I'm sorry to hear you're still having the nightmares. I had them for years, too.

IMHO, they end when you've faced what you feared most and overcome it in your personal life so it no longer has power over you.

You're doing well. You're starting to talk about your personal experiences in scn now.

PM me about the nightmares if you feel like you'd rather talk privately.

Don't jump to conclusions.

Although I say nightmares, it just means unexpected dreams. I have lots of fun with mine.

 

[dchoiceisalwaysrs]

I can just imagine that letter out was probably counted as a letter in as it was returned as bad address underliverable. Then, it was routed to the SHSBC admin to put in in the students in basket, where it was retrieved by none other than D Macultness after he put his SHSBC stats up on his graph for the night.

Response on opening and reading it. WTF, ahhhhhhhhhh WTF checks incorrect spelling of name, transposed numbers of street address and then peruses the flyer insert advertising. COME DO THE SHSBC at ASHO delivered by the most competent Sea Org staff!!!

Resulting 'cognition' We are really getting the planet cleared fast.

I think another revealing anecdote about this very time we're talking about, is the fact that the low stat of the two I talked about was almost always Value of Services Delivered.

It seems that although they could pressure people into paying for the Saint Hill Special Briefing Course, getting them to actually show up in town, sit down and be subjected to the hours and hours of reading Hubbard or listening to his taped voice wasn't so easy.

The solution was to have everybody in the org call everybody on their paid list constantly, or writing letters. I refused to call people up, so I had to write letters. They were very brief, let me tell you, because you kept a stat on Letters Written. Hahahah! The evil bastard... AHHHHHH!

OK, thanks, I feel batter now.

As I said, brief;



'Dear Dupe McCultness,

You should come in and do the SHSBC right now.

Sincincely,

Stup McConly'



At least that's how I remember it.

 

[dchoiceisalwaysrs]

Yep, so typical of El Con's ideology...state something as the Absolute truth and claim it as such no critical analysis permitted or it's find your MU etc.. the making /training of mental slaves to be used to get the stats up and demonstrate hubbard's con to have his slaves satisfy his lust for Power and Money

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As I highlight in red, I think that is partially true. And those reasons are true, no doubt. But other reasons could be a person saw the scam right away and left. Or a person saw there were no clears, and left, (in the Heinlein Campbell letters I posted about, Heinlein saw this and never got involved although he was thoroughly tried by Campbell to get him involved),

and then there are people who blow from staff because they can not survive on little or no pay,

there are more reasons, I'm sure.

 

[Boojuum]

Ya . . . one of the insanities of the Hubbard gig and his giving inordinate powers to these "OTs" is that the power went to their heads and that power was expressed from the "dark side."
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The culture not only tolerated abuse of power but insisted upon it. One's personal goals were snuffed out in the indoctrination process which frequently lasted for years.

The COS was a strange place. On the one hand, a great deal of effort was leveled at getting you to comprehend whatever LRH wrote. On the other hand, outside study or careers were typically ridiculed as subordinate to Scientology. Individuals goals, whether to take a day off or see a show or make some money or raise a family or embark on a non-Scieno career were discouraged heavily. Fully indoctrinated Scienos would be eagerly abusive if personal goals would get in the way of doing more for the COS.

The abuse was their solution to your personal goals. The abuse seems to have become their go-to tool. More RPF, more time in "the Hole", more lower conditions, more beans and rice, less sleep, less pay, less libs, less CSP time, less food, less time off, more overboarding. Real LEADERSHIP would have ended these practices quickly. Yet the LEADER was setting the crazy example and the new leader is continuing the crazy example and the crazy-ness keeps being okay.

Punishment is a key part of Scientology and I think a major reason for the shrinking numbers. People don't like being punished or ridiculed.

Scientology makes enemies.

 

[Rmack]

For 'JustSheila'

Sheila,

Thank you for your concern. I have chronicled these dreams before on this board, but apparently the logs don't go back that far.

I'll try to relate them as best as I remember. If I have any trouble, I still have my dream journals. Somewhere.

I was very deep in a Rosicrucian order studying the Tarot at the time, so be advised that it sure looks like Tarot symbolism had a big something to do with the images in the two dreams I'm going to post here. I could say lots more about this, but it would derail the purpose of this post.

The first dream was like an amusement park thrill ride. We were special forces troops, flying in on a helicopter in full battle gear, which curiously enough, now that I just think about it, portended my later involvement in paintball games.

The 'Steward' or the leader of the order I was in was the commander in this dream. He was giving us a pep talk. "you've been training for this all your lives! You can do it!" stuff like that.

Get this; we arrived at what looked to me like the parking structure near PAC in Los Angeles, and repeled down ropes from the hovering choppers.

We went down the street which is now called 'L Ron Hubbard blvd' which I didn't know at the time of the dream. We charged in the front door, and started the most freakin' realistic combat simulation I've ever been through, INCLUDING all the computer games I've played, and those are extensive.

The people in the space that was previously occupied by both ASHO day and foundation, was in this dream held by Viet Cong looking personnel. Oriental gentlemen (I didn't say 'worthy'!) wearing black pajamas armed with AK 47's.

It was intense. I was better than Rambo on the best day he ever had. Auto-hosing rooms full of dudes, after tossing in grenades, the whole nine yards.

In the dream, I fought my way up the exact duplicate of the stairs to my former office when I was the examiner, backed up by my team. It was actually a closet, and right outside of it, was an obviously high-ranking looking target holding this blond haired woman with a pistol to her head.

I pulled out my pistol and shot him through the forehead, grabbed the blond, and shouted over my headset 'GO! GO! GO!'

Exfil was exciting and successful, and the Steward was back, praising us for a job well done on the ride home!

All this was mind-blowingly realistic and what they call nowadays 'high-def', but it was my dream before any of this technology came out.

It seemed to illustrate the liberation I was experiencing studying another occult tradition. It was freeing me from holds that still existed in my sub-con.

The next dream interesting, too. And it happened that same night, after I woke up and wrote the first one in my dream log, and fell back to sleep.



OK, if you don't know anything about the Tarot, let me share some basics;

Anytime you see a male figure in the Tarot, it represents one of three aspects, if you will, of self consciousness. Anytime you see a female figure, it represents an aspect of sub-consciousness. Any time you see a winged figure (even a bat-winged one, tee-hee) it represents some aspect of 'superconciousness' or 'intuition', if you will.

Another of the basic guidelines is that black hair represents passive, and blond represents active. So, a blond women represents active subconscious. Otherwise known as creative imagination.

 

[JustSheila]

Thanks, Rmack.

Pretty exciting dream! My own were also seriously high adrenaline, running from scientologists who were enemies types of dreams. Yours had actual combat though - cool! I can see that would be a lot of fun, especially if you win the prize and get away.

Yes, I know Tarot. I used to use them for psychological purposes - I didn't get into detailed symbolism so much as each representing a certain character, action, outcome or state of living. It was easier to use the cards as a simple representation of a concept and put them together that way to see a whole. (Haven't done that in a long time, though.)

If the dreams aren't bothering you, then enjoy them.

 

[Rmack]

Thanks, Rmack.

Pretty exciting dream! My own were also seriously high adrenaline, running from scientologists who were enemies types of dreams. Yours had actual combat though - cool! I can see that would be a lot of fun, especially if you win the prize and get away.

Yes, I know Tarot. I used to use them for psychological purposes - I didn't get into detailed symbolism so much as each representing a certain character, action, outcome or state of living. It was easier to use the cards as a simple representation of a concept and put them together that way to see a whole. (Haven't done that in a long time, though.)

If the dreams aren't bothering you, then enjoy them.

Ready or not, here come the Second Dream;

I'm flying a dream representation of the Cessna 150 that I trained on in my youth in the Navy Flying Club.

I kid you not. I took flying lessons back then.

In this dream, I saw a Bridge coming up that I had to land on. I'll give you a minute to laugh, without totally puking, OK?

Better now? Good.

I called upon all the skills I'd learned both in real aircraft and simulators, and put it down on the bridge! Understand that this was BEFORE a long time of very instructive flight simulator computer time. In short, it was a prophetic dream.

The enemies on this bridge were different. I claim full discloser saying they were black skinned, holding a black haired woman relative of mine.

OK, these dreams get weird, as I'm sure most people know. There was diving and strafing of this bridge involved before the landing.

I jumped out of my Cessna, ran at the dude holding my Black Haired Woman hostage, blew him away with my pistol, grabbed her, ran back to the aircraft, shoved her in, and started to taxi.

 

[Rmack]

I woke up for a second time that night, and made a second entry in my dream journal.

I felt so much better afterwards! LOL!

 

[Rmack]

follow through on what I learned from this to figure it out.

The black haired woman is passive sub-conscious. Understand this as Memory.

 

[Rmack]

Thanks, Rmack.

Pretty exciting dream! My own were also seriously high adrenaline, running from scientologists who were enemies types of dreams. Yours had actual combat though - cool! I can see that would be a lot of fun, especially if you win the prize and get away.

Yes, I know Tarot. I used to use them for psychological purposes - I didn't get into detailed symbolism so much as each representing a certain character, action, outcome or state of living. It was easier to use the cards as a simple representation of a concept and put them together that way to see a whole. (Haven't done that in a long time, though.)

If the dreams aren't bothering you, then enjoy them.

If it's not fun, It's not Qabalah!

 

[Gizmo]

When I was at flag in the early eighties, there was a model of this ship in the lobby of the Fort Harrison.

Do any of you remember this, and would you like to hear a really hair-raising story about it, if you haven't already from my former posts?

BTW, I mean the real boat, not the model.

All I know for sure is that a friend of mine in the SO was asked to be involved in restoring that hulk. He took one look at it & ran. It was very far gone, would take extensive work that would cost many times what the old girl could ever be worth - he figured to get in that project would lead to a declare for all involved. No idea what became of it, but, at one point it was far beyond salvageable.

Lots like the " let's sponsor a race care " programs were.

The damn thing was a tub on it's finest day anyway.

 

[RogerB]

Mason told me that it began its career as a North Sea fishing vessel . . . he stated that on a trip to Florida (possibly down from the Carolinas) that what appeared to be pirates approached him and he turned it about and threatened to ram them with its "high steel bow" . . . and that scared the shit out of the assailants . . .

 

[Gizmo]

Mason told me that it began its career as a North Sea fishing vessel . . . he stated that on a trip to Florida (possibly down from the Carolinas) that what appeared to be pirates approached him and he turned it about and threatened to ram them with its "high steel bow" . . . and that scared the shit out of the assailants . . .

North Sea Fishing Vessel makes sense as it looks like a working power boat with sails to add stability. Sort of puts it on the silly side of a true motorsailer .

 

[Mick Wenlock]

Mason told me that it began its career as a North Sea fishing vessel . . . he stated that on a trip to Florida (possibly down from the Carolinas) that what appeared to be pirates approached him and he turned it about and threatened to ram them with its "high steel bow" . . . and that scared the shit out of the assailants . . .

I sailed on North Sea trawlers out of Lowestoft for two years - I would have to see a pic of the Diana to see what kind of fishing boat it would have been - anyone got any? Any details on size?

 

[uncover]

I sailed on North Sea trawlers out of Lowestoft for two years - I would have to see a pic of the Diana to see what kind of fishing boat it would have been - anyone got any? Any details on size?

Here you go for the desired pictures... (to page 2 of this thread):

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...-Enchantress&p=1097728&viewfull=1#post1097728

 

[pkatz]

I sailed on North Sea trawlers out of Lowestoft for two years - I would have to see a pic of the Diana to see what kind of fishing boat it would have been - anyone got any? Any details on size?

Mason was talking out his ass about yet another SO vessel, Athena, which was a North Sea trawler and served the SO in Denmark as Qual station ship for the AO there.

The pirate story? This seafarer rates it as a yarn (bs).

 

[Mick Wenlock]

Mason was talking out his ass about yet another SO vessel, Athena, which was a North Sea trawler and served the SO in Denmark as Qual station ship for the AO there.

The pirate story? This seafarer rates it as a yarn (bs).

aha - yes I remember hearing about the athena from Doug Larsen and from my wife. Thanks.

 

[Rmack]

aha - yes I remember hearing about the athena from Doug Larsen and from my wife. Thanks.

What about the Athena?

 

[Rmack]

I can't emphasize this enough;

These dreams, in addition to happening all in one night, were WAY more intense than any other dreams I had EVER had up to that point. They were in full color, high resolution mode that I had heretofore never seen. I woke up absolutely flabbergasted. Both times!

I attributed it to my current studies of a much more powerful esoteric tradition than our former cult taking over my sub-consciousness.

 

[RogerB]

Mason was talking out his ass about yet another SO vessel, Athena, which was a North Sea trawler and served the SO in Denmark as Qual station ship for the AO there.

The pirate story? This seafarer rates it as a yarn (bs).

Actually, at the time, pirating of leisure vessels was occurring in the Caribbean by drug smuggler types . . . a google search should yield info.

Remember, there was also a scientist murdered by pirates while on a science vessel in the area of the entrance to the Amazon . . . the whole scene up and down the Atlantic coast outside of US control was subject to it.

R