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Steven James

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Teril,

the truth of the matter is, than in none of the emails I received from either yourself or the other two people had anyone else copied into them (visibly).

As for 'M' now receiving auditing from the south group. Well that is all I really wanted anyway. Despite the fact that I was dissapointed with the way he behaved in front of you, I still had a lot of affinity for him. My discussion over the phone with him was the only time anyone has spoken to me and known with absolute knowingness who I am and where I am and talked to me at my case level. Despite the perceived eccentricities, he is a very wise man with some great knowledge. I always felt he would be a great contributor which is why I never really gave up on him and his 2-D. I even said to Na at the end, that he would be a good person to start a group with.

When I suggested bringing the 2-D along at the end, you guys were very panicky about it. You were even shocked at my suggestion that someone out there had agreed to audit him? And now he's receiving auditing from the group?

This is social tone and desperation. I am sure that a recovery effort on the other guys will now be put in place, whereas if I hadn't had kicked up a fuss, it would never have happened because they are PTS etc etc. Having them recovered was what I wanted but was given a list of what was wrong with them instead.

.... Oh and M called me the other morning several times letting me know about getting auditing. It was not his usual tone. I detected something in the voice. After the meeting with you, I know he nearly threw the towel in on getting auditing. I am not suprised he is now receiving auditing from Victoria. The double sidedness of it all just stinks. (And not on his behalf either). You wanted absolutely nothing to do with M's 2-D, let alone him.

Illusionness, I agree with you. Like I said before. 'Go in, get what you need and get out'. When I say 'Scientology' I refer to the body of knowledge applied by a group using that title (as distinguished from some data and other independents etc etc). You are wrong about Teril, I do not need his help. Ralph however, I have slowly grown to respect. He gives across some good data, sharp observations and trys new things. Alan, also I am finding has some excellent observations. He knows a lot more than he lets on. I have a greater understanding of why these two operate as they do.

My intuition told me who to trust and it has turned out to be true. I will never go against it in the future. Lesson learnt.
 
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Tanstaafl

Crusader
Alanzo said:
Who was the babysitter, then?

(opportunity for a thread diversion!)
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My vote is for Nigella Lawson! :biglove:

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Mick Wenlock

Mick Wenlock

Admin Emeritus (retired)
tanstaafl said:
Ha ha! :duh:

I should have said "fixation on a couple of things". My bad.
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I always liked the quote from Alas Smith and Jones where Mel is talking to Gryff and says something like

"Back in school being beaten by an oldeer woman with a leather bound copy of Winnie the Pooh. You know - things you would pay good money for when you grow up."

:hysterical:
 
RolandRB

RolandRB

Rest in Peace
Steven James said:
Recently myself and several friends departed the Freezone.

I believe that there is a cognition that anyone can have when enrolled in any group where they became ethically and spiritually more advanced than those controlling/processing them. I have experienced this with the Freezone.

A good example is the lie on which the Freezone has been built. The Freezone is built on "preserving" 'Standard LRH Tech'. The tech was not LRH's to standardise. The 'tech' for the most part came from a much higher source. A PC has given me the OK to mention this and I am sure many other Auditors have run this incident, as I have found it more than once. It is of a cliff where beings are going over the top. Down on the other side is a cave with a bright white light in it. Beings who want to go in are warned about it, but some go in anyway. Once in the white light, the being controlling it on the other side is Hubbard! When withdrawing from the white lights, the beings realised they have something stuck to their backs like a bug and cannot get it off. What is in that cave is evil.

Caves and hills are connected to the Rosicrucians and those who may have survived the previous (biblical?) catastrophe and hence where many secret societies and white supremacy programs come from. John wrote revelations on a cave on Patmos, Zeus lanched his attack from a cave. Hubbard, was a black magician who channelled his data. That data was given to mankind to release it from the trap. Not to create great wealth and fame for Hubbard or any secret group. The data was channelled from the Akashic record and is not exclusive to Hubbards track- hence it is someone else's data and does not belong to him. Other bits of Scientology are of Hubbards own design or borrowed from fairly popular sources. I am not suprised that Cruise is building a Bunker. Spiritually finding your exit from the trap is of know concern to Cruise and RTC, when you can physically survive a catastrophe and replant the vine once things have settled down! More super race programs I assume and black magic.

So, I have had this cognition about the Freezone, know longer need it and I am not 'OT7'. The best way to go it, is to go it alone. These groups were built on deceit and lies. The road to freedom is the road to truth. I was not suprised when Michael Moore of the International Freezone Association put the 'Zeitgesit' movie into the qual library which contains it's 'oneness' message (contested by Hubbard actually if you look it up in the tech dictionary) and claimed that the biblical Jesus was only an allegory (the Zeitgeist version is very much like Blavatskys- a woman who pushed a racial doctrine which possibly inspired the holocaust). When you know the true story of jesus- it's amazing the parallels between him and Hubbard, a good side, but a side of betrayal also. Michael Moore refused to have some pro-tech data (from a book) in the Qual Library is it claimed that LRH was not source and that would demolish the whole foundations of his organisation and what he does to put people in doubt about the Church!

There is definitely a 'oneness' and communistic feel to the Freezone. I was once publicly diminished for not having an 'upstat' haircut by my Auditor. PURE EVIL. Once you get over the 'social tone' pushed out by Teril and the merry little club, you begin to realise there is absolutely no ethics. Definitely a case of 'too many chiefs and not enough indians'.

I will not persuade people to avoid the Freezone. Someone warned me about her own experiences and I ignored them and found that she was, in the end, correct! My own experiences served me well and I got to finish a cycle I wanted to finish. Own personal observation gave me better judgement at the end.

I found that the indians in the my Freezone group were all really wise aesthetic people. I was sent a list picking them off one by one explaining why they had blown or were not suitable for study. It was all rubbish and I have spoken to several since and it turns out that one of these reasons on that list is a flat out lie. In the end there was only me and one other student left sat in Teril's front bedroom. I was being asked to bring more people to the group. In 1 and a half years I was the only student to complete any course (Student hat re-tread) and start another one and I had several blocks of auditing and went to switzerland twice for full time training (three weeks). Once I tired of the suppression and no ARC, I decided to go know more. I was twice called to be handled and started receiving emails from the other UK group promoting services by Clive Nicol who had told me to tell my upsets to 'an auditor' (ie my observations were not true by overts and witholds).

I tired of the bullshit. i was only being flowed ARC because the amount of time and money I was willing to contribute, none of the other guys seem to have been called back, despite them all being bright intelligent people. They too spotted the tone level and out ethics and realised that this was not a priority.

The audacity of Clive Nicol is unreal. I was actually shouted at 'you look fucking ridiculous' by my Auditor. Well, I am a young man and I love music and art and I can have any damn haircut I choose. The Auditor (Dominic O'Brien) also broke PC confidentiality by blurting out session details of mine from my back track that disagreed with LRH as souce. He turned up for a session unshaved with his belly hanging out and wearing sandals. Maybe he looks fucking ridiculous.

To think I thought this group had some great knowledge or higher level of beingness and could help me? I trusted these people with the most confidential data.

I would like to thank Emma, Bea Kiddo and all the others for putting their stories on here and being there for me to read. I feel so bright and so much stronger and have far more compassion for people now I have left this evil lot behind. To anyone on michael moore's list, if you want to read OT stuff, you don't have to wait to get to the level to have the 'privilege' of being given access to the data in his qual library. You can google it and get it all or read L.Kins book. Keeping it private is all about control and suppressing that cognition I had.

So Teril, what happened to the money we all paid for study?
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I read this thread from beginning to end as it was on 04 Dec 2007. I have to wonder what the VFP is of auditing these days. Is it somebody who howls and barks like a dog?
 
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Family Man

New Member
Freezone as an alternative

I like the idea of free enterprise and don't like the idea of being declared supressive by Albertsons for complaining about Albertsons and going to Publix. There are many things being sold in the marketplace and the Freezone to me is a statement of Free Enterprise. I personally believe that the power of a spirit to create his own universe is senior, and what ever it takes to get one to see this is all that is needed. I realized that I need another terminal to allign with and play a game and to me the lesson of "the birds and the bees" teaches me to find a woman and procreate. It's a simple game. The freezone to me is just another allignment group and possibily if we all created a group based on real truth and what we really want(possibily self-determinisn) we could all allign with that. Maybe that is what we are doing in this group. I watched "what the bleep, down the rabbit hole" and liked that more than XXX years in "that other thing" called "standard tech". I don't know, I guess it is all an experience and we all came out on top. Why go back into it again for the sake of trying to make it work. It's something to do I guess. It's ok with me. Have fun!:happydance:
 
nw2394

nw2394

Silver Meritorious Patron
RolandRB said:
I read this thread from beginning to end as it was on 04 Dec 2007. I have to wonder what the VFP is of auditing these days. Is it somebody who howls and barks like a dog?
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I do not know you. You speak in the manner of critic, yet you use Scientologese, "VFP". Hmm....

Nick
 
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