The Hole on Wikipedia

ChrisO

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I've not written much about Scientology for ages, but occasionally one comes across something so outrageous that it just deserves to be written about... hence a new article on Wikipedia on "The Hole" at Gold Base in California. It's in draft at the moment - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:prioryman/The_Hole . I'd be interested to know what people think of it.

I'm also looking for pictures of Gold Base that I can use in the article. To comply with Wikipedia's rules, they must be pictures that are free to use - preferably pictures that you've taken yourself and for which you can give permission. I've seen some photos by Chuck Beatty on Flickr that could be useful; does anyone know how to contact him?
 

HelluvaHoax!

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That would be cool for "The Hole" to have its own place on Wiki!

Suggest you look at Tony Ortega's website (Underground Bunker) for photos which he posted without any problem.
 

Purple Rain

Crusader
I've not written much about Scientology for ages, but occasionally one comes across something so outrageous that it just deserves to be written about... hence a new article on Wikipedia on "The Hole" at Gold Base in California. It's in draft at the moment - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Prioryman/The_Hole . I'd be interested to know what people think of it.

I'm also looking for pictures of Gold Base that I can use in the article. To comply with Wikipedia's rules, they must be pictures that are free to use - preferably pictures that you've taken yourself and for which you can give permission. I've seen some photos by Chuck Beatty on Flickr that could be useful; does anyone know how to contact him?

I just read it quickly, but I think it's fantastic.
 

Claire Swazey

Spokeshole, fence sitter
I've not written much about Scientology for ages, but occasionally one comes across something so outrageous that it just deserves to be written about... hence a new article on Wikipedia on "The Hole" at Gold Base in California. It's in draft at the moment - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Prioryman/The_Hole . I'd be interested to know what people think of it.

I'm also looking for pictures of Gold Base that I can use in the article. To comply with Wikipedia's rules, they must be pictures that are free to use - preferably pictures that you've taken yourself and for which you can give permission. I've seen some photos by Chuck Beatty on Flickr that could be useful; does anyone know how to contact him?

Chris! Very nice to see you here. :cheers2:
 

NoName

A Girl Has No Name
I just read it quickly, but I think it's fantastic.

Same here. I would add the name Heber Jentzsch (with a link, of course, to his Wikipedia page) where you say "including Scientology International's own President".

Also, it would be really cool if you could hit up Mike Rinder for before and after pics. I know Tony has posted some, and they were pretty dramatic. But I realize you can't use Tony's (they probably belong to VV and not Tony anyway) and you have to worry about wikipedia's photo policy. That's why I am suggesting hitting him up directly.
 
Just a thought...what about "google images"? Are they all public domain or what?

Good job on the article, keep up the good work...:thumbsup: maybe add links to already existing online stories of people's personal experiences with being incarcerated by the Cult of Scientology there... :no:
 

ChrisO

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Just a thought...what about "google images"? Are they all public domain or what?

Good job on the article, keep up the good work...:thumbsup: maybe add links to already existing online stories of people's personal experiences with being incarcerated by the Cult of Scientology there... :no:

Thanks for the feedback, everyone!

No, unfortunately Google Images are definitely not all PD. However, some kind people have donated images for the article, which you can now see live at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hole_(Scientology). Enjoy!

Time for me to go back to lurking again... :coolwink:
 

ChrisO

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There's no point adding the full list - that would just be plagiarising from Tony and most of the names aren't particularly known outside Scientology, I think. The list is linked from the article in any case.

The article itself has been a big hit; would you believe it got over 103,000 views just yesterday? (Thank Reddit for that!) http://stats.grok.se/en/latest/The_Hole_%28Scientology%29
 

Disinfected

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Re: Wikipedia and the hole

Wikipedia has had a detailed account of "the hole" which is in danger of being deleted. If you have information about "the hole" please go to their site and make a statement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Hole_(Scientology)&oldid=535381140

I had to sign up or register before I could submit my comments and reasons that the article regarding the hole should not be deleted.

That is an older version of the page. The article is in no danger and is currently being scheduled for a blurb on the front page.
 

ChrisO

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Re: Wikipedia and the hole

That is an older version of the page. The article is in no danger and is currently being scheduled for a blurb on the front page.

Just to second this, there is NO NEED to post any further statements opposing deletion. The deletion nomination was declined very quickly and the editor who posted it (a Scientologist, by the way) has been banned from editing any more Scientology-related articles.
 
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