The "Key" to Life

Little Bear Victor

Silver Meritorious Patron
Build a better Bridge -- or at least a more profitable one

The people in charge of compiling KTL and LOC (Ray Mithoff and Sue Koon) were declared SP by DM for "screwing up the compilation" and are in the SP Room at Int. Ray Mithoff is there for "screwing up" all kinds of other compilations, too, including the grades, and worse. Despite this, DM has not cancelled any of the "screwed up" courses and services but is letting people go through them. As a matter of fact, pretty much the only things that are not screwed up (in DM's view) are PTS/SP course and the basics, because he has personally compiled them.
KTL and LOC (as well as almost the entire Bridge) has been due revision for having been compiled out-tech. Again, this is DM saying so, not anyone else.
Still, he is letting people pay full prices for services he knows are flawed and off-source and which he wants to have recompiled to be on-source. Just like the basics. Really. And this is really virtually the entire Bridge and all materials save for the ones that have come out since the release of the Materials Guide Chart.
Look forward to the re-release of services and courses from Purification Rundown and Objectives, up through the grades, as well as all materials that haven't been re-released since the Materials Guide Chart came out. Not only in the church but in all the sectors as well: ABLE, WISE, SMI, I HELP. It is all being recompiled and redesigned. (At least in theory, for DM has also busted almost every person capable of compilation for "screwing it up" -- which could be considered stupid in anyone else's mind if he really wants to redo everything). Not to mention the new MK VIII Ultra meters gathering dust in the warehouse.

Hmm. A few ideas for picket signs, meant especially for Scientologists:
"DM wants to rebuild the Bridge, as the current one isn't working" or
"Golden Age of Tech II is coming. Get ready to redo your services!" or
"Get your money ready for the next re-release!" or, how about
"DM = new source of Scientology"
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
Dulloldfart, it sounds like a load of horsesh*t. Seriously.

OK, fine, for the illiterate, maybe it has some value. I know if I was put on it, I'd revolt. 'Course then I'd be on endless ethics cycles. :grouch:

Here's another write-up I did three years ago on KTL. Overall, I'm glad I did it, but in terms of bang for the buck in time and effort, it probably wasn't very viable.

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> What's the benefit to KTL as opposed to
> simply having a decent education and knowing how to use a dictionary?

Someone asked me this privately, and since it should be of general interest
I am giving a public answer.

Before I started KTL I considered that I had had a decent education and
knew how to use a dictionary. I will answer the question based on my
personal experience, not on my observation of before/after differences
with others.

I wasn't particularly excited about doing KTL at all. It was ordered
that ALL the staff do it as soon as possible, and it was made uncomfortable
if one didn't, i.e. one was looked upon with disfavor by personnel enhancement
people and seniors if one wasn't on KTL. About the only acceptable exception was
to be out in the boonies on a long mission, or to be auditing daily and as fast as
possible on some uninterruptible action like OT3 or NOTs.

I assume the seniors had silly, undoable program targets they got yelled
at daily on, like "Get all staff started ASAP" and they couldn't comply
until it had occurred, even though 95% of the staff were on it. And *their*
seniors would have had similar targets and heat to get it done. All
the way to the top.

I was mid-OT4 for about 10 years. I started it around 1980 or so with
Julie Price, a NOTs auditor at AOSHUK before she eloped with Bob Ainsworth
(I think it was Bob). I later had a co-audit-type session or maybe two.
It didn't get finished at SH.

I moved to LA and I didn't "make it go right" to continue with it until
there was a lot of pressure to get everyone onto KTL. I finally helped
set up a little staff co-audit on OT4 for a few weeks before someone
decided it was out-tech and stopped it, but I just got it completed in
time. This was a routine application of the standard SO policy of "'Standard
CofS' auditing is better than 'Non-Standard CofS' auditing, but no auditing
at all is best." It took me 10 years to get maybe 10 hours of auditing
on OT4.

So everyone was happy that I attested OT4 and routed onto KTL, including
me. Nobody except my auditor cared, including me, if I got anything
out of those final sessions. (They're all cleaned up now).

I spent about 100 hours as a pc on CT1 and about 10 hours on CT2. CT1
was discovered in a 30-minute review to have been overrun by about 80
hours. It was repaired in the same review. CT2 was fine. I got some
gains from both CT1 and CT2, even though I wasn't really PTS and was
well-trained and thought I knew the theory of what I was being audited
on (I didn't know the EPs). Including the couple of months' wait for
a review, which I finally received from an ITO trainee after exchanging
some high-crime checkouts with him, all that took me maybe six months
part-time, some of it at 5 hours a day. If the HCOBs I studied in the
KTL delivery course had been followed, I would have been sent to review
after about 25 hours instead of being sent out on another walk and the
whole cycle would have taken maybe three weeks. It then took another
couple of months to deliver CT1/2 on another, which was relatively uneventful.

6C (small common words) and 9A (grammar) took me about another year.
I got more out of 6C than 9A. I learned some stuff on 9A, but not much
that I didn't already know.

At the end I noticed that reading something generally comprehensible-
-bulletin, novel, newspaper etc.--was pretty much effortless, and any
mu's jumped straight off the page and held my attention. Similarly with
listening to anyone speak. This was a change from before I had done
the course, even though beforehand I didn't think I had any trouble reading
and understanding things.

I suspect this comes from doing 6C. The little words don't get noticed
much because they are ubiquitous, and because they really are mu's if
they haven't been thoroughly, thoroughly cleared. So, because they are
everywhere, one goes around in a permanent mental fog all the time.
I had never noticed it before completing KTL, even though I had done
that whole little-word trip as detailed in the [earlier] post
and considered myself very educated and literate. It's
like living in LA and not noticing the air quality until you fly up out
of it in a plane and see the orange-brown sludge you've been breathing
for years and never noticed.

I can imagine others less literate or with less prior case gain got more
out of the course than I did. For someone who is genuinely out of communication
with the world around him because he does not understand what he sees or hears
and cannot communicate clearly his thoughts to others, the name "Key to Life" is
not a misnomer or PR gimmick.

The CT processing on the course is not duplicated by other processing.
The whole small common word trip is not duplicated on any other course--
the definitions are clearer and more precise than in a regular dictionary
and the clearing of them is done far more thoroughly than just sitting
down with a dictionary and "clearing to full conceptual understanding"
each of the sixty words that I listed out in the previous post. I found
9A, the grammar section, is more thorough in the twinned word-clearing
and drilling than any normal grammar course, and again the material is
laid out well, but it wasn't as different as the other two sections.
I forget whatever other short stuff is on the course.

In the CofS, you HAD to do the Life Orientation Course as a next action,
which again took a year or something with the reading aloud and twinning.
Is that worth doing? I didn't have any choice. Personally I found
nothing much new on LOC and it was a big pain in the nuts. Others thought
it was great.

I'm not going to write a summary for LOC like I did for KTL.

Is KTL worth doing? Well, it depends on what you have to give up to
do it.

Paul
 
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Bea Kiddo

Crusader
I was a KTL/LOC C/S for years.

Just for the record, nothing on LOC is confidential. Only KTL is confidential.
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
I was a KTL/LOC C/S for years.

Just for the record, nothing on LOC is confidential. Only KTL is confidential.

As far as I know, only the KTL Clay Table EPs (and delivery course) are confidential, although this wasn't necessarily known to staff.

Paul
 

Bea Kiddo

Crusader
As far as I know, only the KTL Clay Table EPs (and delivery course) are confidential, although this wasn't necessarily known to staff.

Paul

But no-one who had not done KTL could walk into the courseroom and start reading materials, right? Unless one had done the course....
 

Hanover Fist

Patron with Honors
Wow, interesting info about this KTL course. No offense, but it seems to me like a tremendous waste of time, if you are educated in the least. Is this one of the sources for the "Can't see the forest for the trees" syndrome that is sometimes seen in ardent scientologists?


Hanover Fist
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
But no-one who had not done KTL could walk into the courseroom and start reading materials, right? Unless one had done the course....

Iffy point. It was sort of frowned upon, but there is no tech or policy that I know of forbidding it. At ITO, as a sup if someone was getting horribly tied up in clearing the word "the" or something, I would reluctantly let the person clear it from the 6c book as it would clear *much* easier that way. But if this happened too much the person would just get shunted over to do KTL properly.

Paul
 

Bea Kiddo

Crusader
Wow, interesting info about this KTL course. No offense, but it seems to me like a tremendous waste of time, if you are educated in the least. Is this one of the sources for the "Can't see the forest for the trees" syndrome that is sometimes seen in ardent scientologists?


Hanover Fist

I am not pro-Scn by any means. But my answer may make it seem like it. If you have read my story, you would have noticed that I did not really take to schooling much whatsoever. I learned english grammar on the Key to Life Course. Not in school. So whatever grammar I know is from that course. Because my schooling was completely neglected.

It is a waste of time.

It is called "the New Grammar". I guess he is trying, (LRH) with his tech, to take over every aspect of the world? I have no idea.

Good luck in trying to understand the logic of it.:whistling:
 

Muhammad

Patron
Running Incident Two

When I was doing the clay reps on the KTL I was running incident two material.
My clay reps took up two course tables sometimes. It took me over 100 hours to complete. All thru the course the DoP would tell me that I am doing my OT levels in clay and should stop it. I protested saying but this is what comes up when I am asked the auditing question. Not until I did my ot2 in the freezone did I have reality what he was saying.Once I realized what the cos does to pcs to keep the coinage flowing it upset me very much. They run you on processes that retards your progress and nickle and dime people who can not afford the OT levels and If you can afford the OT levels then there is the set ups and on and on. I could have been put on OT2 and avoided alot of crap very early on and save thousands and thousands. Felt very betrayed. Would love me meet DM in dark alley and dance on his face
As sala'amu alaikum
 

Zinjifar

Silver Meritorious Sponsor
When I was doing the clay reps on the KTL I was running incident two material.
My clay reps took up two course tables sometimes. It took me over 100 hours to complete. All thru the course the DoP would tell me that I am doing my OT levels in clay and should stop it. I protested saying but this is what comes up when I am asked the auditing question. Not until I did my ot2 in the freezone did I have reality what he was saying.Once I realized what the cos does to pcs to keep the coinage flowing it upset me very much. They run you on processes that retards your progress and nickle and dime people who can not afford the OT levels and If you can afford the OT levels then there is the set ups and on and on. I could have been put on OT2 and avoided alot of crap very early on and save thousands and thousands. Felt very betrayed. Would love me meet DM in dark alley and dance on his face
As sala'amu alaikum


this raises a question for me. How do you clay table space planes that look like DC-8s, but, without the propellors, when the DC-8 was *always* a jet (which have no propellors to start with)

How can one get 'mass' on such a concept?

Zinj
 

canbedohave

New Member
My story of KTL

Here's another write-up I did three years ago on KTL. Overall, I'm glad I did it, but in terms of bang for the buck in time and effort, it probably wasn't very viable.

***************

> What's the benefit to KTL as opposed to
> simply having a decent education and knowing how to use a dictionary?

Someone asked me this privately, and since it should be of general interest
I am giving a public answer.

Before I started KTL I considered that I had had a decent education and
knew how to use a dictionary. I will answer the question based on my
personal experience, not on my observation of before/after differences
with others.

6C (small common words) and 9A (grammar) took me about another year.
I got more out of 6C than 9A. I learned some stuff on 9A, but not much
that I didn't already know.

At the end I noticed that reading something generally comprehensible-
-bulletin, novel, newspaper etc.--was pretty much effortless, and any
mu's jumped straight off the page and held my attention. Similarly with
listening to anyone speak. This was a change from before I had done
the course, even though beforehand I didn't think I had any trouble reading
and understanding things.

You certainly have hit the nail on the head here!

I suspect this comes from doing 6C. The little words don't get noticed
much because they are ubiquitous, and because they really are mu's if
they haven't been thoroughly, thoroughly cleared. So, because they are
everywhere, one goes around in a permanent mental fog all the time.
I had never noticed it before completing KTL, even though I had done
that whole little-word trip as detailed in the [earlier] post
and considered myself very educated and literate. It's
like living in LA and not noticing the air quality until you fly up out
of it in a plane and see the orange-brown sludge you've been breathing
for years and never noticed.

I can imagine others less literate or with less prior case gain got more
out of the course than I did. For someone who is genuinely out of communication
with the world around him because he does not understand what he sees or hears
and cannot communicate clearly his thoughts to others, the name "Key to Life" is
not a misnomer or PR gimmick.

It is not a misnomer or PR gimmick

The CT processing on the course is not duplicated by other processing.
The whole small common word trip is not duplicated on any other course--
the definitions are clearer and more precise than in a regular dictionary
and the clearing of them is done far more thoroughly than just sitting
down with a dictionary and "clearing to full conceptual understanding"
each of the sixty words that I listed out in the previous post. I found
9A, the grammar section, is more thorough in the twinned word-clearing
and drilling than any normal grammar course, and again the material is
laid out well, but it wasn't as different as the other two sections.
I forget whatever other short stuff is on the course.

This LRH course is totally unique, not found anywhere else in this UNIVERSE!

Is KTL worth doing? Well, it depends on what you have to give up to
do it.

It IS worth doing

Paul

My Response to KTL

I am new to this forum, and my comment may be long past this thread’s usefulness, but I need to start somewhere, so why not someplace where I do have some reality.

Thank you Dulloldfart for your detailed response to this thread on KTL.

I did KTL many years ago and I can say quite unequivocally that I had major wins on this course! I also achieved the expected EP which is that I am able to communicate to someone in both written or spoken English and be understood, and to understand someone in both written or spoken English, in addition to understand them even if they used incorrect English!

I am not trying to be better than thou, but who honestly can say that they can really do that now in their life.

Now that is something to which I am proud to have achieved, since my public schooling had been a royal mess. I did not learn anything, or remember much, in all my public school days that I could say would have helped me in life!

I had many wins along the way when doing the course and that includes even wins on word clearing single definitions of many words.

To this day I continue to keep my wins and I always apply my KTL material. I will share another win from my KTL: since leaving the public school education system, I always had trouble with the English language, but after KTL I started to notice that some other people I interacted with also had poor English. For a while I used to get upset, mainly in myself, with way they spoke, you know, slurring words, using incorrect tense and word agreement, using other bad grammar, since I wanted to use my new KTL knowledge to the best of my ability. I then decided that I was the one who could fix the problem, so I started to notice more what they were saying and I then accepted whatever they said to me, which allowed me to understand them, and be able communicate back to them so that they understand me, by using good plain English grammar and words to their level of English. I reckon I could not do that before KTL.

I would like to add that your description of KTL is very detailed but does not mention some parts of the course:

Section 8: you drill the famous ‘Bill and Joe’ Method 9 word clearing procedure with your twin.

Section 10: is the Conceptual Thinking clay table processes part where you are trained to think more easily in concepts.

Section 11: you M9 word clear the Factors

Section 12: you have your next step outlined to you, which is the LOC.

I think some people here on this thread may be devaluing the effect that this course can have on them, as it has been touted as just a glorified children’s grammar course.

It is not that at all! I do not see children doing clay table representations, word clearing ‘The Factors’ or even doing ‘Conceptual Thinking’ processes, let alone word clearing many small common words. Those small common words in any public or private schooling system are given ‘lip service’ but once one understands them, the language is so much easier to use.

I can say personally, my ARC for the English language has skyrocketed for having done this course.

canbedohave
 
Wow, interesting info about this KTL course. No offense, but it seems to me like a tremendous waste of time, if you are educated in the least. Is this one of the sources for the "Can't see the forest for the trees" syndrome that is sometimes seen in ardent scientologists?


Hanover Fist

You could have just said Scientology is a a tremendous waste of time and left it at that , it would have pretty much covered all the bases. If you didn't think listening to hours and hours of Hubbard babble incoherently in his lectures was enough to a waste of time, you can spend several hours a day for decades searching for imaginary disembodied space aliens that are supposed to be running around in you head.
 

chipgallo

Patron Meritorious
I did the KTL/LOC in Los Angeles at the International Training Org, with the intention of supervising it at FCDC. The first pilots of this course were delivered in the late 1970's and it went through a decade of rewrites and adjustments. I'm fairly sure it was an attempt to remedy the literacy level of staff and public Scientologists who in some cases were not able to read and check out on bulletins and policy letters.

The cartoon imagery and low entry level gradient would potentially insult the intelligence of a college educated person, but what "one size fits all" literacy course wouldn't? The cost compared to benefit is high for a literate individual and all the special requirements (KTL Case Supervisor, Course, Sup, Ethics Officer, Qual) make it more expensive for orgs to standardly deliver. Haven't been in an org since 1990 but my impression is that Scn management itself has devalued the course. Was there even a GAT version?
 

Ted

Gold Meritorious Patron
Not to invalidate anyone's pleasure in doing KOT or the Div. 6 picture-book courses, but to show the Hubbard hypocrisy, here is what he had to say in 1957:

"Now, I tell you that quite notably, because as time goes on and as radiation gets worse, and the government gets, if anything, more stupid concerning its propaganda methodology -- which is already sufficiently bad to cause anybody studying it to wonder whether or not they didn't have to search through asylum after asylum to find a sufficiently idiotic illiterate in order to execute that literature. I mean, its that bad. It's got cartoons -- page after page of cartoons -- of silly-looking people being upset or something about radiation. And it tells you all the way through there this can kill you, and so forth; but these are cartoons, and it's evidently a hilarious fact to them. It's the glee of insanity if I've ever heard of it. And this is the official government pamphlet. I just inspected it."

-- Taped Lecture of 25 January, 1957, Auditing Techniques: Specifics
 

nexus100

Gold Meritorious Patron
I believe any knowledge is useful. Any at all, because this universe is composed, in a way, of created knowledge. One moves into spaces of knowledge, point by point, in order to see more.

Therefore "gaining" any knowledge is going to rightfully be appreciated by the obtainer as useful.

But full understanding means context as well as fact, which is where Scientology or any proscribed path might fail. Unless one puts what one has learned in the context of all understanding it is much less useful. Not putting into context can even serve to block further understanding because a viewpoint one selects as "right" is deadly. No viewpoint is more valuable than another. It is simply space like any other space.

That is the story I see about Scientology, certainly, but also educational "systems" in general. The system assumes an importance. One does not look it over completely and perspective is not achieved because the system is above one's perspective. One does not get fully outside it. Attention will remain on that importance till it is no more valuable than anything else.

I suspect a cross section of the "classics", or maybe just ten or so of William Faulkner's books would provide one's needs for literacy in the English language. And offer a pretty good dab of life, without the massive demands of an educational system.

Which doesn't mean anything is wrong with KTL or anyone who did it, or anything they think about it. My opinion.
 
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Iknowtoomuch

Gold Meritorious Patron
Not to invalidate anyone's pleasure in doing KOT or the Div. 6 picture-book courses, but to show the Hubbard hypocrisy, here is what he had to say in 1957:

"Now, I tell you that quite notably, because as time goes on and as radiation gets worse, and the government gets, if anything, more stupid concerning its propaganda methodology -- which is already sufficiently bad to cause anybody studying it to wonder whether or not they didn't have to search through asylum after asylum to find a sufficiently idiotic illiterate in order to execute that literature. I mean, its that bad. It's got cartoons -- page after page of cartoons -- of silly-looking people being upset or something about radiation. And it tells you all the way through there this can kill you, and so forth; but these are cartoons, and it's evidently a hilarious fact to them. It's the glee of insanity if I've ever heard of it. And this is the official government pamphlet. I just inspected it."

-- Taped Lecture of 25 January, 1957, Auditing Techniques: Specifics



Sounds like that's where he got the idea for KTL.:D

If KTL had to go through so many revisions,specially the last one done after Ron died. I can't imagine it being 100% Ron.
 
this raises a question for me. How do you clay table space planes that look like DC-8s, but, without the propellors, when the DC-8 was *always* a jet (which have no propellors to start with)

How can one get 'mass' on such a concept?

Zinj

The answer to your question should follow as a result of your word clearing the following: metaphor, analogy, simile, descriptive statement, non-literal statement, "purple prose", hyperbolic statement, rhetorical flourish.

Since it's you asking, Z, I'd suggest also clay demoing each of the above to full cognitions. :)


Mark A. Baker
 

Zinjifar

Silver Meritorious Sponsor
The answer to your question should follow as a result of your word clearing the following: metaphor, analogy, simile, descriptive statement, non-literal statement, "purple prose", hyperbolic statement, rhetorical flourish.

Since it's you asking, Z, I'd suggest also clay demoing each of the above to full cognitions. :)


Mark A. Baker

That would be a disallowed function, since to suggest any of the above in reference to 'Source' pronouncements would be Tech Degrade.

Zinj
 
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