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The LIE of Hubbard's Whole Track Recall in Scientology

Lermanet_com

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Thanks. Though I've long had the suspicion, this is the first confirmation I've seen that LRH might have read Reich.

I just looked up "orgone energy" on wikipedia, and it sure does sound like "theta."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgone_energy

This was not known at the time: During orgasm, both male and females are dosed by a potent signalling molecule called oxytocin which produces a massive cascade effect in neurotransmitters...including dopamine (released by cocaine use) & endorphins (pain killers)

Wiki: Recent studies (2009) have begun to investigate oxytocin's role in various behaviors, including orgasm, social recognition, pair bonding, anxiety, and maternal behaviors.[1] For this reason, it is sometimes referred to as the "love hormone". The inability to secrete oxytocin and feel empathy is linked to sociopathy, psychopathy, narcissism,[citation needed] and general manipulativeness.[2][not verified in body]

In short, orgasm is good for you.
 
This was not known at the time: During orgasm, both male and females are dosed by a potent signalling molecule called oxytocin which produces a massive cascade effect in neurotransmitters...including dopamine (released by cocaine use) & endorphins (pain killers)

Wiki: Recent studies (2009) have begun to investigate oxytocin's role in various behaviors, including orgasm, social recognition, pair bonding, anxiety, and maternal behaviors.[1] For this reason, it is sometimes referred to as the "love hormone". The inability to secrete oxytocin and feel empathy is linked to sociopathy, psychopathy, narcissism,[citation needed] and general manipulativeness.[2][not verified in body]

In short, orgasm is good for you.

I hope I am not derailing, but is it also true that levels of oxytocin, at least in men, can drop dramatically after orgasm and take more than a day to recover?
 

Lermanet_com

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I hope I am not derailing, but is it also true that levels of oxytocin, at least in men, can drop dramatically after orgasm and take more than a day to recover?

I'm 62 now, and I haven't noticed that and Im not going to go into detail...perhaps I'll notice that when I'm 72..
 

Div6

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This was not known at the time: During orgasm, both male and females are dosed by a potent signalling molecule called oxytocin which produces a massive cascade effect in neurotransmitters...including dopamine (released by cocaine use) & endorphins (pain killers)

Wiki: Recent studies (2009) have begun to investigate oxytocin's role in various behaviors, including orgasm, social recognition, pair bonding, anxiety, and maternal behaviors.[1] For this reason, it is sometimes referred to as the "love hormone". The inability to secrete oxytocin and feel empathy is linked to sociopathy, psychopathy, narcissism,[citation needed] and general manipulativeness.[2][not verified in body]

In short, orgasm is good for you.

As an additional point of view, perhaps this is a seque into the bizarre Pain and Sex HCOB. (I say bizarre, as was the case with many of Hubbard's pronuncamentos, it was issued with NO backing research data or context, and became the "technical basis" for the draconian 2-d behaviour of the latter-day CoS).

The concept presented in that HCOB was that "sex was not native to a thetan", and may also give insight into "the bio-chemical personality" HCOB, in that people "addicted" to sex were in fact, addicted to the sexual sensations and chemicals of bodies. Theta traps indeed.

It was a tough sell in the 80's, and is even more of one today. But the long term progression is interesting, from the hypocritical more's of the 50's, to the womens Lib and Free Sex movements of the 60's, the recognition of nudity as "protected expressions of free speech (a la Playboy and Hustler) in the 60's and 70's to the point where now, the main purpose of the internet is the delivery on demand of Porn. (I am only half joking there, as it is well known by upstream internet providers that after 10:00 pm in, say the Middle East, the majority of browser traffic heads to Playboy.com, and other similar sites).

Given those "metrics" I think it's going to be a long long time before the tenets in that HCOB have any hope of acceptance vis a vis "clearing the planet".

Your mileage may vary.
 

ClearedSP

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the bizarre Pain and Sex HCOB



I recently realized that my testosterone + stilbestrol regimen is no longer working, but that some of you are still getting laid. This must stop immediately! If I can't have it, you can't either!

LRH

 

Lermanet_com

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I have thought about the scientology system (gradients) and how often you are asked to "create" something with your imagination - and imagine it as real. This repetitive exercise, coupled with encouragement to achieve super spoon-bender skills, is really just part of getting scientology and all the hogwash that Hubbard created to seem real. If done properly, you will believe the traffic light changed at your awesome OT will!

Maybe spoon-bending isn't a good analogy, since scientology avoids documented results. You can convince yourself that you're OT, but no one gets to bend a spoon. You'd have to fall back on your imagination for that. Maybe create a universe that only you see, and then bend a whole planet, or the universe itself! It's all pretend, so make it true for you. Cash or credit card?

In LeCron's "Clinical Hypnosis" oh hell anyway one of them describes an advanced hypnosis technique that creates a deep trance...

All you have to do is cause the person to repeatedly imagine a moving object..say, an orange ball rolling off the table and bouncing out of the room.

If you do this a few times you will be in deep trance.

enjoy!

Arnie

Presenting Ron the War Zero:
Step right up folks, get your paranoid schizophrenia inside....
 

AnonKat

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In LeCron's "Clinical Hypnosis" oh hell anyway one of them describes an advanced hypnosis technique that creates a deep trance...

All you have to do is cause the person to repeatedly imagine a moving object..say, an orange ball rolling off the table and bouncing out of the room.

If you do this a few times you will be in deep trance.

enjoy!

Arnie

Presenting Ron the War Zero:
Step right up folks, get your paranoid schizophrenia inside....

Real smart cookie this hubbard. Hypnotism is nothing more than applied Psychology and now there is evidence in brain mapping and brain plasticity research.
 

Idle Morgue

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I was really relieved to discover that there was no recall on past lives. It did not seem real to me. I hallucinated whilst under the influence of the CULT and am so happy to be out of the insane organization!

I don't even believe in past lives anymore. I did before Scientology - or at least I had some suspicion about it. I had no recall of any past lives - just a vivid imagination and I cannot imagine being an auditor listening to this crap for hours on end!

They (auditor's) must just hate their jobs and then to not get paid or get anything out of it - would be horrific - and then everyone leaves anyway! Most valuable "money making scam" on the planet! Scientology - the SCIENCE of PONZI Scams!:omg:

I never wanted to be an auditor - sitting there like a potato day after day - no excercise - just listening! I can't even imagine. Poor souls!:bigcry: I hope they all leave soon!
 
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