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The IRS runs CST through it's group of non-Scientologist lawyers!
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When did this takeover occur?
What was the motivation for the takeover?
Why would the IRS want to run the CST
And please, no links! Just answer yourself. Thanks.
Mick Wenlock
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wrong. sheesh.
Mick Wenlock
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When did this takeover occur?
What was the motivation for the takeover?
Why would the IRS want to run the CST
And please, no links! Just answer yourself. Thanks.
Jeez Veda, good luck getting a sensible answer.
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Notice that Marty Rathbun avoids mentionong WHY Hubbard was "demonized by the establishment perhaps more than any civilian figure."
Answering "Why?" is going to be a problem, that he'll have, if he writes the definitive "Independent Scientology" biography of L. Ron Hubbard - as he has hinted he's in the process of doing.
Coming up with an "acceptable" reason "why," for his valued "wog" opinion-leader connections, is going to require some PR tap dancing by Marty.
IMO, Marty's main purpose is a PR one: to rehabilitate Hubbard's "image" and "good name," and, with it, L. Ron Hubbard's Scientology's "Image" and "good name."
That means he must come up with "acceptable" PR explanations for various issues.
So, Marty, what are you going to tell the curious "wogs" about WHY L. Ron Hubbard - the subject of your inspirational poem 'Ode to L. Ron Hubbard' - was singled out for so much besmirchment? Why was "Hubbard demonized by the establishment perhaps more than any civilian figure"?
You're saying this Marty, so now tell us WHY?
I guess we'll have to wait for the book.
The following message was just channeled from the independent theta universe. Don't worry, I was on a meter when Marty the being put a com line in to me, made himself known and told me what he needed and wanted for me to think:
LA SCN
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I had to laugh when I read your included 'quote' from Marty about Hubbard:
The reason Ron was singled out for so much besmirchment is because of the cold war establishment. You heard me. Re-read my scripture, below. Ron didn't go into agreement with their merchant of chaos tactics that terrorize people into paying money to avoid predictions of nuclear annihilation, endless suffering and loss of eternity for all beings.
...
I'd swear that was the exact logic used by every reg I dealt with to get me to cough up the long green.
ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn
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It's some Koos and Captain Bill style ranting. And, yah, there's all the CofS IRS ology Meade Emory ranting on there, too right there with the alien stuff. Remember- god, who was it- CL/ The Librarian who used to post about that? Memory fades, I'm not sure. Somebody'll remember, though.
Scn lends itself well to conspiracy think. It does contain some but some people like Koos and like a couple people (whose mention, were I to name them here, would just get me fucking pilloried here.) take the ball and run with it. I wonder whose site it is.
Even Scn has its fringe element.
This also reminds me of the Ancient Aliens program which, I hasten to add, I don't watch, but do see it when I flip through channels desperately trying to find a real archaeology or history program. Ever see any of those? There's a lot of extrapolation and supposition wherein people are leading themselves to a certain conclusion and trying to make it all fit so that they always arrive at that conclusion.
Plus, you know, Hubbard did believe in Marcabs and between lives implant stations (the latter concept has always distressed me).
"Captain" Bill Robertson and his Galactic Patrol was the first thing that came to my mind too. All that's missing are his crayon drawn cartoons ... I mean technical diagrams
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It's interesting how Scientologists attempt to publicly disown parts of Scientology. The dishonesty of it is stunning, although not surprising.
From two recent interviews of "Scientology celebrities:
Interviewer: "Do you believe your ancestors were reincarnated aliens?"
Juliette Lewis: "That’s not been a part of my experience, no." (Laughs)
Interviewer: "So... you don’t believe you came from aliens?"
Lewis: "I was thinking about where that idea came from, and I was like, 'Oh, maybe it’s because Hubbard was a successful science fiction writer, so they’re confusing his science fiction with his other studies that have nothing to do with science fiction.'
"...The one thing that troubles me is when rumor becomes hatred and prejudice towards a group of people. That’s when it becomes scary, when you have people trying to take away other people’s right to practice a religion..."
And then,
Kate Ceberano:
Interviewer; "What about aliens? People will say, Do you believe in aliens?"
Ceberano: "I never heard of it in all my three generations. I think people confuse L. Ron Hubbard's science fiction works with his philosophical and religious works."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpHhJKeTYxI
Independent Scientologists do this also, and poor Captain Bill - because he had very little PR sense (his PR tech was "out") - is often dismissed by them as a nut, when the Independent Scientologists, privately, believe many of the same things.
From two recent interviews of "Scientology celebrities:
Interviewer: "Do you believe your ancestors were reincarnated aliens?"
Juliette Lewis: "That’s not been a part of my experience, no." (Laughs)
Interviewer: "So... you don’t believe you came from aliens?"
Lewis: "I was thinking about where that idea came from, and I was like, 'Oh, maybe it’s because Hubbard was a successful science fiction writer, so they’re confusing his science fiction with his other studies that have nothing to do with science fiction.'
"...The one thing that troubles me is when rumor becomes hatred and prejudice towards a group of people. That’s when it becomes scary, when you have people trying to take away other people’s right to practice a religion..."
And then,
Kate Ceberano:
Interviewer; "What about aliens? People will say, Do you believe in aliens?"
Ceberano: "I never heard of it in all my three generations. I think people confuse L. Ron Hubbard's science fiction works with his philosophical and religious works."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpHhJKeTYxI
Independent Scientologists do this also, and poor Captain Bill - because he had very little PR sense (his PR tech was "out") - is often dismissed by them as a nut, when the Independent Scientologists, privately, believe many of the same things.
LA SCN
NOT drinking the kool-aid
Jeez, sounds like the church is running all the celebs through the GO / OSA How to lie to the Press TR's
LA SCN
NOT drinking the kool-aid
Emphasis mine. Marty Rathbun says he is producing scripture, now? An interesting slip from Scientology's latest Messiah figure, perhaps?
All hail MartyR!
Great shoop!
Can you do one for Ron the Ferengi?
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"Conspiracy Theories" are HUGE button for many ex-Scientologists who still have egg all over their faces for having bought into the biggest "Conspiracy Theory" promoting organization ever - The Church of Scientology. The fear is in being fooled again... Safer to never risk exposure to potentially misleading ideas that could lead one down a similar path of ruin.
But I don't buy any of the Marcab crap either, just find it entertaining at times.
Freeminds
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And lest we forget Marty Rathbun recently telling a radio talk show host that the Xenu/OT III story was simply an allegory. He doesn't think that way, he doesn't audit that way, he doesn't C/S that way and he doesn't train people that way.
CONCERNED SCIENTOLOGY
Hey Marty, the wogs are asking about Xenu
and the OT III materials in Ron's own handwriting!
What should we do? What should we do?
MARTY RATHBUN
Lose it.
Hey Marty, the wogs are asking about Xenu
and the OT III materials in Ron's own handwriting!
What should we do? What should we do?
MARTY RATHBUN
Lose it.
(for anyone who isn't familiar with Rathbun, those are he orders he gave when incriminating evidence about Scientology's culpability in Lisa McPherson's death was about to be discovered by the prosecution and McPherson family.)
LA SCN
NOT drinking the kool-aid
Not sure I have this quite right yet, but...
Looking damn good!
Oooh...that head on his CommodeDoor outfit...or the implanting the tomato outfit...
Good job and thank you!
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Emphasis mine. Marty Rathbun says he is producing scripture, now? An interesting slip from Scientology's latest Messiah figure, perhaps?
All hail MartyR!
um....when I was channeling Messiah Marty's message, it came thru as "Re-read my bullshit" but I had knowingness that it was some kind of transcriptionist error, so I corrected it to "Re-read my scripture".
I am sure I am right because my space felt calm and I had a real F/Ney vibe.
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