The Most Scientologist Scientologist.

Mest Lover

Not Sea Org Qualified
How Scientology were you?


I wasn't at all, that bothers some people.

At what point did you realize that you WERE the most KSW Scientologist you could be and there was something wrong with Scientology and not wrong with you?

How Not KSW is KSW?
 

TR'SIN

Patron with Honors
Mesty

:coolwink:When I graduated from the KSW Tech Specialist Course about 1 yr before I left. This course not very well-known, Hummmmm wonder why? and in our Org only 2 or 3 people had ever done it and one of them was a public.

So many things on a daily basis just stuck in my craw and I couldn't get over it. I guess it was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I could see there was no hope of ever getting people around me to apply policy, they were too busy getting the stats up at any cost. And as a friend of mine pointed out to me "it was never about the person" it was always a "cycle".

Good to know its okay to be a person.:happydance:
 

HelluvaHoax!

Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on
In the 1980's Int Management ORDERED all public to do the KSW course. I was at Flag at the time.

I watched the spiritual gestapo herding parishioners into cattle cars, taking them to concentration courses where they could make KSW their own.

I refused to board that train.

It made no sense. I could come up with no reason whatsoever that a person like myself (who had studiously worked to the top of the Bridge applying Scientology the best I knew how) would even NEED to be reminded of KSW since it had already been studied ad nauseam at the beginning of every course.

Somebody, apparently, had been adjudicated to have not been applying KSW. But since no one had spoken to me or asked me anything about it, I didn't see how it had anything to do with me.

It didn't.

At that time I just assumed that i must be an SP.

Funny how Scientology helps boost your self-confidence that way! :hysterical:
 

KnightVision

Gold Meritorious Patron
I always found it annoying, insulting and an obvious intention to subdue my mind... when I'd have to read through the KSW crap before starting a course. It's like when you go to a store to pick up something and have to pass through the stench of urine left by some 'night watchman'....

But that's Scn for you; part of the price of learning to communicate a bit more fruitfully... one has to overcome the built in 'hidden' agenda of being brainwashed, hypnotized and mind controlled as well as the not so hidden agenda of being recruited into the inner cult core, invalidation for not doing more, undoable targets, vultures after one's wallet contents, being regged for any of dozens of front groups...

Scn is a serious piece of sh*t.
 

Kathy (ImOut)

Gold Meritorious Patron
How Scientology were you?


I wasn't at all, that bothers some people.

At what point did you realize that you WERE the most KSW Scientologist you could be and there was something wrong with Scientology and not wrong with you?

How Not KSW is KSW?


I started wondering about the non-application of KSW when my daughter left the SO. She was only in for 5 months. But they wouldn't give her a leaving staff sec check "because she wasn't in long enough". WTF? I was on Mission staff for less time than my daughter was in the SO and I still got a leaving staff sec check.

Years later a "friend" got told all about the WISE mediation I was in. I pointed out the fact that the person (EO of that WISE office) that told her about it was violating WISE policy and sent her email comms proving some of the lies she was told. But because he had better "certs" than my hubby or I, she believed the lies. That was another huge eye opener.

We were out of the CofS roughly six months later.

I was never involved in Scn to clear the planet or to better the world. It was a completely selfish endeavor and I stayed with it just past the point where it wasn't working for me anymore.
 

TR'SIN

Patron with Honors
Geez Hoax

That Flag expierence sounds horrible. I've read the stories of some at that time.

I had the idea when I did the Tech Specialist Course that I would be able to get others to do the KSW thing. So when I didn't and I couldn't that was my beginning of the end.

And of course, as Mest said in starting the thread, I was convinced that "I" was being a Scn to the best of my ability.:duh::duh::duh: I don't know what I was thinking then. Its so many years ago, sometimes its hard read what I write and realize I'm not just reporting; those are "my" stories.:innocent2:
 

Miss Pert

Silver Meritorious Patron
I don't think I was ever really a scientologist scientologist and KSW was something I was never quite comfortable with. When at Flag as an Outer Org Trainee they had me do the KSW course, because I wanted to leave, I attested to completing it but never did a success storyor attesteed to success and couldn't have if I wanted to. In hind sight I should have cos when they asked "Do you want someone to have the same wins you did?" when I said yes it would have been true, my win was realising that Scn was even less meaningful to me than before the course and I was already starting to consider leaving.
 
How Scientology were you?


I wasn't at all, that bothers some people.

At what point did you realize that you WERE the most KSW Scientologist you could be and there was something wrong with Scientology and not wrong with you?

How Not KSW is KSW?

My girl friend and I used to encourage our fellow Academy students to cut class and go to the movies with us.

A new supervisor had just returned from Flag having done the Flag course Supervisors course. he was a jerk. We organized all the students to drop their stats. Two days later they were meter checking everyone. We had floating needles and VGIs. Not us. He was kicked upstairs where he couldn't harm anyone.

When folders had to go to ASHO for the PC to get power, we did marathon auditor report forms, C/Ses, summary reports to get the admin in compliance.

When anyone went to LA for Clear, they were warned not to join the Sea Org.
 
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