Pilot's repost Z81 -- Between Lives and Targs
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Pilot's repost Z81
Between Lives and Targs
From Post 51 – March 1999 [two excerpts in this repost]
Yet another post full of wild and dubious stuff. I like to
get these things on record just in case, but I wouldn't bet
money on them.
I was trying to come up with another recall process. I was
actually hoping for a fast one and instead I got one that
turned on a huge comm lag.
I was thinking that it would be helpful to run off the
intention to forget.
It didn't seem smart to try any heavy L&N or XDN style
intention handling. There are too many implants that include
"to forget" as an implanted goal.
So I wanted a light repetitive process that would handle
the being's own intention. And it seemed to me that the
nice remembering/forgetting straightwire process (something
you wouldn't mind remembering/forgetting) was after the
fact. What I wanted was to spot the actual decisions to
forget because those would be before the fact of forgetting.
The process I put together was the following commands
(run alternately):
a) Recall a time you wanted to make another forget something
b) Recall a time another wanted to make you forget something
c) Recall a time another wanted to make somebody else forget something
d) Recall a time another wanted to make himself forget something
e) Recall a time you wanted to forget something
In retrospect, this might have run faster as 5 separate
processes, each consisting of 2 commands, alternating remembering
and forgetting. Although the remembering side seemed fairly
uncharged to me, it could restore horsepower in between each
push at forgetting.
But the above is the one I used. The plan was to blow postulates
on wanting to forget.
I normally run recall processes extremely fast. They don't
turn on much of a comm lag. I can spot a few trivial answers
easily, which builds up momentum and then hit something good
almost instantly. And if I haven't said it before, that is
the way to get fast results on a process. Go ahead and give
a few trivial or inconsequential answers to warm up rather
than looking for something important or significant on the
first command.
So logically speaking, I expected to recall a few inconsequential
things to start with. It was obvious to me that there were
some easy answers.
But when I tried the command, I couldn't think of any even
though I was certain that they were there. In fact I got
completely foggy every time I considered the command.
And I kept going back and looking at it occasionally.
It took me approximately 24 hours (off and on) to think of
a first trivial answer to the first question. The answer,
by the way, was a trivial one, an instance where I'd wanted
a teacher to forget to collect a homework assignment that
I hadn't done.
I should have thought of that answer in 10 seconds, I have
plenty of little stuff like that and there wasn't any
non-confront on the thing that I came up with (I've done lots
of O/W etc. - the above was just trivial).
I was at this one for 3 days before I'd gotten through two
runs through the 5 commands above. And the really big
lags were on the 1st command (making another forget).
Of course, as I'd mentioned, "forget" appears in a lot of
implants, but I have good confront of implant items and
I'm not likely to dramatize an item these days. And of
course there is the subject of implanting others, but
I've run charge off of that too and it is not likely to
put me on such a heavy comm lag.
But that first command was almost knocking me out every
time I tried to do it.
So I was Itsaing this to a friend in the coffee shop (that
does help and speeds things up) when I realized that it
was the between lives area.
Not just being implanted to forget, but doing the overt of
making others' forget.
That is how they work it. You have to make the guy ahead
of you forget before you can get out. And then the guy
behind you makes you forget (which is easy because you
have just done it as an overt). So the people getting
this implant are running it in on each other, the one
to the next.
That opened up the flood gates. There are a series of areas
in the BLI (between lives implant). These are places where
you interact with other beings rather than just implanted
pictures and items (which are also part of this). As
you leave each area, you have to implant a compulsion into
somebody else and then get implanted with the same yourself.
Of course one could be stubborn, but then one is just
stuck in that area until they get apathetic and give in.
It is probably a bit like being in the RPF.
That is what makes it so sticky and hard to run, it is
full of overts rather than just being a motivator.
There might also be things like being among a crowd of
people being tortured by demons. Then one of the demons
offers to let you take his place and torture people for
him, and you say no so you get tortured some more.
Eventually you agree, and then you are the demon. That
is the only way out, each person going through the same
progression. Later you are quite happy to forget all this.
I've gotten various areas of this before (see
Super Scio etc.)
and there are lots more, some with various platens of
implant items or whatever, and all with this overt aspect
mixed in, and that puts a whole new slant on the thing.
When the lessons are being assigned, you give somebody
else a bad lesson (designed to place somebody more in
agreement rather than really enlighten them) and then
somebody else does the same to you. Of course it is
explained to you as "until you help somebody else to
get their ethics in and agree with the proper morals,
we will not consider you fit to be allowed to leave this
area".
I would not say that I have good recall of this, but I
think that I've finally stopped compulsively forgetting
it.
Now lets take this whole mess and label it the BLI,
because it is not everything that is in the between lives
area.
PS. The first time I saw BLI used as an abbreviation,
it was in Irene Mumford's
Dianasis Newsletter. Supposedly
she researched out a BLI platen. Anybody know what
she found out?
=========
Once I'd done the above, the BLI sorted out from the
other between lives stuff.
Outside of the BLI there are tons of areas mocked up,
usually small territories mocked up by one powerful
being or another. Some could be termed heavens and
some might even be termed hells and most would fall
somewhere in between. This is Monroe's area 2 and the
heavens and hells of various religious mythologies
and maybe even a bit of the aetherian realms of Oaspe.
Just about anything that a being with some awareness
and horsepower might choose to mock up and for which he
could attract a few people to agree with.
I have my own oddball story on this stuff. Again maybe
dub-in. This popped up while I was running the not-know
process that I posted in mid February. What I hit
was completely off the wall so again I have to say that
this is completely speculative and might only be a half right
shadow even if it is partially true.
I was fooling around with running "mocking up something"
alternated with "not-know who created it", which is a really
fun and fabulous process.
While running that, I got a perception of another me that
was creating and how I was not-knowing across the two identities.
The sensation was truly amazing, and something that had
really struck me once and been a puzzle fell into place.
To explain this I need to fill in some background information.
A few years ago I saw a movie called "Made in Heaven" on the
TV. As part of the background, it had a sort of god of this
"heaven", a limited one, who appears as a preppie high school student
(blazer jacket etc.), chain smoking, contemplating, enjoying and
encouraging artwork and creativity, and with more than passing
interest in sex. When the hero wishes to return to earth to
pursue his girlfriend who has just reincarnated, this demigod
tells him that he can send him back but the hero's memory will
be lost and the demigod cannot ensure that the hero will return
to this heaven because he does not have power elsewhere.
Also note that the heaven seemed to be very limited in scope
and its stated purpose was to encourage creativity, giving
people a chance to develop creative talents which would
benefit them when they reincarnated even though they would
not actually remember the visit after returning to earth.
And in case you haven't noticed, I consider create to be the
most important button. If I wanted to do something about
the sorry state of things here and I had the power to mockup
some limited sort of heaven, this creative heaven is exactly
what I would have mocked up. Or rather, it is what I would
have mocked up when I was younger and hadn't had all the
recent cogs on teaching self processing and so forth.
When I saw this movie, I was sure that I was looking at myself
exactly as I appeared in my final year of high school. It seemed
like me down to the exact appearance, dress, mannerisms, attitudes,
and the heaven was exactly as I would have mocked one up at that
time.
And that last year of high school is the one in which I got on
part time staff and trained on level zero as well. And the end
of that period is when I ran
Creation of Human Ability Route 1
on myself.
So when I saw that movie, my first thought was that someone
who had known me in school then must have been impressed and
written the movie, but that idea seemed fairly silly and
impossible.
Then when I ran that not-know process, I had this perception
of being that other me mocking up that limited little heaven.
And with that I had a sudden recall. It seemed to me that as
I ran
CofHA Route 1, I came to a halfway consciousness in a
higher self and, not quite awake but wanting to preserve what
might be a unique chance, I copied the lower identity almost
as a reflex and sent the copy off to some astral level to work
with mockups.
The copying actually happened on the "whatever you are
looking at, copy it" command, and from the higher viewpoint I
was looking at the lesser me and copied it. And then I had the
recall of being the other copy, drifting sideways of myself
watching me run the grand tour in Route One. And with this was
a vague awareness that subsequently I mocked up and held a small
safe territory in the between lives area and mocked it up as a
heaven where people might learn to create.
As to the movie, perhaps someone reincarnated from this heaven
and had a half recall, or perhaps some screen writer visited
it in a dream.
Of course this might all be dub-in. But it was very striking.
There was the feeling of some sort of invisible barrier crumbling
as I spotted this.
And with it, I seemed to get this vision of there being many
little enclaves, heavens (and maybe hells), held stable, each
by some strong being, in the chaos of the between lives area
with the between lives implanters just holding their own little
mess of trouble for whomever they can pull in to their area.
But I couldn't quite reconcile this view with the apparent
fact that everybody is always going through the BLI and there
is little direct contact between these astral realms and
Earth.
Until, that is, I did the forgetting process mentioned
above and got some more charge off the BLI. Then it did
start to make sense and I began to see things as follows.
=======
I think that the whole thing was set up as a prison.
There seems to be a between lives admin area and a heaven
and a hell closely connected with the BLI and these all
seem to be the original machinery built here. The heaven
seems to be an R&R area for the guards and trustees and
the prison warden is its god (and a fairly limited one).
Let us say that they did push stuff sideways of ordinary
3 dimensional space* to build a maximum security prison.
Then they have beings running around in half solid astral
bodies so that they can control them between lives.
*reference to the early part of the Pilot's Cosmic History (Jewel of
Knowledge consisting of many physical dimensions).
Then some big being like Christ senses a deep connection to
basic static, says God is Love, and then finds himself
hitting a Marcabian hell. The legends say that he descended
into hell and lead virtuous people out of there and then
arose on the third day. I'm inclined to believe that and
to think that he would have subsequently established his
own safe space beyond the implant stuff, a heaven more in
keeping with his own postulates.
And there are the Buddhist stories of the Pure Land.
Another promise to make a place where beings could go.
I think that it happened a lot. Any time a big being got
past the between lives machinery one way or another he
worked to mockup something better.
Perhaps the jailers made a big mistake and tore the
three dimensional continuum of this universe and now there
is a leak with endless little "pocket" universes spinning
off to the sides at this weak point.
If my speculations on keeping copies for use in replaying
this time period are correct*, they had to store the
copies sideways in a 4th dimensional direction, and
the BLI and admin areas have to be off on a 4th axis,
and once you move people over that way, maybe they gradually
realize that they can go that way and do it on their own.
*Refers to in Super Scio - Theory of Reset Time.
This is a universe of force and solidity. It is MESTy.
The games are planetary and space opera, very very human
even when the bodies are different. I have to look back
to earlier universes to find stuff like what seems to be
going on now out there in the near earth between lives area.
This universe is itself a prison. And some of the inmates,
themselves trying to make an even more solid prison within
the prison, accidentally knocked down one of the walls and
haven't even quite realized what they've done yet.
Then, of course, I started considering how the mechanism
works, using this new higher perspective.
==========
As I've said at other times, my previous life overlaps the
current one by about 4 years. I gabbed the current
body while still alive in the old one and was senile and
in my "second childhood" and seemed to be "dreaming" of
early childhood in the new body during that time period.
I think that I was doing that (sort of unconsciously on
a theta level) as a solution to the BLI. The idea was
to already be firmly connected to a new body before I
dropped the body so that I could jump from one body to the
other when I died and thereby miss the implant.
It didn't work. I hit the BLI when I died in the old
body and jumped to the new one even though I had been
controlling the new one for 4 years. Any time I have
tried to date when I went through the BLI, I get a
huge read (a division of TA wide) on the year in which
I turned 4 in this lifetime.
I have heard similar things from other people.
I would guess (from the instances of senility) that
there are a lot of people who do this occasionally
(but not every lifetime).
Then there are stories of people hanging around between
lives. Especially stories of Scientologists who have
dropped the body and seem to hang around between lives
for awhile with some awareness and maybe even trying to
do a bit of drills before getting bored and re-incarnating.
And yet when they do re-incarnate, they have been brainwiped.
So it seems like the implant takes place when they pick
up the body rather than when they die.
And there are the Tibetan ideas, avoiding being pulled
anywhere and not letting demons scare you into a body
you don't want. I would think that some of them can go
around for awhile comfortably and with some benefit before
picking up a body. And yet I think that they mostly hit
this thing too when they incarnate.
Or one hangs out in one of the between lives realms as
I discussed earlier. Maybe one stays for decades or
centuries, but has a bit of an urge to reincarnate or
get back to friends stuck on earth or whatever and
then heads back here and gets wacked with the implant.
Of course I'm speculating, but I have this strong feeling
that it is the action of fully connecting up to the body
that throws one into the implant.
You can hang around earth bodiless or go off to the
astral realms, but try to get into an earth body and
bang, you're shifted somewhere else and get hit with
this implant and then shot back into the body you were
trying to pick up.
So they have the body line here tied into the prison
machinery, and they have the earth reality blocked
from the between lives spirits in some way, which is
why there is so little interference from outside.*
*Again referring to the Reset Time theory in Super Scio. Ed.
==========
Next I tried to focus on what happened when I picked up
the current body. I had been running it for 4 years,
but I was still locked onto the old body during that time
period, so it seems like I could put a beam on this one
and handle it without locking in.
When the old one died, I put a beam into the head of
this one. Running that as an incident, I suddenly
realized that there was a black ring in the center
of the head and that that is what I connected to for
the motor controls and when I shifted off of the ring
in the old body, the one in the new body shifted me
off to the BLI.
It is like I could hold and control the new body safely
as long as I was still locked into the old one because
my hook onto the ring in the old body's head kept me
from being moved by the ring in the new one. And it
seems like you always keep a beam on that ring, even
if you're exterior, because if you pull off of that
point, you loose contact with the body.
As soon as I remembered this black ring (thick like
a tiny donut), I just "knew" that it was called a
"Targ Ring".
Now that was strange because I had no reason for
associating Targs with the thing and the ring itself did
not seem to be composed of entities.
========
Very little has been said about Targs.
There is one LRH tape reference, the "electropsychometic
scouting, battle of the universes" tape of 1952.
He associates them with Arslycus, which he also describes
as one of the few other between lives control areas
of the track in addition to recent earth.
He is not very clear or detailed, it is actually a demo
session that MSH
[Mary Sue Hubbard] is running on him and he is spotting
this stuff as he is running it.
The Targs seem to be an entity type used in making
slaves. It seems to me that the term "Targ Ridden"
(being infested with or even ridden or controlled by
Targs) is associated with this but I'm not sure if Ron
used that term or it just popped into my head when I
heard that tape many years ago.
I've run a bit on Arslycus (see
Super Scio) and it seems
to me that they wanted slaves and used between lives
control mechanisms and it now strikes me as quite likely
that the same mechanisms (Targs and Targ Rings and BLIs)
were used there as are now used here. And Ron says
that this kind of control mechanism is not used in most
other times or places in this universe.
Filbert also mentions Targs. He describes them (if
I remember right - It's somewhere in
Excalibur Revisited)
as entities of exceptionally heavy black energy which are
especially difficult to handle.
Since Ron did know about Targs and doesn't mention them in
Solo NOTs, I'd pretty much assumed that they would just
blow with the rest of the stuff, so I hadn't gone hunting
very hard for Targs specifically or paid much attention
to this business.
===========
The upshot of this is that I found a black ring in the
middle of the current body's head (a black theta energy
construction, not something you'd find with a scaple).
Concentrating on it, I tried to contact a Targ in the
body.
I found a large (almost body sized) thick black theta
body which answered up. It was surprising that I had
had previously had zero perception of this thing despite
all the NOTs and everything else.
This thing was quite willing to talk but various processes
seemed to have little effect. ("yes I'm me, but so what,
I like being a Targ, lots of nice sensation").
I even tried "spot being made into a Targ" with little
effect.
The one that worked was "spot making another into a
Targ".
It was not one of these where you indicate and a few
impressions come back and they blow. Instead I had
somebody running through a major incident in detail.
I only duplicated a small bit of it, but it had to
do with implanting these things among others:
Gluttony, Lust, Greed, A craving for Power, and probably
quite a few more along the lines of the 7 deadly sins.
And at the top of the implant were things like stirring
up a desire to be loved and making that into lust, and
stirring up a desire to be admired and making that
into a craving for power and riches etc.
I looked for another. I only got a vague impression and
maybe ran a bit of dub-in until I mentally grabbed that
black ring again (like holding it in a theta fist),
then I had another big solid black being with fairly
clear comm. That was also very interesting. It seems
like you can hardly find or perceive these guys unless
you clamp down on that ring somehow, and then they
are extremely visible.
This time I needed to have him spot an earlier similar
time he made another into a Targ, but the making another
question seemed to be the basic handling without much
else. And it went fairly fast this time. And I noticed
that "To get vengeance" was in the list of goals.
==========
As I said at the beginning, this is all highly speculative.
And it seems awfully complex. But so would New York to
a primitive tribesman.
I have a good feeling about this and it feels like a lot
of things are coming together here. But we shall see.
Affinity,
The Pilot
===========================
Continuing the Targ Discussion (Attn Zero, Paul, etc.)
From Post 52 – March 1999
On Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:50:32 -0800, Ra <
[email protected]> wrote
in response to my earlier post on "Between Lives And Targs"
(note that Ra changed his ID and now posts as "zero")
[ Ra:]
> Hello there Pilot:
> Thought I would dissem some re:
>
> The Pilot wrote:
[ Pilot, quoted by RaRa:]
>>
>> BETWEEN LIVES AND TARGS
>===snip====
>> As soon as I remembered this black ring (thick like
>> a tiny doughnut), I just "knew" that it was called a
>> "Targ Ring".
>>
>> Now that was strange because I had no reason for
>> associating Targs with the thing and the ring itself did
>> not seem to be composed of entities.
>
[ Ra:]
> *As a note here, I have developed a score of rundowns to handle things
> all the way down the bridge. Most undercut the bank completely. Even the
> case completely. I have researched a number of things that I have
> decided in good consciousness not to release at all just yet. One has to
> do with running multiple auditing command cycles on multiple points in
> multiple dimensions. I have another 50 rundowns in note form.*
[Pilot:]
My advice is to write up everything you can as fast as you can
do so with accuracy and good quality.
I do sit on things waiting for another cog or hoping to see
things better, and I go over my technical posts a surprising number
of times, looking them over critically (wearing a Qual hat) before
sending them in.
But once something comes together right, get it written and
out there so that your attention can free up and shift onto
the next thing that needs to be looked at.
Trying to research leaves you with a wandering Itsa line that
can be overrestimulating unless you write your material up for
the sake of others.
The materials in the
Super Scio book were accumulated over
a period of about ten years. I would periodically bog and
go solid, sometimes for months or even a year. Putting it
all together and getting it properly written up and straightened
out took about a year, and it was a tremendous case gain for
me to do so.
Since then I've known better than to sit on things. And so
the stuff keeps coming faster and faster and the bogs and
overrestimulation just don't happen any more.
I think that Ron was in this situation, and the second he
began to hold data back and make it confidential it backlashed
and caved in on him.
[ Ra:]
> But you jumped in this area of ETargs. This is pretty high level stuff.
> I am not surprised you had some problem handling them. Yeah, they know
> they are me, etc. Unfortunately, they do not have the same this
> universe agreements, and Usual Auditing Procedures slide off their back
> like water off of a duck.
>
> The fact you spotted the ETarg ring, and knew what it was is the key to
> being able to handle them. So, I'll just address you at that level of
> awareness, and the rest will never even see this communication, probably
> not even the post.
>
[Ra, quoting The Pilot:]
>> Very little has been said about Targs.
>>
>> There is one LRH tape reference, the "electropychometic
>> scouting, battle of the universes" tape of 1952.
>>
>> He associates them with Arslycus, which he also describes
>> as one of the few other between lives control areas
>> of the track in addition to recent earth.
>
[ Ra:]
> Very recent earth, like yesterday and early this morning. It is pretty
> much an ongoing operation.
>
[Ra, quoting The Pilot:]
>> The Targs seem to be an entity type used in making
>> slaves. It seems to me that the term "Targ Ridden"
>> (being infested with or even ridden or controlled by
>> Targs) is associated with this but I'm not sure if Ron
>> used that term or it just popped into my head when I
>
[Ra:]
> It is telepathically given to you. The phrase wipes memory. If you
> start in on one of these guys, if you find a real one, a half second
> later you are running your commands on someone or something else. More
> than likely a mock up of you. Courtesy of yourself.
[The Pilot:]
Entities acting as bouncers and forgetters. Just like with engrams,
it stops happening if you're on gradient.
[Ra, quoting The Pilot:]
>> I've run a bit on Arslycus (see Super Scio) and it seems
>> to me that they wanted slaves and used between lives
>> control mechanisms and it now strikes me as quite likely
>> that the same mechanisms (Targs and Targ Rings and BLIs)
>> were used there as are now used here. And Ron says
>> that this kind of control mechanism is not used in most
>> other times or places in this universe.
>
[Ra:]
> Actually, it is a little more accurate to say it is not used in this
> universe at all. The manifestation appears to be here, but the truth is,
> it is not. The Ring is a gateway to... hmm..... someplace different to
> put it lightly. That's why you couldn't find anything to run in the ring
> itself. Your intention just went through a worm hole to .. ah, nowhere,
> sort of. It sorta shifts phases of this universe to another.
> I had to invent and run some pretty strange math to figure this out.
[The Pilot:]
Yes, a different space. As to a different "universe", I use a
very broad definition of universe and so I would include it as
part of this one even though it is not part of the local 3 dimensional
space/time.
[Ra, quoting The Pilot:]
>> Filbert also mentions Targs. He describes them (if
>> I remember right - It's somewhere in
Excalibur Revisited)
>> as entities of exceptionally heavy black energy which are
>> especially difficult to handle.
>
[Ra:]
> Close, I will post the complete handling of his later.
>
[Ra, quoting The Pilot:]
>> Since Ron did know about Targs and doesn't mention them in
>> Solo Nots, I'd pretty much assumed that they would just
>> blow with the rest of the stuff, so I hadn't gone hunting
>> very hard for Targs specifically or paid much attention
>> to this business.
>
[Ra:]
> NOTs wont even begin to touch them. Doubtful if they would ever even
> show up. If you managed to get an intention in the area, it would just
> be wormholed off to a no charge area, and meter wouldn't read.
[The Pilot:]
Everything seems to fit the accessibility concept. Things out
of the band don't read. Things on the edge are hard to perceive
and bouncers etc. come into play. When it moves up into full
accessibility, then you don't bounce or obey implanted orders
and it becomes fairly easy to handle.
[Ra, quoting The Pilot:]
>> The upshot of this is that I found a black ring in the
>> middle of the current body's head (a black theta energy
>> construction, not something you'd find with a scaple).
>>
>> Concentrating on it, I tried to contact a Targ in the
>> body.
>
[Ra:]
> I think you were able to do this because of being able to somewhat
> think in multiple dimension, re: your jewel of the universe construct
[The Pilot:]
Yes. But that is simply the accessibility gradient. Everything
becomes easy eventually.
[Ra, quoting The Pilot:]
>> I found a large (almost body sized) thick black theta
>> body which answered up. It was surprising that I had
>> had previously had zero perception of this thing despite
>> all the NOTs and everything else.
>
[Ra:]
> Again the key was in being able to perceive in multiple dimensions*
*reference the Pilot's Cosmic history – the theory is that over time we have become
limited to only perceiving three physical dimensions..
>
[Ra, quoting The Pilot:]
>> This thing was quite willing to talk but various processes
>> seemed to have little effect. ("yes I'm me, but so what,
>> I like being a Targ, lots of nice sensation").
>
[Ra:]
> Yep. Functionally, a mirror telepath. It reads your mind, and only
> gives answers you yourself cannot handle.
[The Pilot:]
That can only be done if you have a big bunch of flinches that
it can read and use against you.
In this case the question was simply not good enough, which is
a different point. Obviously I didn't have any problem with
handling his answer, it simply indicated that these guys needed
something stronger than the NOTs what/who.
[Ra, quoting The Pilot:]
>> I even tried "spot being made into a Targ" with little
>> effect.
>>
>> The one that worked was "spot making another into a
>> Targ".
>> I was not one of these where you indicate and a few
>> impressions come back and they blow. Instead I had
>> somebody running through a major incident in detail.
>
[Ra:]
> Here, I think you got a bit of the extra 6th dimension of the ring.
[The Pilot:]
There is no reason to drag in the ring or the extra dimensions
to explain why he needed to do some real incident running.
In truth I do suspect that there was other dimensional cross
copying of his running it going on, but who cares, if somebody
is running something, you just let them run it.
[Ra, quoting The Pilot:]
>> I only duplicated a small bit of it, but it had to
>> do with implanting these things among others:
>==snip===
>> stirring up a desire to be admired and making that
>> into a craving for power and riches etc.
>>
>> I looked for another. I only got a vague impression and
>> maybe ran a bit of dub-in until I mentally grabbed that
>> black ring again (like holding it in a theta fist),
>> then I had another big solid black being with fairly
>> clear comm. That was also very interesting. It seems
>> like you can hardly find or perceive these guys unless
>> you clamp down on that ring somehow, and then they
>> are extremely visible.
>
[Ra:]
> Yes, by holding the ring, you can make him visible, but you are not
> viewing normal MEST.
>
[Ra, quoting The Pilot:]
>> This time I needed to have him spot an earlier similar
>> time he made another into a Targ, but the making another
>> question seemed to be the basic handling without much
>> else. And it went fairly fast this time. And I noticed
>> that "To get vengeance" was in the list of goals.
>
[Ra:]
> Not surprised. Btw, it looks like you ran the second command (e/s time)
> on the second ETarg, and not the first. Should have ran the first
> command on no.2, and then second command.
[The Pilot:]
I did actually. This was not a formal session write up. I
was simply making the observation that the second one needed
to go E/S.
After the first write up, I ran some more, and they started
going on a fast blow by inspection on being asked to spot
making others into Targs. I suspect that there was a bunch
in close connection to each other and as one ran it, others
would watch and be getting their confront up.
[Ra:]
> Wouldn't have made any diff anyway. The command went off to a mirror
> illusion universe, and the Targ wasn't there in the first place.
[The Pilot:]
Doesn't matter. If you are in contact with a being, then you
are in contact with them.
[Ra:]
> Here is Mr Filberts handle
[presumably from Excalibur Revisted, Ed.]:
> "E-TARG RUNDOWN
>[snip]
>
> So, the handle is not to handle the Targ, but to handle the incident of
> you receiving him, R3R, good ol R3R. It could or could not have been
> done in a Between Lives Implant. The incident of the big light, and
> tribunal will blow down a couple of division on spotting it. All the
> Targs will come into view, and have a fit, and the Black Ring will
> disappear. They are telepathic, and will hit you with your own pictures,
> and theirs, and whatever else they can find. Don't mess with the
> pictures, don't mess with the goals, and things that come up. Just run
> the incident.
[Pilot:]
I hadn't realized that he
[Filbert, Ed.] had bumped into the Targ ring. I read his
book a long time ago.
[Ra:]
> Mr F wrote this with the assumption that the sequence of 1 to 17 had
> been run previously, that would include all ot levels, all entities,
> joiners, and all GPMs, all circuits, prior universes, and rehabilitation
> of home universe. I personally think he was correct in placing this
> handling that far along.
[Pilot:]
Things come up when they come up. Obviously I bumped into them
long after many other things had been handled.
[Ra:]
> Here is the key. Grab the ring. That will activate the Targs. Count
> them, (6 for me) Assign a auditor attention unit to each. (Sort of like
> splitting self in 8) Locate the receipt incident, start R3R. (Will
> necessitate a couple more self splits)
>
> Keep your attention on all 6 Targs, handle their origination's,
> intention attacks, picture and energy attacks while you run the
> incident. If they can find any loose BTs, or clusters, they will
> activate them as well, and key them in. Just assign another auditor
> attention unit to each BT woken up. They (Targs) will attempt to escape
> through the ring when they realize the game is up. You can either let
> them, or hold them there. Once the incident is erased, they will calm
> down somewhat, and thereafter respond to standard auditing.
[Pilot:]
I didn't run into attacks, just some big black heavy beings.
But I've run off lots of stuff and this area was moving up
into the band of being "light" instead of "rough" to handle.
Running 6 in parallel seems interesting, but I didn't find it
necessary. Just hold onto one and get him through it. But I
bumped into a need to run parallels while fooling with the
big splitter in
Super Scio chapter 9. I would say now that
it was because it was out gradient and therefore the cross
copy between the beings was heavy enough to require handling
them together. But if you're bigger, then your intention is
senior and overrides the cross copy that they are stuck in,
so you can hold one's attention and push him through. The
others are still copying, so they catch this indirectly and
can then easily be blown.
Then again, drilling parallel processing is fun all by itself.
Worth doing at least once just for the hell of it.
[Ra:]
> I have found that you can handle the ruds, and then R3R each one
> through the incident very nicely. They usually have pretty good
> cognition's, and quit r/sing. Could let them leave at that point,
> up to you (most of mine didn't, wanted to hang around and get
> some auditing). Then handle each BT or cluster woken up to EP.
>
> If the Targ is still around, and interested, have him spot a difference
> between himself and you, then a similarity, repetitive till EP. He will
> then be in valence, will leave, and you will not have the liability of a
> split self running around in a Targ valence.
>
> I takes a quite a bit of confront, and the ability to handle 10
> auditing com cycles simultaneously. Heh. Somewhat of a trick, but you
> sure won't have any trouble auditing one being at a time after that.
[Pilot:]
True.
The "Targ ring" really is a wormhole. That was a smart observation.
So I drilled a bit with wormholes (separate action, no sense
getting it mixed up with Targs). Pick a point in space, lets
call it point A. Perhaps be there to some degree (if needed
for havingness & orientation). Put out a beam to point B and
then unmock the beam alternately a few times, with the beam going
through the intervening distance as is usual.
Next connect from point A to point B but force the connection
by postulate without crossing the intervening space, but
allow a tiny amount of distance to keep the two points
separated. Drill mocking that up and unmocking it a few times.
Now put a bit of a pull from point B back towards point A
on that connection as you mock it up (or pulling on point B
from point A). It makes a black ring in point B because
things are pulled from there back towards point A.
This is a wormhole. It is almost a black hole, but it goes
somewhere with a short tube that is far less than the distance
between the two points. There is much fun to be had with these.
This is the next level above drilling with simple 3 dimensional
beams.
Then I got back to handling Targs and blew off some more as
I mentioned earlier.
Next I started looking around for Filbert's tribunal etc.
and also trying to follow the Targ ring wormhole and making
copies of it and changing its color etc. until everything
seemed to fall into place.
It is a multipoint wormhole, like having a many to one named
pipe in server software (many users connecting to the same
address). Billions of end points on one side, all connecting
to a single destination point. The destination point is white
rather than black because that is where the outflow side is,
and it is brilliant white, that is the big light.
Where it exits is not the real place where we were sentenced
to Earth. It is a copy (complete with a mocked up tribunal etc.).
And it is the entry point to the between lives implant sequence.
If you grab onto a body while you are still also holding
your current body, the ring in the current body exerts enough
pull to keep the ring in the other body from shifting you.
If, however, you are really between lives and grab onto the
ring of an unoccupied body (intending to pick it up), you get
sucked down the wormhole and end up in the mockup of the
sentencing tribunal (which restimulates being sentenced to
Earth). And there the Targs blanket you and push you into
the BLI sequence.
That is what a Targ does. They blanket and enforce agreements.
If your big enough, you blanket them instead and they get easy
to handle.
And of course if you do a bit of drilling on mocking up
wormholes, you're not going to get pulled around by them
anymore (unless you feel like it).
And of course one should run a bit of charge off of times
that they blanketed others and enforced agreements and emotions
in on them.
But note that everything like this should be left until the
person starts bumping into it. That's the easy way.
============
On 8 Mar 99,
[email protected] (Paul Misiunas) responded to Ra's
post with the following on "Pilot FYI:Between Lives And Targs"
[Paul:]
# If auditing should be performed for the sake of auditing, then by all
# means, spot every known and unknown type of entity imaginable (and be
# sure to be creative and make up entirely "new" ones too!). That should
# keep you busy for... well, let's just say a long long time.
#
# Target Tags, whether electronic or not, have their use, as do all
# entities, but sooner or later you'll tire of the "entity approach".
#
# The "trick" isn't the number of comm cycles that you can hold with
# entities, or how well you can spot "worm holes", "dimensions",
# "mirrored illusion universe" or any other flowery spacation term. No
# matter the number of rundowns that you put yourself through, you will
# still not be able to escape yourself.
#
# That's not to say that I don't believe some entities should be dealt
# with, it's just that making it a "life's work" will surely keep you
# busy and out of the way for a while.
#
# Handle the incident and move on. Why "handle" the Targ and that
# Targ's Targ and your split pieces Targs, and your car's Targs and 10
# Targs all at the same time...
#
# If the actual incident isn't handled, the Targs won't be either. But
# sometimes handling the secondary is a better gradient for some.
#
# That's my opinion. Your mileage will definitely vary.
#
# Paul
#
http://fza.org
[Pilot:]
Paul makes a very good point.
One can go overboard on handling entities.
Handling them does make a difference. I feel like I used to be
muffled in cotton.
But they are never basic. Under all these distractions its
always you, never an outside source.
When you do start running into them, then you get busy and
handle, but the target is to get them out of the way and get
back to running your own case.
If you bump into the Targs because they are the next thing in
view and you're not assigning any cause to them but just handling
something which is in the way of seeing deeper, then they are
fairly easy to handle. But if you were to dig these things
up with the attitude that they were doing things to you and
responsible for the condition that you are in (and one has
been effect of them, so its easy to do that), then you are
going to have one hell of a time handling them.
That could make the difference between spending years on
handling some type of entity instead of just doing a few
sessions to an automatic blow and a cog that puts you at
cause over them and beyond their ability to affect you.
This is important enough that I'm posting a separate write up
on entity handling.
Best,
The Pilot
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. . . Oh, and where is God on that one? Are you listening God? How about giving me what I want for a change 
(and make some of course, throw stones!) 
(this lasted a bit longer - to 2009), to a fairly sane, recovering ex-cultie, who actually makes a decent living part-time processing, and full-time researching. 
