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Pilot'sPost Z38
Life Static - Static and the Beginning
From Post 18 – December 1997
On 27 Dec 97, "Bob" <[email protected]> posted
on subject Pilot's Super Scio Book, question about"
> Can anyone explain this one to me?? I was following it up to here. But
> this total baffles me!
> ---------
[Pilot:]
Note that the following is from Chapter 2 of the Super Scio book.
>> In the beginning, the zero-infinite life static conceived of space.
>> And in the concept of space, is the concept of separation.
>> And the only thing there was which could be separated was the life static itself.
If you go back before anything exists, then there is no matter,
energy, space, or time, obviously.
Matter assumes that there is a place to locate it in.
Energy assumes that there is something which can move.
Time assumes that there is already something there which can
change.
Space requires that something be separate. Usually we simply
have it be a separation of matter. A chair over here and a
table over there and therefore you have space in between them.
In other words, we usually define space in terms of matter and
energy. But that gives us a circular definition.
So our initial occurrence of space has to be done without any
matter or energy to separate. In fact we are saying that this
is before anything exists, therefore there is nothing which
can be separated. Except of course for that which I'm referring
to as the life static in the above.
I like to call this thing a nothingness with potential. Hubbard
like to refer to it as the static or a life static. Homer likes
to call it the unmanifest. Enid likes "no thing" (rather than
nothing). These all seem to be correct to me. We don't really
have a good word for it. You could also say God unmanifest, but
you would have to drop tons of baggage that is attached to the
word God, remember that we are talking here about a point
prior to everything, so there is not yet even a thought process
possible.
You could also say that this is an attempt to spot the first
thought, to deduce what it had to be. With nothing yet there
to think about, I am suggesting that the initial thought, the
first thing conceived of, is the idea of separation.
So one thinks of separation first, and in doing that, one
separates. Then one thinks of mocking up things to separate,
but that is already two thoughts.
[ Super Scio]
>> But the basic life static which is the unchanging nothingness is senior to
>> space time and therefore cannot be affected by this separation. It is not
>> made less by it, and therefore it may again separate. And from the view of
>> the basic nothingness, the separations cannot be before or after each other
>> because it is indeed timeless, but from the lesser view of that which is
>> separated, the separated almost statics can conceive that one separated
>> before another and therefore we have time.
The basic idea here is that the top level nothingness with potential
is senior to space and time and therefore is not within a time
stream or in any location and therefore does not have a consecutive
sequence of events.
That would be the only true static. Obviously, we are not completely
static, we experience events and there is a sequence, one thing
happening after another.
So this true static would not be changed by the separation having
occurred, only the part that separated changed. So the true
static would tend to have more separations because the initial
conditions for separation still exist (the true static was not
changed, so it is still set up with the potential for separation).
So there are lots of separations. Each partial static that
separated is separate and therefore individual to some slight
degree, although the only individuality initially would be the
time of separation (one separated before or after another).
If the true static is outside any time or space, then it would
simply encompass these things as a timeless concept of separation,
but from our view, we would see a sequence of individual separations.
[ Super Scio:]
>> And the lesser near-statics are also nothingness with the potential for
>> infinite creation, but they have the experience of time and therefore the
>> experience of what they have created.
>>
>> Once those who can conceive are separated from the basic nothingness, they
>> then proceed to apply further separations to bring about the creation of
>> existence. A positive and a negative can be pulled out of nothing and the
>> net equation remains the same. 1 - 1 = 0 = 2 - 2 = 0 = 256 - 256 etc. The
>> only difference between these is consideration and consideration is the
>> product of thought. Infinite matter and energy may therefore be generated by
>> thought alone."
>> ---------
One positive charge plus one negative charge equals zero. In the
sum total, there is nothing there. Unless you separate them. Then
you have a positive here and a negative there.
Two positive charges plus two negative charges equals zero. Again
there is nothing there in the sum total. They equal zero and they
also equal (1 minus 1) or (200 - 200) or whatever.
In total there is nothing there and there never has been except
that we choose to separate the two halves of nothing, and these
half nothings are something.
[ "Bob":]
> Ok, I understand that there was some kind of static being or nothingness.
> Whether this was a being or a thing, I know not. But then there was a
> separation of some sort? Then Pilot talk about "separations" (plural). This
> is where I really get lost. I thought he was talking about a separation not
> separations. And if, in fact he is talking about other separations, where
> did they come from. Did this "nothingness" separate itself again or
> something? Maybe some more explanation or clarifying would help me out.
> Seems really complicated for me. Never did understand Hubbard's "Factors".
>
> Ok, so there are two sub-nothingnesses. And they have the experience of
> time. Ok. I think I can see that. But what "creations" have these two
> experienced, as Pilot states?? Maybe the three are actually one and they
> have experienced the creation of themselves?? I don't know. It's as if
> there should be a paragraph after each sentence to expand on each statement,
> at least for smart people like me.
Unfortunately true. These were my research notes on going beyond
Hubbard, so there is too much assumed. It would help to have read
Phoenix Lectures or heard one of the tapes on The Factors.
I tried to clarify this a bit (above), so maybe it will get
across this time. It is a difficult area to talk about because
it is outside of our normal frame of reference.
[ "Bob":]
> Ok, maybe I should word clear these two, but what is the difference between
> consideration and thought? Maybe I need to do a demo. Ha-ha. Never did
> have much success with those demos or clay creations. Always got the clay
> underneath my fingernails.
In this case I was using "consideration" in the sense of holding
onto a consideration as in "Jill had a consideration that she must
wear an ankle length dress to be respectable". In other words,
retaining an idea as opposed to actively thinking about it. It is
common to use it this way in Scientology. Of course both of these
are "thought" in the broader sense.
Depending on which definitions of the words "thought" and "consideration"
are being used, there are cases where they would mean the same thing
and there are cases where they have slightly different connotations.
In the phrase "consideration is the product of thought", it should be
obvious that "consideration" is being used in a retentive sense and
"thought" here is being used in an active sense.
Word clearing alone is generally inadequate in cases like this.
If one didn't know what the word meant, it would help to look it
up. But here it is the context that tells you which definition
is being used in a situation where the subtle shades of meaning
are the distinguishing factor.
Old time Scientologists were expected to think about and figure
out things. Modern ones, taught on a diet of too much word clearing
and too little contemplation rarely understand things like the
factors even after looking up every damn word in the document.
As to clay demos, you could try doing them with jello instead.
Then you can lick the residue off of your fingers (just joking).
[ "Bob":]
> I can understand how matter and energy can be generated from thought, but
> how does addition and subtraction equations come out of all this
> nothingness?
Something must do the thinking. Namely us.
[ "Bob":]
> All this is quite interesting, but my eyebrows are scrunching too
> much about this.
[Pilot:]
That is why I wrote the Self Clearing book. You could just work
through that. And the tiny amount of "spiritual orientation"
given in the introduction of that book is not essential to working
through the chapters, so leave it for later if it is in your way.
======================
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Pilot'sPost Z38
Life Static - Static and the Beginning
From Post 18 – December 1997
On 27 Dec 97, "Bob" <[email protected]> posted
on subject Pilot's Super Scio Book, question about"
> Can anyone explain this one to me?? I was following it up to here. But
> this total baffles me!
> ---------
[Pilot:]
Note that the following is from Chapter 2 of the Super Scio book.
>> In the beginning, the zero-infinite life static conceived of space.
>> And in the concept of space, is the concept of separation.
>> And the only thing there was which could be separated was the life static itself.
If you go back before anything exists, then there is no matter,
energy, space, or time, obviously.
Matter assumes that there is a place to locate it in.
Energy assumes that there is something which can move.
Time assumes that there is already something there which can
change.
Space requires that something be separate. Usually we simply
have it be a separation of matter. A chair over here and a
table over there and therefore you have space in between them.
In other words, we usually define space in terms of matter and
energy. But that gives us a circular definition.
So our initial occurrence of space has to be done without any
matter or energy to separate. In fact we are saying that this
is before anything exists, therefore there is nothing which
can be separated. Except of course for that which I'm referring
to as the life static in the above.
I like to call this thing a nothingness with potential. Hubbard
like to refer to it as the static or a life static. Homer likes
to call it the unmanifest. Enid likes "no thing" (rather than
nothing). These all seem to be correct to me. We don't really
have a good word for it. You could also say God unmanifest, but
you would have to drop tons of baggage that is attached to the
word God, remember that we are talking here about a point
prior to everything, so there is not yet even a thought process
possible.
You could also say that this is an attempt to spot the first
thought, to deduce what it had to be. With nothing yet there
to think about, I am suggesting that the initial thought, the
first thing conceived of, is the idea of separation.
So one thinks of separation first, and in doing that, one
separates. Then one thinks of mocking up things to separate,
but that is already two thoughts.
[ Super Scio]
>> But the basic life static which is the unchanging nothingness is senior to
>> space time and therefore cannot be affected by this separation. It is not
>> made less by it, and therefore it may again separate. And from the view of
>> the basic nothingness, the separations cannot be before or after each other
>> because it is indeed timeless, but from the lesser view of that which is
>> separated, the separated almost statics can conceive that one separated
>> before another and therefore we have time.
The basic idea here is that the top level nothingness with potential
is senior to space and time and therefore is not within a time
stream or in any location and therefore does not have a consecutive
sequence of events.
That would be the only true static. Obviously, we are not completely
static, we experience events and there is a sequence, one thing
happening after another.
So this true static would not be changed by the separation having
occurred, only the part that separated changed. So the true
static would tend to have more separations because the initial
conditions for separation still exist (the true static was not
changed, so it is still set up with the potential for separation).
So there are lots of separations. Each partial static that
separated is separate and therefore individual to some slight
degree, although the only individuality initially would be the
time of separation (one separated before or after another).
If the true static is outside any time or space, then it would
simply encompass these things as a timeless concept of separation,
but from our view, we would see a sequence of individual separations.
[ Super Scio:]
>> And the lesser near-statics are also nothingness with the potential for
>> infinite creation, but they have the experience of time and therefore the
>> experience of what they have created.
>>
>> Once those who can conceive are separated from the basic nothingness, they
>> then proceed to apply further separations to bring about the creation of
>> existence. A positive and a negative can be pulled out of nothing and the
>> net equation remains the same. 1 - 1 = 0 = 2 - 2 = 0 = 256 - 256 etc. The
>> only difference between these is consideration and consideration is the
>> product of thought. Infinite matter and energy may therefore be generated by
>> thought alone."
>> ---------
One positive charge plus one negative charge equals zero. In the
sum total, there is nothing there. Unless you separate them. Then
you have a positive here and a negative there.
Two positive charges plus two negative charges equals zero. Again
there is nothing there in the sum total. They equal zero and they
also equal (1 minus 1) or (200 - 200) or whatever.
In total there is nothing there and there never has been except
that we choose to separate the two halves of nothing, and these
half nothings are something.
[ "Bob":]
> Ok, I understand that there was some kind of static being or nothingness.
> Whether this was a being or a thing, I know not. But then there was a
> separation of some sort? Then Pilot talk about "separations" (plural). This
> is where I really get lost. I thought he was talking about a separation not
> separations. And if, in fact he is talking about other separations, where
> did they come from. Did this "nothingness" separate itself again or
> something? Maybe some more explanation or clarifying would help me out.
> Seems really complicated for me. Never did understand Hubbard's "Factors".
>
> Ok, so there are two sub-nothingnesses. And they have the experience of
> time. Ok. I think I can see that. But what "creations" have these two
> experienced, as Pilot states?? Maybe the three are actually one and they
> have experienced the creation of themselves?? I don't know. It's as if
> there should be a paragraph after each sentence to expand on each statement,
> at least for smart people like me.
Unfortunately true. These were my research notes on going beyond
Hubbard, so there is too much assumed. It would help to have read
Phoenix Lectures or heard one of the tapes on The Factors.
I tried to clarify this a bit (above), so maybe it will get
across this time. It is a difficult area to talk about because
it is outside of our normal frame of reference.
[ "Bob":]
> Ok, maybe I should word clear these two, but what is the difference between
> consideration and thought? Maybe I need to do a demo. Ha-ha. Never did
> have much success with those demos or clay creations. Always got the clay
> underneath my fingernails.
In this case I was using "consideration" in the sense of holding
onto a consideration as in "Jill had a consideration that she must
wear an ankle length dress to be respectable". In other words,
retaining an idea as opposed to actively thinking about it. It is
common to use it this way in Scientology. Of course both of these
are "thought" in the broader sense.
Depending on which definitions of the words "thought" and "consideration"
are being used, there are cases where they would mean the same thing
and there are cases where they have slightly different connotations.
In the phrase "consideration is the product of thought", it should be
obvious that "consideration" is being used in a retentive sense and
"thought" here is being used in an active sense.
Word clearing alone is generally inadequate in cases like this.
If one didn't know what the word meant, it would help to look it
up. But here it is the context that tells you which definition
is being used in a situation where the subtle shades of meaning
are the distinguishing factor.
Old time Scientologists were expected to think about and figure
out things. Modern ones, taught on a diet of too much word clearing
and too little contemplation rarely understand things like the
factors even after looking up every damn word in the document.
As to clay demos, you could try doing them with jello instead.
Then you can lick the residue off of your fingers (just joking).
[ "Bob":]
> I can understand how matter and energy can be generated from thought, but
> how does addition and subtraction equations come out of all this
> nothingness?
Something must do the thinking. Namely us.
[ "Bob":]
> All this is quite interesting, but my eyebrows are scrunching too
> much about this.
[Pilot:]
That is why I wrote the Self Clearing book. You could just work
through that. And the tiny amount of "spiritual orientation"
given in the introduction of that book is not essential to working
through the chapters, so leave it for later if it is in your way.
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