The "Power" of The Reactive Mind and its Antidotes

[me myself & i]

Meant? Whose intention was that?

We dunno either uniquemand, however, as an outside wildly theety-tweetie'(?) possibility, perhaps there is a level of Conscious Being/Consciousness that is distinctly 'above' or 'higher' or 'greater' than that of man' in terms of function, as well as being higher/greater/prior to (the consciousness of) man, in terms of form. Thus being with the power of intention, regarding man (/mankind).

Of course such silliness of concept was as laughable to Hubbard in his time as it is to any dedicated scientologist in the world today, in theirs.

Ron made it clear The Person is the Thetan yes? (make no mistake about it)? Well then, the 'person' must be endowed with what the Thetan is endowed with, being chiefly, Cause over them Selves (pardon the plural, it's a natural pun).

By way of implicit or explicit means, most religions throughout world history have put forward the idea/concept that universal mankind (and thus individual man) is of a level of consciousness that is below or lesser than that of a consciousness that is higher and greater than man (which higher and greater level of consciousness preceeded and predated man).

In Rons spiritual cosmology such a concept of there being any consciousness higher than his, & therefore all of mankind's, was put to rest quickly with his bolt-out-of-the-blue 'discoveries' that proved the consciousness of man and the consciousness of god were one in the same consciousness. Where 'God' was the word most backward primitive implanted theologies and religions used to formulate the concept. But they were dealing with implanted concepts, while Ron was dealing with Truth. Thus....

Ron discovered Thetan.

In a bold twist of Neitzsche's bold statement that 'God is Dead', Ron said: God is Alive (and 'You are He'). Lol. Well he didn't actually say God was dead or that God was alive or that You were He or that You are God, he merely went to great lengths to make sure you imagined 'You Could Be God'. Provided certain qualifications were met by you. Financial and otherwise. It's all been thoroughly researched (and meticulously codifed by Ron) at great risk to his personal well-being, for you.

Hence The Tech of Thetanical Being was born. A one-up-man-ship (of spiritual sorts) to his former mentors thelema and thoth.

Where is the dotted line? I'm signin up. Lol. & the rest as they say, is history. The Scientology Homo-Novis proving once and for all that man is God (circa 2009). Or will be right after the next level of Hubbard's Spiritual Training. Lol.

Perhaps there 'is' a level of Conscious Being that is Greater and Higher and More Beautiful than the level of Conscious Being of Man & Mankind Uniquemand? And perhaps Lord Xenu and his Loyal Officers were a figment of imagination?

Perhaps Ron simply misunderstood the relationship between a person (being temporal) and the Thetan that animated that person (being Eternal)? And almost by accident discovered that persons that wanted to be God, all the world over, flocked to his religion in droves? (with money in fist over hand).

Who knows?

As for Good Twins comment. I'm with her all the way.

Peace follows stillness just as carnage follows war.

mmi

 

[Telepathetic]

Good post!

Ditto!

 

[Pixie]

You have to trust yourself and take the red pill. Whatever form that enlightenment takes.

Then you have to trust yourself again and sort out for yourself how that change in perception affects how you deal with life and living. While remaining true to what you consider yourself.

Sometimes people, spirits and beings think too god-damned much.

Thank you GreyLensman. I agree, and in fact I feel I have.... literally just taken that in the last few days... swallowed that red pill

You hit the nail on the head about having 'trust' in oneself, that was a hard one for me, even after all this time I couldn't trust myself to make the correct descisions about anything, I was still confused and mixed up even though I was convincing myself everything was fine. I guess I was perhaps too busy learning to, or trying to learn to trust others again instead of putting myself first.

As for thinking 'too' much... ... and as I said, only in the last few days have I become aware of that one too. Geez, this is turning out to be a longer journey 'out' than expected!!

Don't get stuck in a tube.

Tube? Who are you calling a tube??

Thanks again.

 

[Operating DB]

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And your personality, as well as your self-identity, was always Hubbard's target with "GPM tech" and it's later incarnation, the False Purpose Rundown.

Alanzo, really spot on with your first post on this trhead. I totally agree and this is a great thread. I find it "entrancing". lol

Does anyone have any references to what the False Purpose Rundown is and the procedure and commands? I'm rather confused about it and also wondered if it has changed since when it came out in the 80's. I remember that the EO wanted me to do this Rundown (in late '84) and I refused and then blew for good. My remembrance on what is was back then doesn't seem to jive with what I've been reading on these forums.

 

[Alanzo]

Alanzo, really spot on with your first post on this trhead. I totally agree and this is a great thread. I find it "entrancing". lol

Does anyone have any references to what the False Purpose Rundown is and the procedure and commands? I'm rather confused about it and also wondered if it has changed since when it came out in the 80's. I remember that the EO wanted me to do this Rundown (in late '84) and I refused and then blew for good. My remembrance on what is was back then doesn't seem to jive with what I've been reading on these forums.

Well, I'm not trained in its delivery, but I've had hundreds and hundreds of hours delivered to me. And I was studying GPM tech on the BC when I was getting it.

There are people on this board who have delivered it as auditors and C/Ses, and who have done the BC, too.

Bea is one such person.

Being unqualified to speak has never stopped me before, so I'll just lay into this one.

First you cough up an overt to your auditor.

Then, you go earlier similar on that overt until you get to the bottom of its chain.

Then the auditor asks about the intention you had that prompted you to commit that overt.

Then, if it is an "evil" or "destructive" intention, you run that intention back earlier/similar until you get to the first time you had that intention.

Then, the auditor asks if there was a confusion which occured just before you had the intention to "_______________".

You answer. If there was one, your auditor asks you to go to the first moment of that confusion.

Spotting the first moment of the confusion gives you permission (positive suggestion) to "blow the whole chain".

I only did a few dozens of hours as a staff member, and so most of my FPRD auditing was voluntary. A lot of SO members have had lots more FPRD auditing than I have, but usually not voluntarily - they got theirs mostly as staff members being "corrected" on their posts.

Delivered like that, the FPRD can be the most powerful brainwashing tool that LRH ever developed.

Delivered voluntarily and "for the PC", it can be one of the most liberating and enlightening auditing processes ever developed by LRH.

I loved almost all my FPRD auditing.

 

[uniquemand]

I disagree only with your use of the word "permission", above. I blow chains whenever I spot the thing holding them together (postulate, intention, shift in viewpoint, etc.), regardless of whether there's "permission", and whether or not it's the first on the chain.

 

[Alanzo]

I disagree only with your use of the word "permission", above. I blow chains whenever I spot the thing holding them together (postulate, intention, shift in viewpoint, etc.), regardless of whether there's "permission", and whether or not it's the first on the chain.

In hypnosis, it has always been a problem what to do with an incident once it's been run. Getting it to "blow" is always something that the hypnotist has to address, whether through a pre-suggested set-up (like "put it into the middle of the sun", or "if we really have the basic on the chain then it will all blow")

It is the point in hypno-therapy when the PC can consider that the incident "has been run" and is now "over" for him.

Hubbard set all these suggestions up in his structure of the mind, existing as chains, all with "basics" on the chain, in DMSMH.

Even the fact that you go "earlier/similar" suggests that you are heading somewhere toward a conclusion, and that conclusion is the "basic", and all you have to do is to look at it THOROUGHLY and duplicate it and it will all be over for you. You will have "erased" or "released" it.

Yet have you really ever erased anything?

You can still recall everything right?

It is your permission to let go of it now. The ritual has been performed on it. It will have no power over you any more.

It is "blown"

Look into hypnotic procedures by people other than Hubbard. You will see their handling of this.

Few Scientologists ever question the structure of the mind that Hubbard set up in DMSMH, yet all pcs are "hatted " on it.

These are the underlying, and usually uninspected, positive suggestions that make auditing "work".

Sorry for all the quotation marks...

 

[uniquemand]

yes, well, I never took Hubbard's use of the word erasure as literal. and inspection of memories, movement through the emotions which haven't been released or fully experienced, and recovery of suppressed parts of the memory (anamnesis): all of this is NOT new to Hubbard's work. It's part of classical Freudian analysis, and IMO, does "work". Whether you want to call it hypnotherapy, dianetics, analysis, or depth psychology, whatever, this is the process of recapitulation and release. The permission isn't from Hubbard or from God or from Freud, it's from yourself, and happens whenever YOU feel you have dealt with something, rather than suppressing it.

 

[uniquemand]

We dunno either uniquemand, however, as an outside wildly theety-tweetie'(?) possibility, perhaps there is a level of Conscious Being/Consciousness that is distinctly 'above' or 'higher' or 'greater' than that of man' in terms of function, as well as being higher/greater/prior to (the consciousness of) man, in terms of form. Thus being with the power of intention, regarding man (/mankind).

Of course such silliness of concept was as laughable to Hubbard in his time as it is to any dedicated scientologist in the world today, in theirs.

Ron made it clear The Person is the Thetan yes? (make no mistake about it)? Well then, the 'person' must be endowed with what the Thetan is endowed with, being chiefly, Cause over them Selves (pardon the plural, it's a natural pun).

By way of implicit or explicit means, most religions throughout world history have put forward the idea/concept that universal mankind (and thus individual man) is of a level of consciousness that is below or lesser than that of a consciousness that is higher and greater than man (which higher and greater level of consciousness preceeded and predated man).

In Rons spiritual cosmology such a concept of there being any consciousness higher than his, & therefore all of mankind's, was put to rest quickly with his bolt-out-of-the-blue 'discoveries' that proved the consciousness of man and the consciousness of god were one in the same consciousness. Where 'God' was the word most backward primitive implanted theologies and religions used to formulate the concept. But they were dealing with implanted concepts, while Ron was dealing with Truth. Thus....

Ron discovered Thetan.

In a bold twist of Neitzsche's bold statement that 'God is Dead', Ron said: God is Alive (and 'You are He'). Lol. Well he didn't actually say God was dead or that God was alive or that You were He or that You are God, he merely went to great lengths to make sure you imagined 'You Could Be God'. Provided certain qualifications were met by you. Financial and otherwise. It's all been thoroughly researched (and meticulously codifed by Ron) at great risk to his personal well-being, for you.

Hence The Tech of Thetanical Being was born. A one-up-man-ship (of spiritual sorts) to his former mentors thelema and thoth.

Where is the dotted line? I'm signin up. Lol. & the rest as they say, is history. The Scientology Homo-Novis proving once and for all that man is God (circa 2009). Or will be right after the next level of Hubbard's Spiritual Training. Lol.

Perhaps there 'is' a level of Conscious Being that is Greater and Higher and More Beautiful than the level of Conscious Being of Man & Mankind Uniquemand? And perhaps Lord Xenu and his Loyal Officers were a figment of imagination?

Perhaps Ron simply misunderstood the relationship between a person (being temporal) and the Thetan that animated that person (being Eternal)? And almost by accident discovered that persons that wanted to be God, all the world over, flocked to his religion in droves? (with money in fist over hand).

Who knows?

As for Good Twins comment. I'm with her all the way.

Peace follows stillness just as carnage follows war.

mmi

Sorry, I missed this before. Consciousnes *IS*. That's all we know for sure. We don't know if it is eternal, because we have no evidence to support that. I think it's a very wild claim to say it is eternal, since there's no reason to think so, from my perspective. However, it might be.

I disagree that it is "meant" for anything at all, because I don't believe it was created (or that the universe was created) by any one entity or group of entities. It might have been, but there is *NO* evidence to support this. While it may not make sense to us, at this point in our development, to think that the universe may have spontaneously come into being, it is just as possible that this occurred as some pre-existing entity creating it. After all, the pre-existing entity just begs the question of who or what created it. If you can buy the idea of an eternal first cause, why can't you buy an eternal universe that was never created?

Essentially, we would like there to be a maker, because it fits our way of understanding, although it doesn't actually add any meaning or understanding to what we know. We know we exist. We know the universe around us seems to exist. From there we go forward and quantify, qualify, many things. But origins? We KNOW nothing.

 

[Alanzo]

yes, well, I never took Hubbard's use of the word erasure as literal. and inspection of memories, movement through the emotions which haven't been released or fully experienced, and recovery of suppressed parts of the memory (anamnesis): all of this is NOT new to Hubbard's work. It's part of classical Freudian analysis, and IMO, does "work". Whether you want to call it hypnotherapy, dianetics, analysis, or depth psychology, whatever, this is the process of recapitulation and release. The permission isn't from Hubbard or from God or from Freud, it's from yourself, and happens whenever YOU feel you have dealt with something, rather than suppressing it.

Yes.

People are basically social.

And group rituals like auditing help you to go through the ordeal and come out on the other side of it.

They have since the beginning of our species.

 

[uniquemand]

Perhaps. I don't know when the beginning of our species was (I was absent that day). The release of emotion can occur with or without others present, as can the recovery of memory. That's what I feel is beneficial about this, as well as cognitive shifts (perspective changes) which are enabling to the person's present purposes and goals.

 

[Alanzo]

Perhaps. I don't know when the beginning of our species was (I was absent that day).

Yeah well, I studied Social Anthropology in college. Too bad it went straight over my head and I didn't recognize one bit of what I studied while becoming a Scientologist.

The release of emotion can occur with or without others present, as can the recovery of memory. That's what I feel is beneficial about this, as well as cognitive shifts (perspective changes) which are enabling to the person's present purposes and goals.

I agree fully.

Scientology auditing helped me in quite a few instances.

What didn't help was all the bullshit and lies that went with it.

Hubbard was a hypnotist.

And he lied and lied and lied.

 

[uniquemand]

Apparently, repetition of this fact makes you feel good. Hubbard was many things. Hypnotist was one, liar was another, occultist was another, novelist was another... thus the "Ron the..." series.

 

[Alan]

Hubbard was a hypnotist.

And he lied and lied and lied.

Alanzo is a hypnotist.

And he lied and lied and lies.

 

[lionheart]

I took the repetition to convey that Ron repetitively lied!

Seemed an ok linguistic device to me and a fair summary of the man.

 

[Alanzo]

Alanzo is a hypnotist.

And he lied and lied and lies.

Do you have an example of that one mental practitioner who was not trained by Hubbard who agrees with you that hypnotic states "make the being small or weak" yet?

 

[Alanzo]

Apparently, repetition of this fact makes you feel good. Hubbard was many things. Hypnotist was one, liar was another, occultist was another, novelist was another... thus the "Ron the..." series.

It does make me feel good.

"Hubbard was a hypnotist'

'He lied and lied and lied"
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It's got a kind of iambic pentameter to it, don't ya think?

Very satisfying.

 

[Night Owl]

Apparently, repetition of this fact makes you feel good. Hubbard was many things. Hypnotist was one, liar was another, occultist was another, novelist was another... thus the "Ron the..." series.

If I had time and money, I would redo the series of liar books about Hubbard's life and do exactly that.....make them:

1. Ron the Hypnotist
2. Ron the occultist & his interest in portraying satan in life
3. Ron the drug addict
4. Ron the pathological liar
5. Ron the child abuser
6. Ron and the famous bar bet

ets etc etc

Distribution would be free to scientologists, of course. That would only be right.

 

[Alanzo]

If I had time and money, I would redo the series of liar books about Hubbard's life and do exactly that.....make them:

1. Ron the Hypnotist
2. Ron the occultist & his interest in portraying satan in life
3. Ron the drug addict
4. Ron the pathological liar
5. Ron the child abuser
6. Ron and the famous bar bet

ets etc etc

Distribution would be free to scientologists, of course. That would only be right.

This can totally be done.

And it would not cost any money at all.

They can be written in Microsoft Word and issued as .pdfs

 

[uniquemand]

Or, you could just repackage the Tech Volumes from wikileaks and rename the file whatever you want. "Ron the Hypnotist" would work fine for the set.