Cherub
Back from the Dead
Hi everyone. I started a similiar thread on Xenu.net some months back, and I am interested in your thoughts
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:15 pm Post subject: The Reactive Mind Does Not Exist!
Subject description: New perculated perception after 10 years of review and research
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I have been gathering evidence of this fact for quite some time now. In fact, after believing it for 30 years then discovering there were some problems with Hubbard's definitions -- amongst other crimes -- it has been only this recent year where I have began to start adding things up. First I will sum things up.
(1) In the entire recorded history of Man's philosophies, cultures and religions, spanning perhaps at least 15,000 years, there has never been any mention or discovery of a "Reactive Mind."
(2) In the same period of time many if not most all religions and cultures allude to a Single Mind, which can be looked at in 3 types of emanations or phases of consciousness - namely, a super-conciousness, self-consciousness, and sub-consciousness. I am generalizing here and am not particularly getting into "aspects of Godhead" at this point.
However, everything started to point to the center for me as I inspected the reality that Hubbard INVENTED the entire thing. Before you immediately resist the idea and come back with reasons, think about the possibility -- for just a moment. What about all the changes which we all experienced, the Charge reduced, the BTs blown, etc.
What if .... what if.... the Reactive Mind, Hubbard's R6 Bank, is in fact just a tiny aspect of the Subconcious Mind itself? People feel "better" or get new "power" because most of the Tech is derived from ancient workable religious or magical practices -- all of which delt with the subconscious mind's training and control. Used as a form of cohersiveness and MEST enforcement, what all the auditing does is solidify that part of the subconscious mind that Hubbard has labeled "reactive mind.". Additionally, if my reasoning and deductions are correct, this will point to the greater solidification which makes that aspect of the subsconscious which acts like a Reactive Mind in fact to become more solid itself -- the exact opposite of what scientologiest believe they are doing. Yet in fact well considered with intent by the inventor of the R6 - L Ron Hubbard himself. It is auditing itself which creates the greater portion of and power of the "R6" itself by freezing the subconscious mind into a kind of stagnative density. It is an amazing self-perpetuating invention!
The Reactive Mind doesn't exist. It never did at all!
And just for starters -- this could explain why OTs, over the years, constantly complain about still not getting or being able to get what they want in life; why there is always, every few years, a new set of BTs or Upper Level problems, or perpetual discoveries of "out tech" to explain away ineffective case gain. I have watched OTs with the same personal problems as all over people 1967 -- over and over and over and over and over -- until 1997 -- and concluded they not any different than most of the people on the planet -- in fact usually appear to have more problems them everyone else -- which is par for the course when you have a cult group who considers everyone not in agreement with their desire to control the world their enemy - LOL!!
More to follow. Your thoughts?
You may view the rest of the thread at:
http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?highlight=cherub+reactive+mind&t=23383
~The Cherub~
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:15 pm Post subject: The Reactive Mind Does Not Exist!
Subject description: New perculated perception after 10 years of review and research
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I have been gathering evidence of this fact for quite some time now. In fact, after believing it for 30 years then discovering there were some problems with Hubbard's definitions -- amongst other crimes -- it has been only this recent year where I have began to start adding things up. First I will sum things up.
(1) In the entire recorded history of Man's philosophies, cultures and religions, spanning perhaps at least 15,000 years, there has never been any mention or discovery of a "Reactive Mind."
(2) In the same period of time many if not most all religions and cultures allude to a Single Mind, which can be looked at in 3 types of emanations or phases of consciousness - namely, a super-conciousness, self-consciousness, and sub-consciousness. I am generalizing here and am not particularly getting into "aspects of Godhead" at this point.
However, everything started to point to the center for me as I inspected the reality that Hubbard INVENTED the entire thing. Before you immediately resist the idea and come back with reasons, think about the possibility -- for just a moment. What about all the changes which we all experienced, the Charge reduced, the BTs blown, etc.
What if .... what if.... the Reactive Mind, Hubbard's R6 Bank, is in fact just a tiny aspect of the Subconcious Mind itself? People feel "better" or get new "power" because most of the Tech is derived from ancient workable religious or magical practices -- all of which delt with the subconscious mind's training and control. Used as a form of cohersiveness and MEST enforcement, what all the auditing does is solidify that part of the subconscious mind that Hubbard has labeled "reactive mind.". Additionally, if my reasoning and deductions are correct, this will point to the greater solidification which makes that aspect of the subsconscious which acts like a Reactive Mind in fact to become more solid itself -- the exact opposite of what scientologiest believe they are doing. Yet in fact well considered with intent by the inventor of the R6 - L Ron Hubbard himself. It is auditing itself which creates the greater portion of and power of the "R6" itself by freezing the subconscious mind into a kind of stagnative density. It is an amazing self-perpetuating invention!
The Reactive Mind doesn't exist. It never did at all!
And just for starters -- this could explain why OTs, over the years, constantly complain about still not getting or being able to get what they want in life; why there is always, every few years, a new set of BTs or Upper Level problems, or perpetual discoveries of "out tech" to explain away ineffective case gain. I have watched OTs with the same personal problems as all over people 1967 -- over and over and over and over and over -- until 1997 -- and concluded they not any different than most of the people on the planet -- in fact usually appear to have more problems them everyone else -- which is par for the course when you have a cult group who considers everyone not in agreement with their desire to control the world their enemy - LOL!!
More to follow. Your thoughts?
You may view the rest of the thread at:
http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?highlight=cherub+reactive+mind&t=23383
~The Cherub~