The Social Cost of Questioning Your Tribal Leaders

[Bill]

I'm pretty sure you didn't read this post. Because it has nothing to do with what you said above.

You are just blindly batting back.

Don't make me regret taking you off ignore.

Sorry, what was the title of this thread again?

 

[Dotey OT]

Alanzo & his ex-scientologists = Chicken Little & "The sky is falling!"

 

[freethinker]

Sorry, what was the title of this thread again?

I don't know Bill, it's your call, he is threatening to put you on ignore. That's something serious to think about.

 

[freethinker]

Oh Alanzo!

Just coming back from my daily walk in the beautiful park just besides my home.

Lot of kids playing, bicycles, a little devil dog wanted to play with me..a real devil..lolAnd suddenly I saw the kites in the sky..and it made me remember my childhood..and the sky was so blue and it is a warm August summer day. And I though of Jana and wonder if she can see me! .. And I was grateful to have this nice park and this beautiful day.

My encounterings of today were nice for the soul..so I am sorry to report you didn't make my day dark..neither your gaslighting of me being a foul- tempered woman is hurting me..to the opposite you made my day for this good laughter.

( I must admit I am a little flattered of such attention)

May I suggest to be careful since, when out of arguments, a good thing is to give up, instead of behaving childish..one is mature the other is ego driven.

Think about it
so you may accommodate of
Screeching harpy auntie Lotus!

Lotus I am appalled, such a scathing post I never expected of you. Pologize

 

[Bill]

I don't know Bill, it's your call, he is threatening to put you on ignore. That's something serious to think about.

Again! I need to watch it!

 

[lotus]

Lotus I am appalled, such a scathing post I never expected of you. Pologize

I know...

Yes I pologize!

 

[AryaZ]

All the more reason this output should be scrutinized and questioned - for precisely the reasons I have raised. "Upstats" do not deserve protection from criticism.

As I have shown, if you swallow Tony Ortega whole - meaning to accept his crap with out criticism as an Ex-Scientologist, he will damage you.

Wasn't that what we were trying to get away from by leaving the church?

 

[Alanzo]

I know...

Yes I pologize!

You do understand that I never called you a Screeching Harpy.

I'm the only Screeching Harpy on this board.

Not you.

 

[AD1950]

That's "KING" Screeching Harpy, to the rest of you.

"I am now ready to attest (Alanzo) to the state of Clear"

(Alanzo, please share the secret of OT IX. We're all counting on you).

 

[lotus]

You do understand that I never called you a Screeching Harpy.

I'm the only Screeching Harpy on this board.

Not you.

I acknowledge I read it Alanzo and appreciate we are on the road to ARC.
However I never realized before, you were a sort of grumpy female

 

[TheOriginalBigBlue]

Emma is my Goddess​

All hail Emma!

 

[I told you I was trouble]

All the more reason this output should be scrutinized and questioned - for precisely the reasons I have raised. "Upstats" do not deserve protection from criticism.

As I have shown, if you swallow Tony Ortega whole - meaning to accept his crap with out criticism as an Ex-Scientologist, he will damage you.

I realise I'm probably wasting my time responding but ... who (here) do you believe posts or even reads the UB?

I glance there on occasion (about three times a year, no more ... possibly less) not because I have anything against Tony (I don't) but because I'm not interested in the subject matter other than to laugh at it and I feel comfortable doing that right here.

Tony O is not going to damage me.

@Alanzo ... you are not going to turn us into your private army. I suspect most of us would choose death by the (real or imagined) enemy than jump in a foxhole with you, and I don't say that just to be hurtful ... you keep asking for the truth, there's my truth for today, it could change in a heartbeat though (I'm as fickle as).

 

[TheOriginalBigBlue]

No you are misinterpreting me.
I am the screeching Harpy - NOT YOU.

I am the one screeching and complaining.

I was NOT calling you a screeching Harpy!

OK. I think I get this. Alanzo is like Socrates' gadfly and we're the Athenian Senate,

(snip)
So I, men of Athens, am now far from making a defense speech
on my own behalf, as someone might suppose. I do it rather on
your behalf, so that you do not do something wrong concerning
the gift of the god to you by voting to condemn me. For if you kill me, you will not easily discover another of my sort, who—even if it is rather ridiculous to say—has simply been set upon the city by
the god, as though upon a great and well-born horse who is rather
sluggish because of his great size and needs to be awakened by
some gadfly. Just so, in fact, the god seems to me to have set me
upon the city as someone of this sort: I awaken and persuade and
reproach each one of you, and I do not stop settling down everywhere upon you the whole day. Someone else of this sort will certainly not easily arise for you, men. Well, if you obey me, you will spare me. But perhaps you may be vexed, like the drowsy when they are awakened, and if you obey Anytus and slap me, you would easily kill me. Then you would spend the rest of your lives asleep, unless the god sends you someone else in his concern for you.
(snip)

 

[Tanchi]

I realise I'm probably wasting my time responding but ... who (here) do you believe posts or even reads the UB?

I glance there on occasion (about three times a year, no more ... possibly less) not because I have anything against Tony (I don't) but because I'm not interested in the subject matter other than to laugh at it and I feel comfortable doing that right here.

Tony O is not going to damage me.

@Alanzo ... you are not going to turn us into your private army. I suspect most of us would choose death by the (real or imagined) enemy than jump in a foxhole with you, and I don't say that just to be hurtful ... you keep asking for the truth, there's my truth for today, it could change in a heartbeat though (I'm as fickle as).

I agree with you re: Tony O. The posters there are very diverse. I've seen civil debates and discussions, without name calling or condescension. There have been spats, but they never last long or turn into vendettas.

 

[Alanzo]

... you are not going to turn us into your private army. I suspect most of us would choose death by the (real or imagined) enemy than jump in a foxhole with you, and I don't say that just to be hurtful ... you keep asking for the truth, there's my truth for today, it could change in a heartbeat though (I'm as fickle as).

Stay just as you are, ityiwt.

Well away from me.

 

[Alanzo]

OK. I think I get this. Alanzo is like Socrates' gadfly and we're the Athenian Senate,

(snip)
So I, men of Athens, am now far from making a defense speech
on my own behalf, as someone might suppose. I do it rather on
your behalf, so that you do not do something wrong concerning
the gift of the god to you by voting to condemn me. For if you kill me, you will not easily discover another of my sort, who—even if it is rather ridiculous to say—has simply been set upon the city by
the god, as though upon a great and well-born horse who is rather
sluggish because of his great size and needs to be awakened by
some gadfly. Just so, in fact, the god seems to me to have set me
upon the city as someone of this sort: I awaken and persuade and
reproach each one of you, and I do not stop settling down everywhere upon you the whole day. Someone else of this sort will certainly not easily arise for you, men. Well, if you obey me, you will spare me. But perhaps you may be vexed, like the drowsy when they are awakened, and if you obey Anytus and slap me, you would easily kill me. Then you would spend the rest of your lives asleep, unless the god sends you someone else in his concern for you.
(snip)

It looks like you cut and pasted this from somewhere else. Did you?

I don't think you got all the parts of Socrates apology, except maybe the " why don't you go kill yourself" part.

That's the part you understand best, isn't it?

 

[I told you I was trouble]

Stay just as you are, ityiwt.

Well away from me.

Alright then.

 

[Alanzo]

I agree with you re: Tony O. The posters there are very diverse. I've seen civil debates and discussions, without name calling or condescension. There have been spats, but they never last long or turn into vendettas.

Diverse?

Holy shit you gotta get out more.

 

[Tanchi]

Diverse?

Holy shit you gotta get out more.

Most share a love of cats, but don't we all? I indulge in critter videos once in a while.

 

[Gib]

When was the last time you said something openly critical of Karen De La Carriere, Jeffrey Augustine, Mike Rinder or Leah Remini?

When was the last time you openly questioned - actually wrote out your question here on ESMB - anything they had to say?

I'm not saying you've never done this, Lotus. I am just asking can you show me?

I'd like to see it.

I do wish those folks would state there are no clears or OT's and get off the religion angle of Hubbard's bullshit.