@Roger ... I'm not being deliberately difficult but your response above doesn't come close to answering what was a very simple question ... are you willing and able to answer it so that it is understandable and ideally without scientology jargon or concepts?
I'll re-post it below:
Oh really, “not being difficult”? I am not buying it, having watched your history of dealing with technical info.
Above contains explicit examples of the “ be so kind as to delineate here, for the readers of ESMB, the powers and/or positive virtues, attributes, capacities (and anything else that you consider relevant) which you/Alan Walter gained from your own efforts in this area?” that you asked for which are in the material you are attempting to debunk.
Example: “infinite aliveness, infinite powers, infinite duplication, infinite permeation, infinite intelligence, infinite abilities, infinite cleverness, infinite strengths, infinite skills, infinite creation, infinite love, infinite truth, infinite harmony, infinite knowledge, infinite know-how, infinite responsibility, infinite control, infinite experience, infinite exchange and infinite integrity” Also this line: “the ability to create and to perceive.”
Of course, all these abilities, powers and faculties can be either negated or practiced negatively.
And that is what I observe of you, you practice Anti-knowing along with many of the other negations of spiritual virtues and practices.
In actuality, there is no possibility of “proving” anything to folks like you who a) negate what is presented to them and who, b) refuse to carry out the testing and analysis needed to actually learn what is available to be discovered. You see, nothing can be “proved” to negators, one can only prove things for oneself by honest investigation of the matter presented.
Hence, I am not biting any further . . . I only posted to your earlier faux-request to take the opportunity to put some good info on the board.
Yes, I too would like to know in what way is it all worthwhile in the aftermath?
What will be gained and what will be lost?
You seem to be in excellent shape both mentally and physically but is that more the result of years of physically demanding activities such as swimming or is it as much to do with the pursuit of what we're discussing here?
Dagwoodgum got it right.
He asks:
“(I) would like to know in what way is it all worthwhile in the aftermath?
What will be gained and what will be lost?”
In simple terms, Daggie, what has been lost is, in my case, nearly all of my own self-negation, self doubt, and many, many resultant inabilities and incapacities. Equally important has been the vanishment of unwanted and involuntary emotions, in particular the fears that are common to folks.
I have attained the experiential certainty that I am an immortal spiritual presence that will continue to exist, no matter what; and am having a ball dealing with life as it is in the physical universe.
I have over the years posted some verifiable examples of recovered natural faculties, abilities and powers here on ESMB. Examples:
Beginning in 1959, I attained a state of being free from being overwhelmed by old mental imagery:
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...-Wrong-and-Why&p=217560&viewfull=1#post217560
Blowing the physical Universe with Max
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...he-8-OT-levels&p=214820&viewfull=1#post214820
Since then, I have experienced a marked upgrade of my ability to interface with and deal with the physical universe.
Being at cause over “death, the in-between-life and the choice of my next body”—1963. As I am now wont to say, “Death itself is no problem, it is actually a rather calming and pleasant experience: it is the dying that is the bitch.”
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?9333-Ascension-Experience&p=198701&viewfull=1#post198701
I have achieved a state of knowing and empowered presence as a spiritual Being and intense awareness. And this has led to various telepathic perceptions and capacities. Examples:
My ’68 story with the old lady:
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...ss-Experiences&p=236579&viewfull=1#post236579
In around 1974 I was due to fly to Glasgow from London on the Shuttle, but on the prior Sunday, I telepathically saw the future event of the plane down in the wrong place, in the rain, with folks all pissed off making their way away from the plane (it was not at a terminal). I asked my OT buddy in East Grinstead what he could pick up, explaining the plane was coming down at 9:30 in some sort of emergency landing. But he could see nothing. Thus, on the Monday I went to my office in London instead of taking the flight to Glasgow. Around 10:00am on the Monday, my buddy from E.G. phoned me with the news that the plane came down at an emergency airport at 9:30am (just as I had predicted, my buddy pointed out) due to a lightening strike by staff at the airport in Glasgow resulting in the plane being diverted. Marcus Allen, is the guy who rang me in London. He is still alive and can verify these facts if you need.
I routinely now exchange telepathic communications with those spiritually close to me even though they may be thousands of miles away physically. Also our cat can be affected by my telepathically projected imagery. Prior to using the tech I have I was totally occluded in this repsect.
On “Solidity” and counter-forces
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?23469-Solidity&p=581525&viewfull=1#post581525
Post #15 on this thread speaks to the way I can now, and do, relate to others. It is a very different scenario compared to how I was before benefitting from various techs:
On Virtues and their dichotomies:
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?23391-Gratitude...&p=580348&viewfull=1#post580348
Here is a write up by Alan regarding the actual sequence of changes in aspect, relationship and ability one progresses through as one properly processes areas of one’s existence. The truth is, we are natively gifted with enormous capacities and powers . . . all it takes is to clean them up and to start properly using them
Alan on part of Process basics
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...d-PROCESS-BASICS&p=69787&viewfull=1#post69787
On the second question you asked:
You seem to be in excellent shape both mentally and physically but is that more the result of years of physically demanding activities such as swimming or is it as much to do with the pursuit of what we're discussing here?
I was involved the the research into optimizing athletic performance from about 1952 with Forbes Carlile (later he was the coach of the Aussie Olympic scene) We delved into anything that would help, nutrition, psychology, hypnosis (an embarrassing news article on that bit) and all the usual of the day, "positive think stuff," plus yoga, Emile Coué, etc. Even after getting into Scn in 1957, this in furtherance of my research of upgrading athletic performance, I also researched Rudolph Steiner's Anthroposphy.
So, while I did, for a number of years, engage in extreme physical exercise, it was all based on and related to my spiritual empowerment and the raising of awareness. Thus, what began as a physical enterprise soon shifted to investigation into and the practicing of our true abilities and powers to perform which are all based in our spiritual existence as their source.
Interestingly enough, one of the most important elements of any performance is the power to control your
awareness. My definition (and Alan agreed it) of "attention" is that it is directed/focused awareness. When you have true and complete control of your awareness, amazing things are possible. This experienced by me many times during competition: I won championships because of it.
Of course, as you know I have researched nutrition very thoroughly, and that has played an important role in my continued physical health. Hence I have no physical ailments or concerns interfering with or distracting me away from the spiritual endeavors I am pursuing.
The fact is, with any research project, and mine has been going for close to 70 years, one strikes both gold and dry holes. The trick is to honestly test and investigate what is offered or claimed by others to be worthwhile . . . and then validate the results you get.
This being already a bit long, I’ll reply to your sharkie thing next in another post.
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