The worst single thing about Scientology...

[HelluvaHoax!]

OMG, this is hilarious! I have only listened to about one minute of it and I am on the floor. I had to comment. Jeez, it's like he's all coked up or something. Seriously, he seems like he's on drugs.

I have never seen Pat Broeker speak before. I gotta say that I can sorta see how Miscavige yanked the reigns.

I am going to continue watching now...you weren't kidding about the lip smacking.

Said with absolute certitude about Hubbard...

"He finished his job....What he came to do, he did!"​

Yeah sure, we believe you. Ron achieved all his goals. The planet earth got handled. It's now a world without war, a world without criminality and a world without insanity. Hey, Loyal Officer, pick up a freakin newspaper, will ya?!

Scientology makes people into such f*cking liars!

And they stupidly applauded when he told them that before they die all they need to do is come into the AO and read and demo the bulletin and they will master death.

A dorky, nervous, lip-smacking guy in a navy costume assures them that death is no biggie. Hey, when you're not busy, pick up a Starbucks frappuccino and stop by for a couple hours and you can easily transcend the greatest single mystery in existence that mankind does not have the first clue about.

THIS nervous and jerky lip-smacking guy has the ultimate answer to life and death, right?

What a pathetic hoax!

 

[MrNobody]

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I have seen that video; it was easily found at an earlier time.

I could not locate it today on several Google searches. Maybe someone knows where that video is.

There is also an interesting thread on "Is Greg Wilhere evil or is he only a Scientologist" which had some great posts.

Anybody know where that Wilhere "Briefing" video is? Disapeared???

I was, however, successfully able to locate another "Briefing" from a very senior and loyal officer of the Salvation Navy. I found it at the intersection of Altitude Avenue and Stupid Street.

It's "lip-smackin" good! (literally)

SEVERE CRINGE WARNING!!!​

[video=youtube;FJE7ZcWD6vA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJE7ZcWD6vA[/video]​

One sentence from that video: "We also BTW have the OT level that is going to be done immediately after every Thetan discards his or her body."

 

[Veda]

Robert Vaughn Young was one of the "insiders" at the time of Hubbard's death. From 8:22 - 8:55 he speaks frankly about the "event." Could anyone imagine either Marty or Mike, of the LRH anti-besmirching society, speaking with such simple honestly about L. Ron?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhULw6qarW4&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8jg1BmAuqQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrMBSZbe4XI

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

One sentence from that video: "We also BTW have the OT level that is going to be done immediately after every Thetan discards his or her body."

One sentence from that video:
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"We also BTW have the OT level that is going to be done
immediately after every Thetan discards his or her body."

One sentence from ESMB.
"We also BTW have the OT level that is going to be done
immediately after every Thetan discards Scientology." ​

 

[Jachs]

Apologies for the derail/ continuation but....

Where could Pat Broker be, i recall seeing Jim Logan posting about Annie, but nothing about Pat, i gather after being with Hubbard Pat knew how to as-is his identity, or hes in paid for witness protection out of the kindness of the god-father Ron. who "takes care of his own"

I cant see Marty besmirching a valeturdinarian who 'went off' into the atrophy level, its part of Hubbard that can be 'resuscitated', i am surprised however that LRH wasnt C/S'd for pole marching after his stroke to increase circulation.

 

[Gadfly]

I was at the LRH Death Event at Flag. I remember noticing how "out of it" Pat Broeker was. He seemed incredibly incompetent and unable to speak comfortably in front of people. This is how I "made sense" of his obvious strange behavior (at the time).

1. Pat was with LRH for many years working on "extreme upper OT levels".

2. Pat was isolated and out of comm with most "normal people".

3. Pat was probably immersed in "out of body" processes and techniques, and spending so much time doing such things made it "rough" or "difficult" for him to have to contact and deal with a "meat body".

Isn't it amazing what INSANITY one can and must wrap oneself up in to "make sense" of any of the MANY contradictions and strange behaviors of Scientology? :confused2:

One would have to REALLY be in SEVERE denial NOT to have noticed how fucked up Broeker was at the event. Granted many Scientolgosts ARE in THAT - severe denial. But, I do remember talking with some Scientologists back then, both staff and public, and they really LIKED my "explanation" of Broeker's obvious discomfort and inability to stand there and communicate. The explanation fit in so well with other "data" from the event - advanced OT levels, doing them "out of body", blah-blah-blah. Gotta keep the fantasy alive!

And, on this:

"He (LRH) finished his job....What he came to do, he did!"



That is just so "Scientology". Ron "intended", and Ron "completed his cycles of actions as intended". Ron "made it go right", Ron was so "OT". Ron "came to Earth to help free Man once and for all". Endless nonsense . . . . .

 

[Challenge]

OMG, this is hilarious! I have only listened to about one minute of it and I am on the floor. I had to comment. Jeez, it's like he's all coked up or something. Seriously, he seems like he's on drugs.

I have never seen Pat Broeker speak before. I gotta say that I can sorta see how Miscavige yanked the reigns.

I am going to continue watching now...you weren't kidding about the lip smacking.

I agree. He looks, speaks, and acts as if he is seriously drugged up.
I dunno what kind of drug would make a person so obviously lose his "TRs", but whatever it is, I don't want any.
As another observation...he appears to be in terror. Maybe of saying a 'wrong thing'.



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[Sindy]

I agree. He looks, speaks, and acts as if he is seriously drugged up.
I dunno what kind of drug would make a person so obviously lose his "TRs", but whatever it is, I don't want any.
As another observation...he appears to be in terror. Maybe of saying a 'wrong thing'.



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He's not a very good liar which, I can only assume, is why he's no longer around.

In Scientology, only the liars survive. I just realized that Scientology simply boils down to lying. One's status in Scientology is directly proportional to one's ability to lie and be lied to.

 

[Challenge]

One sentence from that video:
​

"We also BTW have the OT level that is going to be done
immediately after every Thetan discards his or her body."

One sentence from ESMB.
"We also BTW have the OT level that is going to be done
immediately after every Thetan discards Scientology." ​

I had a really hilarious conversation on the 'phone with some fool that cos had put on their 'phone' lines. It was some time after this announcement, had to be about 1987 or 88. So he was saying that they had this new OT level that totally handled it. I asked him if it was done after NOTs. He said that it was to be done after the thetan dropped his body. I said "O. You mean I'd have to drop my body to get it?"

well... you know... I think I am funny, and I burst into raucous laughter and hung up.
poor guy. he was prolly one of the mildly mentally ill that they got in there to ''man up the phones".

I never heard that they actually sold such a R/D.

How about it? You who 'got in' in the '90s. Was cos promoting an "after bodydeath R/D?

 

[Gadfly]

I had a really hilarious conversation on the 'phone with some fool that cos had put on their 'phone' lines. It was some time after this announcement, had to be about 1987 or 88. So he was saying that they had this new OT level that totally handled it. I asked him if it was done after NOTs. He said that it was to be done after the thetan dropped his body. I said "O. You mean I'd have to drop my body to get it?"

well... you know... I think I am funny, and I burst into raucous laughter and hung up.
poor guy. he was prolly one of the mildly mentally ill that they got in there to ''man up the phones".

I never heard that they actually sold such a R/D.

How about it? You who 'got in' in the '90s. Was cos promoting an "after bodydeath R/D?

As far as I know, the LRH Death Event went like so many earlier "historical events" in Scientology - it is as if it NEVER existed!

Too much of the content of the event makes questionable what the hell Miscavige is doing there.

I doubt you can walk into ANY org and request to watch a video or DVD of THAT event. Probably they were all collected up and BURNED!

Scientology and Hubbard are both notorious for erasing aspects of their past that they don't want others to know about, and rewriting the past in a way to satisfy some "PR angle" or aim. And strangely, the overly-indoctrinated RonBots take it all in stride. Such DUMMIES!!!!!!

 

[Challenge]

He's not a very good liar which, I can only assume, is why he's no longer around.

In Scientology, only the liars survive. I just realized that Scientology simply boils down to lying. One's status in Scientology is directly proportional to one's ability to lie and be lied to.

I think he is seriously drugged up. Holding on tight so that he doesn't just lose it and start screaming.
Maybe DM is squeezing him into psychotic break mode.

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[anonomog]

I had a really hilarious conversation on the 'phone with some fool that cos had put on their 'phone' lines. It was some time after this announcement, had to be about 1987 or 88. So he was saying that they had this new OT level that totally handled it. I asked him if it was done after NOTs. He said that it was to be done after the thetan dropped his body. I said "O. You mean I'd have to drop my body to get it?"

well... you know... I think I am funny, and I burst into raucous laughter and hung up.
poor guy. he was prolly one of the mildly mentally ill that they got in there to ''man up the phones".

I never heard that they actually sold such a R/D.

How about it? You who 'got in' in the '90s. Was cos promoting an "after bodydeath R/D?

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Lol Challenge if I'd have got that call I'd still be laughing.

 

[guanoloco]

...

The Assumption of Altitude is, at its core, really an act of thievery. An undeserved, un-earned and untrue status is stolen. Why do Scientologists steal? What is so valuable to Scientologists that they feel compelled and justified in stealing it?

Hubbard answers that simply and directly.

"Admiration is the most valuable particle in the universe."​

An admiration particle is apparently quite a bit more valuable than an honesty particle, a respect particle or an integrity particle.

This explains why Ron and Scientologists so industriously steal and bequeath to themselves so many glowing titles, ranks, states and statuses. There is another thread called Stealing Admiration that had some great posts on this subject.

Each status is a corrupt cloaking that hopes to elevate self over others in order to deceptively solicit "admiration".

Why be average when you can be a Patron Meritorious with Honors?

Why be a nothing guy that used to be in the navy when you can be a war hero?

Why settle for being an ordinary man when you can be a Clear?

Why be a guy who bought a boat when you can be a Commodore?

Why settle for human when you can instantly become an Operating Thetan

Why not take an extra helping at the All-You-Can-Eat-Status-Buffet and put some "SAVIOR OF MANKIND" on your plate?

Doesn't this explain the "wins" in large part? The sensation of being somebody great. The sensation that you got a great deal (you got "something for nothing" didn't you?).

Is it any wonder why a person shopping is elated when they find what they are looking for a fraction of what they expected to pay? ("Wow, I just found those $1,200 Armani designer sunglasses on sale for only $39.99! What a steal!")

Yeah, Scientology status. What a "steal"!

Well, we all know that the ratio of little being to BIG BEINGS is about 18:1...

...so this got me to thinking, I don't know if I've ever formally applied for membership to the Church of Hoaxology but just exactly what is my status?

 

[guanoloco]

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I have seen that video; it was easily found at an earlier time.

I could not locate it today on several Google searches. Maybe someone knows where that video is.

There is also an interesting thread on "Is Greg Wilhere evil or is he only a Scientologist" which had some great posts.

Anybody know where that Wilhere "Briefing" video is? Disapeared???

I was, however, successfully able to locate another "Briefing" from a very senior and loyal officer of the Salvation Navy. I found it at the intersection of Altitude Avenue and Stupid Street.

It's "lip-smackin" good! (literally)

SEVERE CRINGE WARNING!!!​

[video=youtube;FJE7ZcWD6vA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJE7ZcWD6vA[/video]​

Right at the beginning of this video he talks about the "first" time Hubbard didn't have to step in and fix Int management, thus allowing Hubbard to drop the bod and all that, then immediately after this Miscavige has to step in and fix Int management and it's bye, bye, Pat!

I sense a Hoax here somewhere...

 

[guanoloco]

He's not a very good liar which, I can only assume, is why he's no longer around.

In Scientology, only the liars survive. I just realized that Scientology simply boils down to lying. One's status in Scientology is directly proportional to one's ability to lie and be lied to.

So distinctly stated! This set me back in my rocker!

Very good analysis, Syn!

WOOT!

The 1st step is to lie to yourself and be really good at that.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Well, we all know that the ratio of little being to BIG BEINGS is about 18:1...

...so this got me to thinking, I don't know if I've ever formally applied for membership to the Church of Hoaxology but just exactly what is my status?

You are already a VIP member of the Church of Hoaxology. The exact nature of your "status" in the COH is determined by you.

Each parishioner decides what OT level they have achieved and the name of that OT level. Well, to be more technically correct the COH has AT levels (Altitude Thetan).

You can change your AT level any time you feel the interest, need or if you notice that someone else has a better AT level than you do.

Personally, I have achieved Altitude Level 75,000,000 which is the highest known level in the history of the universe.

If, for example, you determined that you are AT 75,000,001, then that would make you the coolest person in the universe. But, I would then immediately attest to AT 75,000,002 and you would realize that I am wayyyy better.

We of the Church of Hoaxology offer free CERTIFICATES which you can proudly hang on your wall. Simply go to our website and download the free Certificate Form and fill in whatever you like. Then print it out and put it on your wall to amaze your friends and shatter your enemies.

 

[Jachs]

Where are the rules for a Hoaxologist to obey?

What are Hoaxologists aims & purposes?

What does the certificate permit one to do?

can i re-indoctrinate stressful testers into J&D drinking instead of Koolaid insouciance?

can the certificate be revoked if i have an epiphanical ron adoration moment and relapse?

Questions questions

Please direct me to Faq

 

[Sindy]

The worst single thing about Scientology is "NOTHING"

The worst thing about Scientology to me is, in a word: Apparency

Scientology is the "religion" of apparency as defined only in Scientology's glossary:

apparency: the way someone or something appears to be, where this is different from the way that they actually are.

Scientology is only an apparency. That apparency is solely for PR purposes.

Rules of the Scientology Apparency

1. The end result of anything can simply be created at a moments notice. For example, in Scientology it is unnecessary to go through all the arduous motions of actually producing anything when you can just create it out of thin air (at the very last possible, stress filled moment) like:

- Photoshopping audiences or hiring actors to fill in seats.

- Pushing parishioners to purchase books to catapult LRH's books on to the best seller lists.

- Selling, like some MLM salespeople, huge books and lecture packages that sit in "OT's" basements like unwanted water filters just to "prove" that the world is absolutely clamoring for LRH's works.

- Photo ops with VMs for IAS poster images to enable unscrupulous fear mongers to keep extracting money from people who think they're salvaging planet earth when really they are simply growing a big, fat, "PTS to the Middle Class" couch potato ass and missing out on the rest of real life.

- Demanding that orgs send staff to Flag so that Flag is full of bodies and then taking forever to train them and then not letting them come home when they're done just so Flag is bustling with activity.

- The list is endless because:

NOTHING in Scientology is actually genuine. NOTHING. It's a big illusion (delusion). It's so winding and bending and creepy and hard to wrap your head around because it's supposed to be about TRUTH and it's the exact opposite and you just shake your head

The worst thing about Scientology is that everything it says it is it ISN'T but everything it really IS is actually quite visible BUT no one believes what they see and instead they believe the apparency no matter how strong the evidence to the contrary.

It's a wicked house of mirrors.

Orgs through the eyes of hypnotized Scientologists:

Through the eyes of those who can actually see:

Staff to the true believers:

Staff to the unhypnotized:

Scientology is actually NOTHING. It isn't real at all. It's a LIE. It's an apparency and a very creepy one at that.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Re: The worst single thing about Scientology is "NOTHING"

The worst thing about Scientology to me is, in a word: Apparency

Scientology is the "religion" of apparency as defined only in Scientology's glossary:

apparency: the way someone or something appears to be, where this is different from the way that they actually are.

Scientology is only an apparency. That apparency is solely for PR purposes.

Rules of the Scientology Apparency

1. The end result of anything can simply be created at a moments notice. For example, in Scientology it is unnecessary to go through all the arduous motions of actually producing anything when you can just create it out of thin air (at the very last possible, stress filled moment) like:

- Photoshopping audiences or hiring actors to fill in seats.

- Pushing parishioners to purchase books to catapult LRH's books on to the best seller lists.

- Selling, like some MLM salespeople, huge books and lecture packages that sit in "OT's" basements like unwanted water filters just to "prove" that the world is absolutely clamoring for LRH's works.

- Photo ops with VMs for IAS poster images to enable unscrupulous fear mongers to keep extracting money from people who think they're salvaging planet earth when really they are simply growing a big, fat, "PTS to the Middle Class" couch potato ass and missing out on the rest of real life.

- Demanding that orgs send staff to Flag so that Flag is full of bodies and then taking forever to train them and then not letting them come home when they're done just so Flag is bustling with activity.

- The list is endless because:

NOTHING in Scientology is actually genuine. NOTHING. It's a big illusion (delusion). It's so winding and bending and creepy and hard to wrap your head around because it's supposed to be about TRUTH and it's the exact opposite and you just shake your head

The worst thing about Scientology is that everything it says it is it ISN'T but everything it really IS is actually quite visible BUT no one believes what they see and instead they believe the apparency no matter how strong the evidence to the contrary.

It's a wicked house of mirrors.

Orgs through the eyes of hypnotized Scientologists:

Through the eyes of those who can actually see:

Staff to the true believers:

Staff to the unhypnotized:

Scientology is actually NOTHING. It isn't real at all. It's a LIE. It's an apparency and a very creepy one at that.

Brilliant Post!

When a Scientologist lies they get a Freedom Medal.

When a non-Scientologist tells the truth, it's called "natter".

Question: When Scientology complains that someone is nattering, isn't that....natter?

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Where are the rules for a Hoaxologist to obey?

What are Hoaxologists aims & purposes?

What does the certificate permit one to do?

can i re-indoctrinate stressful testers into J&D drinking instead of Koolaid insouciance?

can the certificate be revoked if i have an epiphanical ron adoration moment and relapse?

Questions questions

Please direct me to Faq

All the answers to your excellent questions are on the Church of Hoaxology website. When you are there, click on the FAQ link at:

http://www.hoaxFAQ.com

Sadly, some beings have reportedly tried to open that link without success. Our whole track research has proven that the link only opens up for beings truly seeking knowledge and freedom who have their exchange in.

If you are unable to open that link, you should immediately go to the special repair link at:

http://www.suggested-doughnation.com

You should keep making donations until your flows unstick. Then the FAQ link will open up for you. It's quite spiritual the way it works.