TheLIpTV: Celebrity Scientology: Life (and Death) After Going Clear ..

Smurf

Gold Meritorious SP
[video=youtube;Hp3mhx9gTMs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp3mhx9gTMs[/video]
 

programmer_guy

True Ex-Scientologist
In this interview, I like how Tony reports whatever info he has and does not appear to have any personal issues of "confirmation bias". :thumbsup:
 

arcxcauseblows

Patron Meritorious
as this story unfolds it sounds so typical to life in scientology, repeating high pressure, weird solutions, going to outsiders when it gets tough and time will tell but my suspicion is the obvious scenerios you see inside the church

pressure to marry someone so she can live in the US
pressure to recruit jim
failed, pressured to disconnect
punished for pulling it in, cheating on husband
naturaly causes depression
on top of that regged for expensive services she's probably paid for several times and told it will fix everything
taught your body/life doesn't matter, now hating life so talking suicide
scientology knows they can't handle real mental issues, it's designed for milking rich people who don't need help not people that really need help, and they refuse to let her get professional treatment
arranges an outsider, den, try to help for liability reasons, got there too late...

want to hear what was in the notes she left, and den's explanation to why he found her, was he there to try to talk her out of it or did they already know she was dead but wanted a non-scientologist there for the legal report?

some of the scientology code of honor i'm sure influenced this situation
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9. Your self-determinism and your honor are more important than your immediate life.
10. Your integrity to yourself is more important than your body.
12. Never fear to hurt another in a just cause.
14. Be your own adviser, keep your own counsel and select your own decisions.
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aka harm critics (or yourself if they're guilt tripping you), don't listen to anyone else, be selfish and self centered, if you don't get your way then don't get professional help just kill yourself, you're immortal who cares, only rich thetans matter

this sounds like a joke but it isn't, is the "survival rundown" going to become the "suicide rundown"? time will tell
 
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as this story unfolds it sounds so typical to life in scientology, repeating high pressure, weird solutions, going to outsiders when it gets tough and time will tell but my suspicion is the obvious scenerios you see inside the church

pressure to marry someone so she can live in the US
pressure to recruit jim
failed, pressured to disconnect
punished for pulling it in, cheating on husband
natuarly causes depression
on top of that regged for expensive services she's probably paid for several times and told it will fix everything
taught your body/life doesn't matter, now hating life so talking suicide
scientology knows they can't handle real mental issues, it's designed for milking rich people who don't need help not people that are losing their mind and really need help, and they refuse to let her get professional treatment
arranges an outsider, den, try to help for liability reasons, got there too late...

want to hear what was in the notes she left, and den's explanation to why he found her, was he there to try to talk her out of it or did they already know she was dead but wanted a non-scientologist there for the legal report?

some of the scientology code of honor i'm sure influenced this situation
---
9. Your self-determinism and your honor are more important than your immediate life.
10. Your integrity to yourself is more important than your body.
12. Never fear to hurt another in a just cause.
14. Be your own adviser, keep your own counsel and select your own decisions.
---
aka harm critics (or yourself if they're guilt tripping you), don't listen to anyone else, be selfish and self centered, if you don't get your way then don't get professional help just kill yourself, you're immortal who cares, only rich thetans matter

this sounds like a joke but it isn't, is the "survival rundown" going to become the "suicide rundown"? time will tell

Wot u said....and wot you said in your questions about why Den was there.
 

arcxcauseblows

Patron Meritorious
yeah and problem is i don't see him talking unless its in court

if they hired him he probably has signed a gag order, if he did it as a favor they'll try to blackmail or pay him to shut up, so if he suddenly gets rich we'll know why...

ironic that scientology hates wogs, and claims to have the only workable technology on earth, but when the shiz hits the fan they have to rely on the wogs to prop themselves up with outside help hiring wog lawyers, wog private investigators, wog pr consultants, wog tech consultants, and this den type specialists
 

Leland

Crusader
By the Cult's own creed....they only want "able" people to join.

"we make the able more able...." is one of the Cult's mottoes....

The Cult doesn't deal in sick or disabled....or injured....or people in "trouble..."

The Cult is an elitist and very prejudice group from the very start....

I believe the Student Hat...makes some statement like..."you found us...so you are one of the smartest people on the planet..." or something like that.....
 

Knows

Gold Meritorious Patron
I am sad for this woman and those that loved her...

I do love how this story is spraying A TON of entheta all over the cult of scientology....

I heard people in line at the grocery store blaming Scientology for her death...

I did contribute to the motion and validated that Scientology does KILL ...:coolwink::wink2::biggrin:

Those are two people that will tell two people that will tell two people ...until it is spread far and wide...

and THAT is how you keep Scientology Shrinking!
 
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