Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes hate each other.

Lulu Belle

Moonbat
http://www.jobsnhire.com/articles/2...mes-intense-hate-completely-shatters-exes.htm

Tom Cruise & Katie Holmes: Intense Hate Completely Shatters The Exes?

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Ex-couple, Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes reportedly hate each other and it isn't over the Church of Scientology. According to reports, the exes, who decided to divorce after five years of marital bliss, are not on speaking terms with each other.

Uh-oh! Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes want nothing to do with each other? Well, that seems to be the case between the ex-lovers who choose not to communicate at all even for their only daughter's sake. TMZ revealed that the ex-couple did not even have "direct co-parenting discussions." When it comes to their 8-year-old daughter, Suri, everything is handled via intermediaries.

Aside from having bad blood on both sides, the Daily Mirror also reported that neither Katie Holmes nor Tom Cruise are interested in repairing their relationship.

There are also claims that 52-year-old Cruise, who has just wrapped up filming the fifth installment of "Mission Impossible," shut Holmes out because she was considered as a "Suppressive Person" or SP by the Church of Scientology. Based on the Church's rules, once a person is declared an SP, people are told not to associate with them.

However, TMZ stated that Katie Holmes was never considered as a "Suppressive Person" by the Church of Scientology. The gossip site also reiterated that Tom Cruise and his ex-wife didn't communicate for the simple reason that they don't get along. As per Cruise, he felt betrayed when his 36-year-old ex-wife didn't warn him about the divorce while for Holmes, she felt Tom "sucked the life out of her."
 

Lulu Belle

Moonbat
http://www.laineygossip.com/Katie-H...Jamie-Foxx-hand-holding-photos-surfaces/37939

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Remember when Katie Holmes was a ninja? How she left Tom Cruise without Tom Cruise knowing? Secret cell phones and lawyers undercover and a new security team, all in place well before she blindsided him: I’m leaving you.

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TMZ followed up again late last night with yet another story about how much the two hate each other, acknowledging that initially they reported that the animosity was over Scientology because Katie was declared a Suppressive Person but now citing “sources within the Church” that Katie was never labelled an SP by the Xenu…

Holy sh-t, back the f-ck up…

“Well-placed sources with the Church tell TMZ…”

Clearly Katie’s team isn’t leaking to TMZ. She might be feeding US Weekly and PEOPLE but she’s not talking to TMZ. If she is feeding US Weekly and PEOPLE, what’s she promoting? There was a film at SXSW but I’m not sure she even showed up. And she’s on Ray Donovan but that’s not out for a while yet. That said, maybe she’s aware that, well, we think she got boring and she could be trying to convince us otherwise.

And then Tom decided he had to be heard too so his side called up TMZ?

The crazy thing is, in the gossip world, more people believe TMZ these days than they do PEOPLE Magazine. What then will be the result of a possible alliance between the outlet that breaks the most stories and the organisation that so many people don’t trust? Does this have anything to do with the fact that Going Clear, the Scientology documentary, premieres on HBO in two weeks?

 

Leland

Crusader
I've noticed Katie Holmes, recently, in a TV ad for a woman's beauty product....Oil of Olay.

She looks good.

Don't know about the TMZ story...or the "church" making any sort of public statement that Katie was not declared and SP....

Sound very fishy to me....especially the timing...
 

Claire Swazey

Spokeshole, fence sitter
She likely left ninja style because she was certain TC wouldn't listen and would throw road blocks in the way. It's never ever easy to divorce or breakup but I'm sure her challenges were both unique and intense.

Point of fact, you don't have to be an SP for the cult to order disconnection or for a Scio to decide on his own to do so. Just being in serious ethics trouble will do it.
 

ChurchOfCylontology

Patron with Honors
Tom Cruise is incapable of genuine love, empathy, and compassion for other individuals. Everything I've read about him (that isn't tabloid fodder) points to Cruise having a wicked case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. I believe there is genuine dislike between Cruise and Holmes but for Cruise, his negative 'feelings' are only because Katie made him look badly in the public sphere. I'm sure he had a narcissistic rage meltdown when she surgically removed herself and Suri from that marriage in 2013, but it is not likely that he 'loved' her (or Suri) as non-NPD individuals experience.

Suri and Katie were only extensions of his own ego, which explains why Katie would feel "drained". I believe that Cruise is a skilled actor that is "in character" (i.e. his public persona as nice guy) when in public, but I would bet that he terrorizes those close to him if they step out of line. Most people with relationships or ties to those with NPD typically suffer greatly.
 

NoName

A Girl Has No Name
1. TRL. I don't believe the cult.

2. She may not technically be declared but she may have another ethics situation that prevents TC from talking to her.

3. TMZ needs to grow a set. No one else is afraid of reporting real dirt on the kult.
 

Lone Star

Crusader
I've had a hunch for a couple of years that TMZ is soft on Scientology. Perhaps even sympathetic toward them.

It's only a hunch, so I have no concrete proof. But this story adds more credence to my hunch.
 

Thrak

Gold Meritorious Patron
She likely left ninja style because she was certain TC wouldn't listen and would throw road blocks in the way. It's never ever easy to divorce or breakup but I'm sure her challenges were both unique and intense.

Point of fact, you don't have to be an SP for the cult to order disconnection or for a Scio to decide on his own to do so. Just being in serious ethics trouble will do it.

I think she went Ninja style because she probably felt what she was doing was tantamount to a prison break. That must have been a freaky world where she was living at.
 

NoName

A Girl Has No Name
I've had a hunch for a couple of years that TMZ is soft on Scientology. Perhaps even sympathetic toward them.

It's only a hunch, so I have no concrete proof. But this story adds more credence to my hunch.

When Suri was 2-3ish they weren't. They referred to Suri as Scientolotot, had pictures of her supposedly drinking barley formula out of a bottle while toddling around in heels, and had a story about her eating gummy penises (yes, they're a thing).

Shortly after the gummy dick story, they stopped reporting and seemed to get really soft on Swinetology. Something happened, and I want to know what. :drama:
 

WildKat

Gold Meritorious Patron
Yeah, this story was likely planted by the church to make it appear they were all innocent of any influence in the breakup.
 

Smurf

Gold Meritorious SP
I've had a hunch for a couple of years that TMZ is soft on Scientology. Perhaps even sympathetic toward them

I am several friends that work for TMZ. They used to be very critical of the cult until their bosses at Time Warner felt the criticism was cutting into their revenue stream so now they report solely on the celebrity factor with occasional mention of Scientology.

I've spoken to Harvey Levin, the openly gay host of the show & he hates the cult, but again, he answers to higher-ups at Warner Bros.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/dec/09/business/la-fi-ct-tmz9-2009dec09

http://www.timewarner.com/blog/category/tmz
 

Lulu Belle

Moonbat
Then there's the Jamie Foxx issue....

Foxx and Cruise worked together. There are reports they were friends.

I would imagine this makes him nuts.


 
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BunnySkull

Silver Meritorious Patron
1. TRL. I don't believe the cult.

2. She may not technically be declared but she may have another ethics situation that prevents TC from talking to her.

3. TMZ needs to grow a set. No one else is afraid of reporting real dirt on the kult.

TMZ has dirty quid pro quos with many in LA, and I have little doubt the cult is one of them. They are in the business of celebrity, and Scientology has been bullying its way into that business for decades. The cult and TMZ have a cozy arrangement. Judging from the coverage I'd guess TMZ has agreed not to report any real dirt on the cult and it's celebrities (but will run fluff pieces) in return for the cult feeding them occasional juicy tidbits. The cult probably gets tons of dirt on non-scio celebrities one of two ways.

1. Via D-list actors, wanna-be actors, models, waitresses, assistants, dancers, production staff, etc.. in LA who get "auditing" and end up spilling random details on real celebrities they may have escorted for, dated, cleaned their house, seen in compromising positions, done something compromising for a bigwig to get a gig, etc... you get the idea.)

2. Due to the countless monitoring, trash picking, PI operations they have going on the cult probably picks up all kinds of extra info. on people in the celebrity world that it may or may not care about, but that TMZ would be interested in.

Just via these two avenues alone the cult could keep the TMZ feed full of gossip for months.

So the cult occasionally provides interesting pieces of gossip and intel to TMZ. In return, TMZ holds off reporting on negative Scientology stories and runs fluff pieces on their celebs. The only time they will even touch a cult story is when it's impossible to ignore and been run on so many other news sites they just can't totally ignore it -- like the issue of Scientology in the Cruise/ Holmes split.

Its hilarious that TMZ is pushing the obvious cult party line that Scientology had nothing to do with their split or animosity - what utter bullshit. Very odd timing to on an old issue - guess the cult is desperate to try and plant some spin stories to try and soften the blow of the upcoming premiere of Going Clear.

Slimy organizations with little ethics or scruples usually either steer clear of each other or cooperate - I think in this case they've decided to cooperate since the in the tiny celebrity world of LA it's impossible to avoid each other. I think the back scratching operation they have going on suits both organizations just fine. (Also, I would be that Harvey Levin and some others at TMZ actually fear the cult due to not having squeaky clean backgrounds - and they don't want to piss of the cult and potentially open a hornet's nest. Or maybe that's already happened and why we have such splendid cooperation.)

FYI: TMZ is famous for working out arrangements in LA. (Arrangements that could have been taken directly from Scientology's playbook.) For instance they had some video of Justin Beiber saying some racist words, or something of the sort, years ago. Beiber's people begged TMZ not to run it. Instead, TMZ got Beiber to agree to do exclusive in-studio interviews and feed them stories - they held it over his head for nearly three years, milking it for all they could. It was finally released by another outlet, the fallout handled, and now Beiber is free TMZ's blackmail.

TMZ is also known for having contacts within the LA county ME's office, LAPD, dispatch, private hospitals in LA, etc.. that sell confidential information to them for cash. I would guess, given the people who inhabit the shady world of selling private info., that the cult and TMZ have many LA contacts in common.
 
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Smurf

Gold Meritorious SP
TMZ is also known for having contacts within the LA county ME's office, LAPD, dispatch, private hospitals in LA, etc.. that sell confidential information to them for cash. I would guess, given the people who inhabit the shady world of selling private info., that the cult and TMZ have many LA contacts in common. [/I]

TMZ and, in fact, the paparazzi in general. monitor law enforcement radio calls & other media on celeb sightings. Many celebs themselves, who publicly express there disgust of the paparazzi, will contact them in private to let them know where they will be, time & day, so they get more exposure. It is also well known that they will have their publicists & agents will do the same. Welcome to the world of Hollyweird.

TMZ, like major networks (though they publicly deny it) & tabloids pays for private information & interviews. They all want & are searching for the next big exclusive. It's very speculative to claim TMZ & the cult have ties. Kirstey Alley hates TMZ and has said so. They are always posting critical & mocking reports of her weight issues, dwindling career & faux pas.
 

Sassy

Patron Meritorious
http://www.jobsnhire.com/articles/2...mes-intense-hate-completely-shatters-exes.htm

Tom Cruise & Katie Holmes: Intense Hate Completely Shatters The Exes?

(excerpt)

Ex-couple, Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes reportedly hate each other and it isn't over the Church of Scientology. According to reports, the exes, who decided to divorce after five years of marital bliss, are not on speaking terms with each other.

Uh-oh! Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes want nothing to do with each other? Well, that seems to be the case between the ex-lovers who choose not to communicate at all even for their only daughter's sake. TMZ revealed that the ex-couple did not even have "direct co-parenting discussions." When it comes to their 8-year-old daughter, Suri, everything is handled via intermediaries.

Aside from having bad blood on both sides, the Daily Mirror also reported that neither Katie Holmes nor Tom Cruise are interested in repairing their relationship.

There are also claims that 52-year-old Cruise, who has just wrapped up filming the fifth installment of "Mission Impossible," shut Holmes out because she was considered as a "Suppressive Person" or SP by the Church of Scientology. Based on the Church's rules, once a person is declared an SP, people are told not to associate with them.

However, TMZ stated that Katie Holmes was never considered as a "Suppressive Person" by the Church of Scientology. The gossip site also reiterated that Tom Cruise and his ex-wife didn't communicate for the simple reason that they don't get along. As per Cruise, he felt betrayed when his 36-year-old ex-wife didn't warn him about the divorce while for Holmes, she felt Tom "sucked the life out of her."

Who knows what is true or not, but I'm loving the good old dose of medicine Cruise got. Katie did to him exactly what he did to Nicole. Tough shit, pal. It seems the only innocents are all three of his children. The older two don't see their Mom and the younger doesn't see her Dad. Once again, what a shock, the cult strikes again at ripping a family apart. Why is Cruise's family different from the hundreds (thousands?!) of families we all read about and some here have lived. Disconnection much??? Uh, Tom? You're not fooling anyone anymore. :angry::angry:
 

Sassy

Patron Meritorious
Yeah, this story was likely planted by the church to make it appear they were all innocent of any influence in the breakup.

A breakup that was three years ago. They are so pathetic; this is old news and talk about beating a dead horse. I would bet most people feel something went completely haywire in that marriage for Katie to remove herself and her daughter the way she did. Today's celebs are all "we remain the best of friends and our main priority is our child/ren and we ask for privacy"....blah blah when announcing a divorce. Cruise was out of the country & found out while on set. That shit happened that way for a damn good reason!
 

Sassy

Patron Meritorious
I am several friends that work for TMZ. They used to be very critical of the cult until their bosses at Time Warner felt the criticism was cutting into their revenue stream so now they report solely on the celebrity factor with occasional mention of Scientology.

I've spoken to Harvey Levin, the openly gay host of the show & he hates the cult, but again, he answers to higher-ups at Warner Bros.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/dec/09/business/la-fi-ct-tmz9-2009dec09

http://www.timewarner.com/blog/category/tmz


Do you know if he's aware of the cult's stand on homosexuality? :confused2:
 

Sassy

Patron Meritorious
Then there's the Jamie Foxx issue....

Foxx and Cruise worked together. There are reports they were friends.

I would imagine this makes him nuts.




I love Jamie's body language here---he's totally open and into Katie. Good for her, I say. :thumbsup::clap::yes:
 
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