No, I an not saying or implying that we should close up shop or give up hope. Price of Freedom applies. What I meant to say is that from my viewpoint, those that are left "in" are the ones with the biggest blinders, the biggest overts, the biggest ser facs, and they lock the doors from within. A number of them are also bound to toe the line because they have children in, or other family members, and the "Church" uses the fear of disconnection to enforce silence. That is going to be a tough nut to crack. But with the siege machinery very much in place, I think the focus, for me, becomes delivery to those that desire it. If that starts happening, and those "still in" become aware of the fact that they can get what they want without all the added inapplicable BS...then I think those that are capable of introspection will see that there is really no reason to continue to maintain the defensive posture. "There are many rooms in my Fathers mansion", some guy once said.
And you know I have the deepest respect for you as well.
I took your response to mean that those with any intel worth having are out, and see that's what you meant.
When I read your response earlier today, I thought that I tend to agree but not 100%. Heber is still alive, and I'm sure he knows a few things. Maybe not as much as Marty and Mike, but I think he knows enough to be of some worth. Shelley, IF she is still alive, is probably worth more intel. It's certainly not a bunch of high-value targets still in Int, but at least two of them. Laurisse Stuckenbruck makes three - and ya gotta admit that DM's "communicator" has got to have some serious dirt. I don't know if she's got enough human feelings left to want to make anything up to Uwe, but I would probably try to push that button if I ever got the chance.
But OK, assuming that the FBI didn't feel that there was anything left at Int that they didn't already have with the present lot of defectors, what's left.... A bunch of illiterate 2nd generation clams raised up on the Study Dreck? OK, I agree that they have blinders on, and probably have nothing to contribute here. But we've heard about 8 year olds being kept out of school and working 100 hour weeks. I don't buy the story that the statute of limitations passed on "all" of that because I saw the Anon raids a few months ago that took pictures of small children getting off the Flag buses in Sea Org Alley. I absolutely DO NOT believe for a moment that they were going to school. And that little African kid that was on the leaks forum here a few months back - holding a teddy bear in one hand and a billion-year contract in the other. What about those Polish guys that Arnie and Roan talked to when they did their, uhm, walk-through of that Ideal Org in So Cal (for the sound stage - that was damn funny)? I'm willing to bet that those guys thought that they were gonna get some free auditing in exchange for light handyman work, but had their passports taken when they got to Int. We could recite that story by heart around here.
So..... I actually think that the batch that's left at Int NOW might be better than the high-profile defectors. M&M have blood on their hands (literally), as do other high-profile defectors. And really, with the Hole and RPF stories, the FBI would have to worry about the "his-word-against-DM" kinda thing. But if they raided and found a bunch of malnourished overworked 8 year olds who have never had formal schooling???? Jus' sayin.
She says, descending from the soapbox.