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Tony Ortega book drops in May

Discussion in 'Movies, Plays, and Documentaries about Scientology' started by ILove2Lurk, Jan 10, 2015.

  1. ILove2Lurk

    ILove2Lurk Lisbeth Salander

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  2. ILove2Lurk

    ILove2Lurk Lisbeth Salander

  3. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    I am very impressed! Tony could have written on any number of topics related to Scientology for his first tome on the subject but he picked a subject most dear to my heart, Paulette Cooper and what they put her through for daring to investigate and write a book at a time when the facts about it were highly closeted. :thumbsup:

    Her story, before during and afterwards is a remarkable one which I won't miss reading.
  4. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    Lets get this book made known!
  5. ILove2Lurk

    ILove2Lurk Lisbeth Salander

  6. eldritch cuckoo

    eldritch cuckoo brainslugged reptilian

    If there will be a German translation ... I'll make it a gift to several relatives. :yes:
  7. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    In that short blurb "the Church" is used eight times.

    It's great that Paulette Cooper finally has a book - and hopefully a movie! - dedicated solely to her, but is it really necessary to so frequently reaffirm the fraudulent "religious" identity of corporate Scientology?

    Simply calling it "the Church," and with such matter of fact frequency, will make some people back away from the topic, as they are disinclined to enter into a conflict between someone and a "Church."

    (Believe it or not, most people are not organized-religion-despising-atheists, thus the utility of the "religion angle.")

    :) In any event, it should be interesting to see what new information is brought to light, and it's wonderful to see Paulette Cooper getting the recognition she deserves.

    This has the potential to be an extremely poignant and powerful book.
  8. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    Scientology should be called "Orgs" or "Bases" not Church....IMO

    That IS what they call themselves.

    Edited: Just my pet ax to grind....sorry for the derail and off topic comment.
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  9. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    Lets try not to inadvertently derail this important book and thread to go off into Tony's use of the term "church" for Scientology.

    Tony is of the belief that Scientology is a recognized church, so he calls it for what it is. He also has posted that he never uses the word cult in his descriptions of Scientology. On his reasons why, I forget but somewhere in the past he has written about this. I suspect it is because he is coming from a journalistic viewpoint, which is supposed to be objective.

    I am too lazy to go off and find a reference for you all, so take it or leave it. My point is that this is a separate topic which I hope will be taken to a new thread if discussion is wanted.

  10. ILove2Lurk

    ILove2Lurk Lisbeth Salander

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  11. Dave B.

    Dave B. Maximus Ultimus Mostimus

    "...and shines a light into the darkest corner of the history of the Church of Scientology."

    I'm sure there are plenty more far darker corners that the Kult would not want to see the light of day.
  12. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    I think the juxtaposition is useful. It might make people ask themselves: this is a Church? They all know that scientology is crazy, but this brings out their "whole other level" of doing business. This will have a huge impact.
  13. TonyOrtega

    TonyOrtega Patron

    I didn't write the announcement, Veda. The first part is from Humfrey Hunter of Silvertail Books, the second from Jon Atack.

    However, if you look carefully, you will see that there are no gratuitous uses of the word.

    The organization that tried to destroy Paulette was the B-I branch of the Guardian's Office, which was a unit of the Church of Scientology.

    As a journalist, those are the words that I have to use in order to be factual. But if that will keep you from buying the book, so be it.

    Tony O.
  14. ILove2Lurk

    ILove2Lurk Lisbeth Salander

  15. TonyOrtega

    TonyOrtega Patron

    Yeah, it's unfortunate that you posted that blurb an agent wrote for a publisher trade catalog, which I didn't write and didn't even see until recently, months after it was written.

    The actual public announcement of the book is at my website...
  16. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    Tony, the timing of this, weeks after the release of the HBO Documentary is perfect .

    Many millions of people will be viewing the documentary, and a portion of them will of course be interested in the book as well.

    If you ever do an updated list of the 'Top 25 People Crippling Scientology' you're going to have to move yourself way up there! :thumbsup:

  17. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    It's good to see you here, Tony. And thank you for writing the book.
  18. woglesbo

    woglesbo Patron

    I have to say I am very surprised by some of the comments about the book.

    Even being a never in I am excited.....every nail in the coffin brings them 1 day closer to locking the doors.

    Tony Ortega is the first place I found when looking and lurking. Daily he puts hard work into bringing truth and facts about the cult. And its not cause he is getting rich on it.

    CONGRATS Sir! and thank you!

    Just my 2 cents
  19. sallydannce

    sallydannce Gold Meritorious Patron


    I for one am definitely excited about this book release - in that sad/excited mixed emotion way one has when exploring the dark cruel details that the bullying cult of scientology inflicts into peoples lives.

    Respect and love to Paulette! And you too Tony, and team. Thank you! :flowers:
  20. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    It won't stop me, but the repetitive use of the words, "the Church," rather than just "Scientology" will likely dissuade some from inquiring.

    Of course, it's impossible to avoid entirely using the words "Church of Scientology," as that's the name used in lawsuits, incorporation papers, in the phone book, and on signs on many Scientology buildings. It identifies the subject. However, the repetitive use of the words "the Church," IMO, is counterproductive.

    The word "Scientology" says it better, the only drawback being that it's five syllables whereas "the Church" is two.

    Very much look forward to reading the book, and thanks for writing it.