Too Much Cruelty

[exsomessenger]

Yes.

I've never lived in a real totalitarian country.

I only lived in a cult where the people were following ideals that did not actually exist in practice, and you could get them to see the distinction without getting killed. You could lose your job, your family, and all your friends - and the whole life you built as a Scientologist - but you could not be put to death (yet) by Scientology for refusing to "play".

My Too Much Cruelty points exist within this context - the context of the Internet, of ESMB, and of the way things are changing in the fight against Scientology right now.

Maybe I am saying that being kind is expedient for me now, where before I thought it wasn't.

Or maybe I think that I can reach my "personal best" faster and easier by being kind now, where before I believed I couldn't.

Or maybe I'm growing up and getting sick of the suffering I cause to myself and to others by being cruel.

Or maybe I'm trying to change the behavior of others so they won't be cruel to me personally any more because I don't like it when they are.

Or maybe I personally like it when people are kind to me rather than cruel, and I figure that if I can more kind than cruel, I will get more people treating me kinder.

Maybe I'm trying to be one less cruel person on a message board with too much cruelty so that the effectiveness of ESMB can be even better.

Maybe it's some of all these things.

Anyway.

I'm going to try to change.

I'm going to try to be less cruel and more kind.

Alanzo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0l3QWUXVho

 

[Panda Termint]

ESMB is mostly helpful and seldom cruel. It probably depends on how you perceive others.

(Surgeon General's Warning: Sensitive people might find this message to be cruel.)

 

[Lone Star]

ESMB is mostly helpful and seldom cruel. It probably depends on how you perceive others.

(Surgeon General's Warning: Sensitive people might find this message to be cruel.)

Up yours!! You insensitive wanker!!

 

[Panda Termint]

*for when lol just doesn't cut it*

 

[Free to shine]

ESMB is mostly helpful and seldom cruel. It probably depends on how you perceive others.

(Surgeon General's Warning: Sensitive people might find this message to be cruel.)

On the subject of sensitivity you can certainly run up against the concepts that it is weak, not desirable and so on and that is cruel and cult like. It is the sensitive who are often more aware, who understand nuances, and take on issues that many don't even see. Then they can be labelled "drama queens" or "nuts" etc in a cult like dismissive way. Here's to more sensitivity and kindness in the world.

 

[uniquemand]

On the subject of sensitivity you can certainly run up against the concepts that it is weak, not desirable and so on and that is cruel and cult like. It is the sensitive who are often more aware, who understand nuances, and take on issues that many don't even see. Then they can be labelled "drama queens" or "nuts" etc in a cult like dismissive way. Here's to more sensitivity and kindness in the world.

Reduce people to "hats", function determines form.

 

[Panda Termint]

On the subject of sensitivity you can certainly run up against the concepts that it is weak, not desirable and so on and that is cruel and cult like. It is the sensitive who are often more aware, who understand nuances, and take on issues that many don't even see. Then they can be labelled "drama queens" or "nuts" etc in a cult like dismissive way. Here's to more sensitivity and kindness in the world.

Oh, I'm a sensitive new age man, believe me. Overly-sensitive people is probably a better description of what the Surgeon General was referring to but I can't speak for the Surgeon General.

Still, if you found what I actually said to be cruel, you may be being over-sensitive.

I'm being pragmatic ie. "dealing with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations." In this instance I'm dealing with Alanzo's assertion that ESMB is cruel/has too much cruelty.

...

Maybe I'm trying to be one less cruel person on a message board with too much cruelty so that the effectiveness of ESMB can be even better.
...
Alanzo

To which I say

ESMB is mostly helpful and seldom cruel. It probably depends on how you perceive others.

(Surgeon General's Warning: Sensitive people might find this message to be cruel.)

 

[Lone Star]

Well goody goody......are we all gonna hold hands and sing Kumba-fuckin-ya now?


Now lets get back to business....

 

[Free to shine]

Oh, I'm a sensitive new age man, believe me. Overly-sensitive people is probably a better description of what the Surgeon General was referring to but I can't speak for the Surgeon General.

Still, if you found what I actually said to be cruel, you may be being over-sensitive.

I'm being pragmatic ie. "dealing with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations." In this instance I'm dealing with Alanzo's assertion that ESMB is cruel/has too much cruelty.



To which I say

No I did not find your particular comment cruel, just an attempt at a joke .... I was talking about sensitivity in general and how it can be treated here.

 

[Purple Rain]

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[Panda Termint]

No I did not find your particular comment cruel, just an attempt at a joke .... I was talking about sensitivity in general and how it can be treated here.

Lol, I was being overly-sensitive, then.

 

[Emma]

Alanzo, the last time there was an attempt to try to get people to be more civil to each other, you responded by saying:

It feels like an OSA Program to me.

If anyone is interested in going over ancient history & seeing where this ESMB unhealable "wound' was first inflicted I suggest you read the thread in its entirety.

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...landing-it-used-to-be-for-people-getting-out/

To have you Alanzo, now suggest that there is too much cruelty on ESMB is just, sooooo, God I dunno, I can't even find the right word. Irony is an massive understatement.

 

[AnonKat]

damn try translate this

[video=youtube;3q9qG0fXfU4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q9qG0fXfU4[/video]

One of the things I've learned lately is that using "antidotes" is a good thing for your mental health.

For instance, of there is too much warlike behavior in your life, then this causes stress, anxiety, aggression, defensiveness and isolation.

The antidote to war is peace.

So to apply this antidote to war in your life, you intentionally create peace for yourself whenever and wherever you can. You make it an intentional habit to create peace for yourself. This includes showing yourself forgiveness and understanding, and intentionally creating peaceful settings for you to enjoy.

If you apply this antidote often enough, the warlike conditions recede and so does the stress, anxiety, aggression, defensiveness and isolation.

You don't have to address the war-like conditions at all.

You just create peace as an antidote instead, and the warlike conditions recede into the background.

Cruelty is also something that causes stress, anxiety, aggression, defensiveness and isolation - especially for a person coming out of a cult.

The antidote to cruelty is kindness.

Alanzo

 

[Emma]

Alanzo, the last time there was an attempt to try to get people to be more civil to each other, you responded by saying:



If anyone is interested in going over ancient history & seeing where this ESMB unhealable "wound' was first inflicted I suggest you read the thread in its entirety.

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...landing-it-used-to-be-for-people-getting-out/

To have you Alanzo, now suggest that there is too much cruelty on ESMB is just, sooooo, God I dunno, I can't even find the right word. Irony is an massive understatement.

I know it's bad form to quote yourself but I just wanted to add something.

1. Yes I'm still pissed about what happened and I'll try to not let that affect my judgement.

2. I think on the whole ESMB is actually a much nicer place than it was 2 years ago when this "thing" happened. Insults are not as common as they once were. I think Alanzo might have a skewed view because he did cop a bit of attitude when he came back. He probably needs to look at why that was rather than thinking the whole messageboard needs to be "adjusted".

 

[afaceinthecrowd]

I know it's bad form to quote yourself but I just wanted to add something.

1. Yes I'm still pissed about what happened and I'll try to not let that affect my judgement.

2. I think on the whole ESMB is actually a much nicer place than it was 2 years ago when this "thing" happened. Insults are not as common as they once were. I think Alanzo might have a skewed view because he did cop a bit of attitude when he came back. He probably needs to look at why that was rather than thinking the whole messageboard needs to be "adjusted".

I agree, completely.

 

[Free Being Me]

I agree, completely.

 

[LA SCN]

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who appreciates tat-less tits.

However titless tats would be a real letdown

 

[Anonycat]

However titless tats would be a real letdown

 

[LA SCN]

*for when lol just doesn't cut it*

On the subject of sensitivity you can certainly run up against the concepts that it is weak, not desirable and so on and that is cruel and cult like. It is the sensitive who are often more aware, who understand nuances, and take on issues that many don't even see. Then they can be labelled "drama queens" or "nuts" etc in a cult like dismissive way. Here's to more sensitivity and kindness in the world.

Oh, I'm a sensitive new age man, believe me. Overly-sensitive people is probably a better description of what the Surgeon General was referring to but I can't speak for the Surgeon General.
Still, if you found what I actually said to be cruel, you may be being over-sensitive.
I'm being pragmatic ie. "dealing with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations." In this instance I'm dealing with Alanzo's assertion that ESMB is cruel/has too much cruelty.
To which I say

Well goody goody......are we all gonna hold hands and sing Kumba-fuckin-ya now?
Now lets get back to business....

No I did not find your particular comment cruel, just an attempt at a joke .... I was talking about sensitivity in general and how it can be treated here.

 

[freethinker]

Why is she covering up their belly buttons?

Yes. It is.