Operating DB
Truman Show Dropout
Please stop! I can't breath because I'm laughing so hard!
More psychotic than a phone.
Like an obscene dog with a bone.
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["Like A Rolling Stone" parody lyrics]
LOLOL....hilarious! (that "more psychotic than a phone" deserves an entire thread to try to even attempt explaining how crazy Hubbard's "policies" were, lol)
And, hey! There's one part of Dylan's song that hardly needs any changes at all to perfectly describe the journey out of Scientology!
Ain't it hard when you discover that
He really wasn't where it's at
After he took from you everything he could steal.
How does it feel?
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no [STRIKE]direction[/STRIKE] routing form home
[STRIKE] Like a complete unknown[/STRIKE] Now that you've up and blown
Like [STRIKE]a rolling[/STRIKE] an operating stone
Uh oh .. He knows better than Hubbard ...
RPF in 5.. 4.. 3..

Yes, but he addressed (and quite frankly, I could see him struggle with) something I wasn't aware Reges thought and hadn't thought of myself in that context. Say a Reg has someone who they assess is in apathy (what is that, 03?), or grief (0.5?) or even covertly hostile (1.1, who could forget that?). The Reg pisses the person off, makes them really angry, and brings them "up" to 1.5 -- anger. BIG WIN! The Reg fully expects to bring up from 1.5, anger, the next time and make the sale --- rather than never see the person again.I've just watched a few minutes of this.
Help me out here. Is this guy taking 24 minutes to say that pissing people off decreases sales?
Cause I think he could have done that in 60 seconds.
Yes, but he addressed (and quite frankly, I could see him struggle with) something I wasn't aware Reges thought and hadn't thought of myself in that context. Say a Reg has someone who they assess is in apathy (what is that, 03?), or grief (0.5?) or even covertly hostile (1.1, who could forget that?). The Reg pisses the person off, makes them really angry, and brings them "up" to 1.5 -- anger. BIG WIN! The Reg fully expects to bring up from 1.5, anger, the next time and make the sale --- rather than never see the person again.
The guy in the video doesn't articulate it with that precision, but that is what he is addressing -- and struggling with. At point in the video he even admits that sometimes (i.e., in the scenario I describe) maybe pissing the customer off really isn't a bad thing....
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The problem is that Scientologists will DO anything and SAY anything to "get their product".
Then, if it all goes bad (which it usually does) they will DO anything or Say anything to "get their product" of tricking the public by calling the screwup a huge win. The best example is Hubbard suddenly going 'total effect' and unexpectedly dying. They created whopper BIG LIES to try to make it look like it was a miraculous OT event where Ron made it go right to exteriorize, get DevT off his lines (his body) and advance into outer space where he could do unthinkably OT research to help mankind. Nice win, eh?
In the case of this Indie video, it would go down something like this. . .1. Reg face rips PC. PC gets upset and storms off.
2. Later, when questioned by the Org's ED, the reg confirms that he really applied Ron's policy of "HARD SELL" which always works, per standard tech. The reg says: "Yeah that guy was really in apathy and I just face ripped him to get him up to anger and action."
3. Just then a phone call comes in and it's the police reporting that the PC was found dead with a suicide note.
4. The ED stares down the reg and demands an answer. The reg calmly replies, "Like I said, I got that guy to come upscale. He did come up scale, out of apathy. That's why they found a suicide note, he came uptone and went into ACTION, killing himself."
SCIENTOLOGY RULE #1: Everything that happens in Scientology is a WIN! If it wasn't a WIN then it didn't happen and someone needs to be routed to ethics for spreading an entheta false report.

Scientologists will DO anything and SAY anything to "get their product". They justify their overt by saying it is "in the best interest of all 8 dynamics - meanwhile they are destroying their first and second!
WHAT IS SCIENTOLOGY?
Everything good that happens in Scientology is a WIN and is because of Scientology!
Anything good that happened to you BEFORE Scientology is because of Scientology.
Anything bad that happened to you BEFORE Scientology is your fault - you are DB, PTS Pre-clear.
If it wasn't a WIN then it didn't happen and someone needs to be routed to ethics for spreading an entheta false reports
Anything Scientology did to you that was bad is your fault, you pulled it in, you are out ethics.
Anything considered bad by Scientology that you do to Scientology is irreparable, horrific. Cruel and inhumane punishment will be applied.
Such things like: Looking Scientology up on the internet to see what people are saying about Scientology, not going broke for Scientology, not marrying some illegial alien to Keep Slavery Working in Scientology etc...Outside of Scientology it is considered normal behavior to look something up on the internet BEFORE you invest $1,000,000 and a lifetime of mind fuck.
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SCIENTOLOGY RULE #1: Everything that happens in Scientology is a WIN! If it wasn't a WIN then it didn't happen and someone needs to be routed to ethics for spreading entheta false reports.
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ANNOUNCING!
The newest contributing member of the STUPID THREAD, Scientology's Int'l Spokesman Franklin "Frank" Fact.
Frank will join the "ASK AN AUTHORITY" feature, where anyone can ask about anything regarding Scientology that they never fully understood, F/Ned and had a major win on.
We are extremely pleased to add Frank to our august panel of experts:
ASK BILLY! (William "Billy" Blowdown)
ASK NED! (Ned the Nerdy NOTS OT)
ASK COMMANDER! (Commander-Ex)
ASK DON! (Don Hubbard, estranged twin brother of Ron Hubbard)
BONUS FREE FEATURE! Anyone whose question gets published on the Stupid Thread will automatically receive a COMMENDATION sent to their ethics file. This ensures like totally awesome ethics protection if you commit any crimes in the future or some junk or whatever.
El Con Hubbard said:UNIVERSE, 1. a universe is defined as a “whole system of created things.” There could be and are, many universes, and there could be many kinds of universes. (Scn 8-8008, p. 27)
El Con Hubbard said:TH E JOURNAL OF
SCIENTOLOGY
Issue 16-G [1953, ca. mid-June]
This is Scientology
The Science of Certainty
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In order to obtain knowledge and certainty, it is necessary to be able to observe, in fact, three universes in which there could be trees. The first of these is one’s own universe; one should be able to create for his own observation in its total form for total perception a tree. The second universe would be the material universe, which is the universe of matter, energy, space and time, which is the common meeting ground of all of us. The third universe is actually a class of universes, which could be called “the other fellow’s universe,” for he and all the class of “other fellows” have universes of their own.
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Franklin "Frank" Fact
COS INT'L SPOKESMAN
OT 8, Class 8, Power on 8 Dynamics
Thank you for such insightful questions. First let me say that Ron sends his best greetings to you and everyone that is in good standing with the COS!
Ron wants you to have the exact time, place, form and event so that you can blow any mystery charge you might have on Target 2 and what is doing these days.
Ron is doing incredibly well, having huge wins on advanced OT research. Ron responded to your specific questions about Target 2 and his activities by stating specifically that: "These things are beyond your wildest dreams and so amazingly miraculous that MEST words cannot even hope to describe it!"
Wow!
ML,
Frank Fact
COS Int'l Spokesman
I am asking Frank the New International Spokesman to broadly publicize the benevolence, sacrifice and humanity of the Scientology Volunteer Ministers (who have just arrived in Baton Rouge for photo ops for Int events and magazine promo scams.)
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