Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology - PART ONE

[Udarnik]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

Even if the student says they are doing great on their studies. Even if the student says that they are feeling tired because they ran a 26 mile marathon the day before.

Speaking as the husband of a marathoner, it's 26 point freaking 2. Because 26.3 would just be Goddamn crazy.

 

[Winston Smith]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

Speaking as the husband of a marathoner, it's 26 point freaking 2. Because 26.3 would just be Goddamn crazy.

As I understand it, the first modern marathon was extended from 26 miles to 26.2 miles so the finish would be in front of the Queen's viewing stand.

And we all know the first Marathoner, a Geek who ran from there to Athens to report the victory, died after delivering the news. Did I say Geek? I meant Greek.

 

[Udarnik]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

As I understand it, the first modern marathon was extended from 26 miles to 26.2 miles so the finish would be in front of the Queen's viewing stand.

And we all know the first Marathoner, a Geek who ran from there to Athens to report the victory, died after delivering the news. Did I say Geek? I meant Greek.

It was extended from 24 miles to 26.2 in 1908 so Edward VII's lazy-assed wife didn't have to move. There is a tradition of saying "God Save the Queen" in Commonwealth countries at mile 24, but my wife just mutters "Fuck the Monarchy" like a good American.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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...

The

Diabolically Defrauded Dumbness

of being a Scientologist

​

The purpose of Scientology is to become spiritually free of "MEST games". And become an OT. Spiritual freedom is your measure of success.

Your progress is measured by stats. You are considered upstat if you pay a fortune for your Bridge and donate vast additional sums. Thus, the only way to go OT is to deeply embed yourself in playing "MEST games" and earn enormous sums of money to give to the COS. The COS also measures its own progress by stats.

But the COS's stats are not the same as your stats.

Your stat is spiritual freedom. The COS's stat is money.

If you actually attained spiritual freedom, your stats would be up and the COS's stats would be down, since you would not need to give them more money.

Thus, a Scientologist is in absolute conflict with their own church because they do not want Scientologists to be free of "MEST games".

They want members forever stuck in MEST, earning money to give them.

This is a problem that never gets solved because the COS does not want to solve it. And, even if they did want to solve it--they have absolutely no idea how.

A game where everyone wins? LOL.

 

[Gib]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

...

The

Diabolically Defrauded Dumbness

of being a Scientologist

​

The purpose of Scientology is to become spiritually free of "MEST games".
And become an OT. Spiritual freedom is your measure of success.

Your progress is measured by stats. You are considered upstat if you pay a fortune for your Bridge and donate vast additional sums. Thus, the only way to go OT is to deeply embed yourself in playing "MEST games" and earn enormous sums of money to give to the COS. The COS also measures its own progress by stats.

But the COS's stats are not the same as your stats. Your stat is spiritual freedom. The COS's stat is money.

If you actually attained spiritual freedom, your stats would be up and the COS's stats would be down, since you would not need to give them more money.

Thus, a Scientologist is in absolute conflict with their own church because they do not want Scientologists to be free of "MEST games". They want members forever stuck in MEST, earning money to give them.

This is a problem that never gets solved because the COS does not want to solve it. And, even if they did want to solve it--they have absolutely no idea how.

another axiom

life poses problems for it's own solution

should be

scientology poses problems for people (going up the bridge) for scientology's solution

which is going up the bridge (money)



Afterall, there is nothing more valuable that auditing & training (blue diamonds)

for which all people's of earth are indebted to LRH.

 

[freethinker]

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There is an additional caveat here in that even if you donate vast sums to the church, your maintaining that status is contingent upon maintaining your future credit because no matter how much you donate, if you can't donate again, tommorow, a large amount that is needed then you status is reduced to out-ethics-downstat-freeloader and will only be upgraded to Kha Khan when ten new credit cards arrive from diligently applying[STRIKE] for and receiving them with policy approved credit lines[/STRIKE] the tech of ethics.

...

The

Diabolically Defrauded Dumbness

of being a Scientologist

​

Your progress is measured by stats. You are considered upstat if you pay a fortune for your Bridge and donate vast additional sums. Thus, the only way to go OT is to deeply embed yourself in playing "MEST games" and earn enormous sums of money to give to the COS. The COS also measures its own progress by stats.

But the COS's stats are not the same as your stats.

Your stat is spiritual freedom. The COS's stat is money.

 

[DoneDeal]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

There is an additional caveat here in that even if you donate vast sums to the church, your maintaining that status is contingent upon maintaining your future credit because no matter how much you donate, if you can't donate again, tommorow, a large amount that is needed then you status is reduced to out-ethics-downstat-freeloader and will only be upgraded to Kha Khan when ten new credit cards arrive from diligently applying[STRIKE] for and receiving them with policy approved credit lines[/STRIKE] the tech of ethics.

That's correct. And that's why the name plaques at my local org, regarding Ideal org donations, gold looking even, are removable.

As it's said in baseball "what have you done for me lately?"

At least ball players get paid while in.

How does this apply to "Stupid moments"?

Donators listening to the reason for their name being a removable one. Unlike baseball, scn'ist's stats don't count for anything. Ain't much cheering in the end.

 

[DoneDeal]

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It's quite remarkable how few attended the sp bldg opening. And it's remarkable how long it took to open it.

My take on it is "they", whomever they are, have no idea how to deliver that nonsense up on the floor with the weird machines. Meaning deliver it in such a way that people believed it was helping them and thus get a SS.


Up above HH linked/talked about an article on Mr. Ortega's site, the one about Hawkins.

Mary Sue, per that article, and I believe, stated she'd rather not go exterior than continue the processes she was doing.

I believe that is the end phenomenon of those machines...."Get me off this thing" "I'll claim it helped me".

I don't like thinking these things really, but is that the reason for the rpf? To get people willing to "deliver" whatever type of "service" those machines do?

Man, it's such craziness.

I alway's wonder what became of Mary Sue. The last good buddy I had in scn, I asked him about her. He didn't know either.

If scn worked...................pfft.

 

[Idle Morgue]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

It's quite remarkable how few attended the sp bldg opening. And it's remarkable how long it took to open it.

My take on it is "they", whomever they are, have no idea how to deliver that nonsense up on the floor with the weird machines. Meaning deliver it in such a way that people believed it was helping them and thus get a SS.


Up above HH linked/talked about an article on Mr. Ortega's site, the one about Hawkins.

Mary Sue, per that article, and I believe, stated she'd rather not go exterior than continue the processes she was doing.

I believe that is the end phenomenon of those machines...."Get me off this thing" "I'll claim it helped me".

I don't like thinking these things really, but is that the reason for the rpf? To get people willing to "deliver" whatever type of "service" those machines do?

Man, it's such craziness.

I alway's wonder what became of Mary Sue. The last good buddy I had in scn, I asked him about her. He didn't know either.

If scn worked...................pfft.

Here is how the scam works at Flag for any rundown...

First of all, convince the PC to put HUGE chunks of money on account - to enforce his arrival.

Now - make him sign legal dox making sure Flag keeps all money on account..in fact, Scientology keeps all money everywhere unless he agrees to stay in Scientology - where fleecing is the number one activity Scientology conducts!

Then send him to Ethics - where the MAA will regg for more donations so he is free to go in session. He did not know the MAA also wears the hat of a registrar...

Make him wait a long time before and after the MAA Cycle. He has a job and family and has to get back home. This will make him amenable to fleecing.

This also ensures that whatever you run on him - he will be happy to get the hell out of there to get home...he will write a success story just to go home and be happy it is all over with. You can make up a rundown...and he will attest to completing it just so he can finish it and get home!

Of course, before you let him leave - churn him through the endless end of regging for donations...where he will be fleeced until he has nothing left.

If he never comes back - who gives a flying fuck...we got the money and we ain't given it back...he signed "contracts" we disguised as "Application for Enrollment" forms and because we are a "church" - he signed it w/o reading it or consulting his attorney.

We are Flag - We are relentless!! The friendliest place on the planet? Why is it that EVERYONE that goes to FLAG can't wait to get the hell out of!

I have heard from so many clams that they will never go back to the Fraud Scam Base!

 

[Bea Kiddo]

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Here is how the scam works at Flag for any rundown...

First of all, convince the PC to put HUGE chunks of money on account - to enforce his arrival.

Now - make him sign legal dox making sure Flag keeps all money on account..in fact, Scientology keeps all money everywhere unless he agrees to stay in Scientology - where fleecing is the number one activity Scientology conducts!

Then send him to Ethics - where the MAA will regg for more donations so he is free to go in session. He did not know the MAA also wears the hat of a registrar...

Make him wait a long time before and after the MAA Cycle. He has a job and family and has to get back home. This will make him amenable to fleecing.

This also ensures that whatever you run on him - he will be happy to get the hell out of there to get home...he will write a success story just to go home and be happy it is all over with. You can make up a rundown...and he will attest to completing it just so he can finish it and get home!

Of course, before you let him leave - churn him through the endless end of regging for donations...where he will be fleeced until he has nothing left.

If he never comes back - who gives a flying fuck...we got the money and we ain't given it back...he signed "contracts" we disguised as "Application for Enrollment" forms and because we are a "church" - he signed it w/o reading it or consulting his attorney.

We are Flag - We are relentless!! The friendliest place on the planet? Why is it that EVERYONE that goes to FLAG can't wait to get the hell out of!

I have heard from so many clams that they will never go back to the Fraud Scam Base!

You forgot to add that after they get all of the donations, then they discover something in the pc folder that makes them unqualified for Flag Base and they tell them they are not allowed on Flag base and then try to get them to just donate the money with no services!

Little trick. At Flag and CCI there are strict qualifications to be in those orgs and there are some that cannot be on base or receive services at all.

For example at Flag and CCI they cannot be on base if they have any psychotic break history or if they have ever attempted suicide, or had suicidal thoughts. (These rules developed over time due to things that have happened in both orgs). Other orgs may or may not have adopted those same rules.

 

[Idle Morgue]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

You forgot to add that after they get all of the donations, then they discover something in the pc folder that makes them unqualified for Flag Base and they tell them they are not allowed on Flag base and then try to get them to just donate the money with no services!

Little trick. At Flag and CCI there are strict qualifications to be in those orgs and there are some that cannot be on base or receive services at all.

For example at Flag and CCI they cannot be on base if they have any psychotic break history or if they have ever attempted suicide, or had suicidal thoughts. (These rules developed over time due to things that have happened in both orgs). Other orgs may or may not have adopted those same rules.

Right on Bea - it is called the "Illegal PC SCAM" and it is only offered at Flag, ASS-Hole, A-Hole and CC!

The smaller Morgues make their bread and butter money off of "Illegal PC's" and are encouraged to take them in Scientology...then they lube up the PC real good - get them to put money on account at FLAG so the smaller Org's get their "commission" - only they never get it cuz the "Illegal" is told to leave AFTER the Cult has fleeced them of their money.

Flag keeps the money cuz the "Illegal PC" is so upset and blown away - they don't even think about it!!

It is a HUGE money maker for the Cult of Scientology.

By the way - EVERYONE can be deemed an "illegal PC" - just look at ole TURD's list of what deems one "illegal". So Hubbard designed this to get rid of people and keep their money.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

Right on Bea - it is called the "Illegal PC SCAM" and it is only offered at Flag, ASS-Hole, A-Hole and CC!

The smaller Morgues make their bread and butter money off of "Illegal PC's" and are encouraged to take them in Scientology...then they lube up the PC real good - get them to put money on account at FLAG so the smaller Org's get their "commission" - only they never get it cuz the "Illegal" is told to leave AFTER the Cult has fleeced them of their money.

Flag keeps the money cuz the "Illegal PC" is so upset and blown away - they don't even think about it!!

It is a HUGE money maker for the Cult of Scientology.

By the way - EVERYONE can be deemed an "illegal PC" - just look at ole TURD's list of what deems one "illegal". So Hubbard designed this to get rid of people and keep their money.

Per policy Ron was an Illegal PC.

Seriously.

 

[Udarnik]

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Per policy Ron was an Illegal PC.

Seriously.

For the drug use at the very least. Did he ever see a shrink?

Wait, wasn't "Snake" Thompson a shrink, allegedly a student of Freud?

 

[Danger Mouse]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

How many Stupid Moments are we up to now?

 

[guanoloco]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

Per policy Ron was an Illegal PC.

Seriously.

He's also outqual for the SO, HCO and any exec post per policy.

For real.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

For the drug use at the very least. Did he ever see a shrink?

Wait, wasn't "Snake" Thompson a shrink, allegedly a student of Freud?

Yeah, psychs were thanked in the forward of Hubbard's original books. Later (like most everyone in his life) he turned on them as SPs. The original acknowledgement to Freud has been disappeared by the Ministry of Truth.

Hubbard's "Illegal PC" status is mandated on quite a variety of fronts in addition to his drugs. What about Hubbard's suicidal thoughts/plans near the end of his life when he ordered a lethal voltage "e-meter" to be constructed to electroshock his BTs and kill his body? What about Hubbard's vast number of criminal acts for which he was not caught (e.g. tax evasion, espionage, bribery, fraud, conversion of corporate/church assets, false incrimination and framing of innocent persons, et al…).

After the very first auditing session where Hubbard "got off his withholds" he would have been sent to the MAA and declared an illegal pc. The MAA would have advised him to "take responsibility" for the felonious overts and then, later when successfully accomplished, petition to get back on lines.

AUDITOR
(steering with meter)
That…that….that…that….

HUBBARD
Oh--that was when I stalked and framed Paulette Cooper
for bomb threats, tried to drive her into prison,
an insane asylum or to suicide.

AUDITOR
Thank you. When was that?

HUBBARD
Are you writing this shit down?!

AUDITOR
Yes, sir. Standard tech!

HUBBARD
Give me that goddamned worksheet
you fucking SP.

AUDITOR
Yes sir.
(hands it over)
Here you go, sir.

HUBBARD
(crinkles it up)
I just saved your eternity.
WTF were you thinking?

AUDITOR
Sir, I was going to send it to the CS so
you could be routed to Ethics and
handled as an Illegal PC.

HUBBARD
Try that again and you are going to routed
right out of Scientology on your ass, as an Illegal PC!

AUDITOR
Me? Illegal PC? What crime did I do sir?

HUBBARD
You just committed the most serious
crime of all--whistleblowing.


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[guanoloco]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

Yeah, psychs were thanked in the forward of Hubbard's original books. Later (like most everyone in his life) he turned on them as SPs. The original acknowledgement to Freud has been disappeared by the Ministry of Truth.

Hubbard's "Illegal PC" status is mandated on quite a variety of fronts in addition to his drugs. What about Hubbard's suicidal thoughts/plans near the end of his life when he ordered a lethal voltage "e-meter" to be constructed to electroshock his BTs and kill his body? What about Hubbard's vast number of criminal acts for which he was not caught (e.g. tax evasion, espionage, bribery, fraud, conversion of corporate/church assets, false incrimination and framing of innocent persons, et al…).

After the very first auditing session where Hubbard "got off his withholds" he would have been sent to the MAA and declared an illegal pc. The MAA would have advised him to "take responsibility" for the felonious overts and then, later when successfully accomplished, petition to get back on lines.

AUDITOR
(steering with meter)
That…that….that…that….

HUBBARD
Oh--that was when I stalked and framed Paulette Cooper
for bomb threats, tried to drive her into prison,
an insane asylum or to suicide.

AUDITOR
Thank you. When was that?

HUBBARD
Are you writing this shit down?!

AUDITOR
Yes, sir. Standard tech!

HUBBARD
Give me that goddamned worksheet
you fucking SP.

AUDITOR
Yes sir.
(hands it over)
Here you go, sir.

HUBBARD
(crinkles it up)
I just saved your eternity.
WTF were you thinking?

AUDITOR
Sir, I was going to send it to the CS so
you could be routed to Ethics and
handled as an Illegal PC.

HUBBARD
Try that again and you are going to routed
right out of Scientology on your ass, as an Illegal PC!

AUDITOR
Me? Illegal PC? What crime did I do sir?

HUBBARD
You just committed the most serious
crime of all--whistleblowing.


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....Affirmation tech and all that Antichrist stuff...well...that's "other practices"...and Moon child sex orgies just has to be discreditable acts for which one could be blackmailed...

 

[guanoloco]

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Hey...guess what...the new Mark VIII meters cannot be purchased with money on account...only new money paid in...the reason is because money on account has to be used to redo all the courses...Yaaaaaaay!

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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Hey...guess what...the new Mark VIII meters cannot be purchased with money on account...only new money paid in...the reason is because money on account has to be used to redo all the courses...Yaaaaaaay!

For real?

I actually can't tell any more what is a joke and what Scientology is actually doing. Which is also a joke.

 

[guanoloco]

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For real?

I actually can't tell any more what is a joke and what Scientology is actually doing. Which is also a joke.

For real...just got off the phone...which is psychotic...on this planet...