Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology - PART ONE

[HelluvaHoax!]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

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Everything in Scientology is geared for "EXPANSION!"

One stupid problem: It doesn't ever work because of one powerfully paralyzing paradox. . .

The problem with every single Scientology "boom" or period of "upstats" is simply this:

More stats (if they are genuine) means more people are doing Scientology.

Which, in turn, means that the vast majority of those people are blowing after discovering the sheer fraud of it.

Thus, more disgruntled blows means there are far more antagonistic apostates of Scientology being set loose into the environment. That lethal ratio of 'new scientologists made' to 'new enemies made' is approximately 1:99.

Ergo, trying to expand Scientology is like trying to blow up a balloon while using a pin to open up 99 more holes "so the air can flood into it".​

 

[Udarnik]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

See here - Ron's tech works so well that every Scientology org is forced to have 3 Div 6's - you know...like 666...that's because Ron's tech [STRIKE]bows[/STRIKE] blows the floor joists [STRIKE]with traffic[/STRIKE] like the charges in a controlled demolition

FIFY

 

[ForLease]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

Got a personality test in the mail yesterday. Evidently they're junk-mailing the whole neighborhood.

Hey, Co$ – you want to know my ruin? It's having to drive past a blue monstrosity every day.

One with fancy new signs, but structurally falling apart.

And I know what goes on inside.

 

[In present time]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

Pasted from another thread, but deserves a place here

In John Duignans book, "The Complex" he says that since the 1980's $cn had been attempting to set up an advanced computerised admin system of their own.


Hubbard had claimed to recall that entire planetary systems had been run and administered by dedicated networks.
He demanded that church admin develop such a system for the cherch.
Hubbard considered the barbaric state of the wog world science and humanities meant everything had to be developed in house.
Instead of buying and installing a known database software package, he had tried to create their own using whole track recall.


He had hoped someone could be audited to recall the systems of the galactic confederacy then this could beat any primitive system on planet earth.


This initially saw Sea Org members flying to Taiwan buying individual components and microchips from several seperate manufactures and brought back to L.A.
A large number of S.O staff were then taken off normal duties to work assembly lines, making their very own servers and PC's.


The initial batches were shipped out to Orgs... But they didn't work.
The software packages didn't work either.
Eventually, everyone involved in that project...wait for it... were sent to RPF or declared SP!


The cherch eventually caved in to IBM, Microsoft, Cisco and Novell.

 

[Edugui]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

in regards to the OP, I guess one of the mooooost stupid moments in Scientology, is when this man, Randy Ironside, you can search for him in Facebook if you want, comes to our group of spanish speaking independent scientologists, threatening the creator of the group, I am going to sue you, you will soon be in jail, let's see if you can do anything against the top quality layers of OSA, we began to, how can I say, bullbait him, he began to personally insult us, you most be a faggot, this dude seems like an SP, you are an asshole, stupid, etc etc, in another group, bigger but with less people commenting, he fought with another man, insulting him like he did with all of us, we got sick of him, the leader of the group said, hey, I know who you are and where you live, it was easy, all a result of applying the Research Tech., I first was like what, do you really know that?, a female member explained me we were putting fear in him, I got it "cool" I thought, I wrote him, hey, we are not going to do you any harm, but you, should be careful but other people are less ethical, pay attention to the persons who fiercely look at you in the next days, next day, he blocked me, he blocked the rest of the members of the group haha, end of the story.

And I guess the lesson is the same as always, DO NOT FEED THE TROLL, sadly the leader did quite the contrary, he wrote him a reactive response, you are an homophobic, I feel pity for you, etcetera etcetera, or if you are feeding him, have fun with him, this Randy dude had 33 friends on Facebook, one of them was Sharon Travolta, other was Ken Kramer, not sure who is him but I think he is an important lawyer, this poor asshole was being feel brave because of having this such contacts hahaha, and I told that to him, poor stupid guy.

One day came an issue that many many trolls were also psychopats, or sociophats, the psych form of saying suppresive person, yes, they're definition is not even clear, they haven't managed to define that label is for a person with bad intentions, who harm others. So, yeah, the next time you deal with a troll, have fun scaring him,

 

[Edugui]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

UPDATE UPDATE

The kid unblocked me on Facebook, and he is still on another group terrorizing people, I told the group about what happened with him in other group, he sent me this message

• 
  21:39
  
  ​
  
  Randy IronsideHola Tonto. Si vuelves a publicar cualquier cosa con referencia a mi persona, se va a proceder judicialmente en contra tuya, debido a que yo ya terminé mi conversación con otras personas que no eran tu; tu te metiste a donde yo no te llame y me vi en la penosa pérdida de tiempo de contestarte lo que según yo, correspondía; si desde el principio viste que NO me dirigí a ti, hubiera sido muy inteligente de tu parte el no meterte en esa conversación; pero ahora vas a tener que responder si a partir de éste momento haces cualquier otra referencia en cualquier página o grupo acerca de mí. Te lo advierto y espero que tomes en cuenta que nunca me dirigí a ti excepto cuando te metiste en la conversación e investigación que se llevó a cabo anteriormente.Así que, si aparece cualquier nota en referencia a mí de tu parte, recibiras el citatorio judicial correspondiente.Gracias.Nota. Lo que yo hice o haga, así como quien soy, de donde vengo o a qué me dedico. no es de tu incumbencia.
  
  It says more less:
  
  "If you publish again anything regarded to myself, it is going to be legally proceed agains you..."
  
  This kind of attitude, this kind of abuse of power is what we people want to eliminate from Earth. Going to start exposing him
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

Originally posted by Edugui

in regards to the OP, I guess one of the mooooost stupid moments in Scientology, is when this man, Randy Ironside, you can search for him in Facebook if you want, comes to our group of spanish speaking independent scientologists, threatening the creator of the group, I am going to sue you, you will soon be in jail, let's see if you can do anything against the top quality layers of OSA, we began to, how can I say, bullbait him, he began to personally insult us, you most be a faggot, this dude seems like an SP, you are an asshole, stupid, etc etc, in another group, bigger but with less people commenting, he fought with another man, insulting him like he did with all of us, we got sick of him, the leader of the group said, hey, I know who you are and where you live, it was easy, all a result of applying the Research Tech., I first was like what, do you really know that?, a female member explained me we were putting fear in him, I got it "cool" I thought, I wrote him, hey, we are not going to do you any harm, but you, should be careful but other people are less ethical, pay attention to the persons who fiercely look at you in the next days, next day, he blocked me, he blocked the rest of the members of the group haha, end of the story.

And I guess the lesson is the same as always, DO NOT FEED THE TROLL, sadly the leader did quite the contrary, he wrote him a reactive response, you are an homophobic, I feel pity for you, etcetera etcetera, or if you are feeding him, have fun with him, this Randy dude had 33 friends on Facebook, one of them was Sharon Travolta, other was Ken Kramer, not sure who is him but I think he is an important lawyer, this poor asshole was being feel brave because of having this such contacts hahaha, and I told that to him, poor stupid guy.

One day came an issue that many many trolls were also psychopats, or sociophats, the psych form of saying suppresive person, yes, they're definition is not even clear, they haven't managed to define that label is for a person with bad intentions, who harm others. So, yeah, the next time you deal with a troll, have fun scaring him,

UPDATE UPDATE

The kid unblocked me on Facebook, and he is still on another group terrorizing people, I told the group about what happened with him in other group, he sent me this message

• 
  21:39
  Randy IronsideHola Tonto. Si vuelves a publicar cualquier cosa con referencia a mi persona, se va a proceder judicialmente en contra tuya, debido a que yo ya terminé mi conversación con otras personas que no eran tu; tu te metiste a donde yo no te llame y me vi en la penosa pérdida de tiempo de contestarte lo que según yo, correspondía; si desde el principio viste que NO me dirigí a ti, hubiera sido muy inteligente de tu parte el no meterte en esa conversación; pero ahora vas a tener que responder si a partir de éste momento haces cualquier otra referencia en cualquier página o grupo acerca de mí. Te lo advierto y espero que tomes en cuenta que nunca me dirigí a ti excepto cuando te metiste en la conversación e investigación que se llevó a cabo anteriormente.Así que, si aparece cualquier nota en referencia a mí de tu parte, recibiras el citatorio judicial correspondiente.Gracias.Nota. Lo que yo hice o haga, así como quien soy, de donde vengo o a qué me dedico. no es de tu incumbencia.
  
  It says more less:
  
  "If you publish again anything regarded to myself, it is going to be legally proceed agains you..."
  
  This kind of attitude, this kind of abuse of power is what we people want to eliminate from Earth. Going to start exposing him
  
  

tl:dr (too lronhubbardish didn't read)



Whoa, that's a first. An Indie Scientologist (Edgui) decides to try and troll the Stupid Thread. That's a really bad idea. LOL

Hey Edgui, go for the exits, dude--there is still time to escape. If you decide to stick around and try to become the first person to troll the Stupid Thread, good luck little buddy! LOL

HELPFUL TIP: Do a clay demo of the term "chew toy".

 

[oneonewasaracecar]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

...

Everything in Scientology is geared for "EXPANSION!"

One stupid problem: It doesn't ever work because of one powerfully paralyzing paradox. . .

The problem with every single Scientology "boom" or period of "upstats" is simply this:

More stats (if they are genuine) means more people are doing Scientology.

Which, in turn, means that the vast majority of those people are blowing after discovering the sheer fraud of it.

Thus, more disgruntled blows means there are far more antagonistic apostates of Scientology being set loose into the environment. That lethal ratio of 'new scientologists made' to 'new enemies made' is approximately 1:99.

Ergo, trying to expand Scientology is like trying to blow up a balloon while using a pin to open up 99 more holes "so the air can flood into it".​

Hubbard was never good at MEST arithmetic.

 

[Karen#1]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

Crooked former Scientologist indicted, see Tony's blog today

http://tonyortega.org/2015/05/28/former ... rerelease/

AND

he's also running for President

http://www.runfrankrun.org/​

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

Crooked former Scientologist indicted, see Tony's blog today

http://tonyortega.org/2015/05/28/former ... rerelease/

AND

he's also running for President

http://www.runfrankrun.org/​

Frank has quite the website!

My favorite part is where he is in awe of his own character. Oh yeah, he calls it his "Values".

MY VALUES
​

• Family comes first.
• Integrity matters.
• Justice should prevail.
• Service above self.
• Honesty is a given.
• Humility is a gift.
• Bipartisanship is a must.

"Honesty is a given": Ergo, no need to get all DevT'd with due diligence or that needless "Q & A" wogs call fact checking.

 

[lotus]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

Facts checking ???? What for ????

If its true for you then it's true !
:confused2:

Simple!

Anyway, when it's not true anymore, the CO$ release a RA (reality adjustment)


A to B - No Q&A - No Dev-t !

 

[Karen#1]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

Did you know that there is an
Encyclopedia of American Loons?

http://americanloons.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/957-david-miscavige.html

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

Did you know that there is an
Encyclopedia of American Loons?

http://americanloons.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/957-david-miscavige.html

lolololol too funny lolololol too stupid!

Okay, I'll see your #957 LOON and I'll raise you a #90 LOON. . .

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#90: Tom Cruise

All right – does this one really need an explanation? Rationalwiki calls him “an outspoken critic of sanity”.
Cruise is, according to Miscavige (head of the Church of Scientology) comparable to Jesus Christ,
and will spread the word of Hubbard around the world. According to some, he is the church’s
second most powerful member. Short biography here.

Diagnosis: Utterly out of touch with reason, sanity and reality. It’s hard to determine
how dangerous he is, but his church has clearly done a lot of stupid over the years.

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(Red highlight was added to the word "stupid" because I wasn't sure that I mentioned recently that Scientology was stupid. lol)

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Top 100 Stupid EXCUSES in Scientology

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Cross-Posted from another thread ("THAT is the stupidest shit I've read all day!"). It's a thread that lists out all of the countless EXCUSES that Scientologists try to use to explain why the tech didn't work and/or why a Clear/OT blew.

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Reminds me of another famous Scientology excuse, where they get quite defensive and specific about which piece of standard tech was not run, or mis-run (squirreled), on the blown OT's case. Naturally, this caused the OT's bank to cave in on them so they blew.

WARNING: RANTING MAY ENSUE AFTER THIS POINT

Scieno-Scenario: Someone who hasn't been around the org for a long time wanders in one day and is (somewhat desperately) greeted by a veteran silver haired staff member. . .

ORG EXEC
Wow! If it isn't Ricky Reese! I haven't
seen you for ages. Where have you been, my friend?

RICKY
Oh hey. Yeah, it's been about 8 years. I kind of
went through a rough spot, got divorced, went
bankrupt, lost my house and job and had to move
back to my parent's basement. So, yeah, it
took me a while to start getting back on my feet.

ORG EXEC
Well, we've got to get you back on your Bridge
so you can handle whatever was happening then that
caused all those downstats, PTSness and crashing dynamics.

RICKY
Um, well, that's sort of why I came in today. When
I was on the Bridge, that's kind of what caused me
to go crazy and max out my charge cards, take loans,
triple mortgage my house and--well--I sort of wanted
to find out if I could get some of my money back.
I really need it now and--

ORG EXEC
My friend, back when you were online
the tech was not standard. You missed
some vital pieces of tech and that caused
BPC on your case, so of course you ran
into big case trouble. We can handle that now!

RICKY
(looking around the org and noticing
it's completely void of people and activity)
Hey, where is everybody? It
used to be so crowded and busy!

ORG EXEC
Oh, we've been flourishing and prospering
like never before! Have you seen COB's
new briefing on "Planetary Dissemination
at Unprecedented Orders of Magnitude"?
Let me set up the DVD for you, it'll totally
answer all your questions about everything!

RICKY
I don't know.....Where's my old auditor Fred Freeman?

ORG EXEC
Oh, he is off on a leave of absence
handling some cycles.

RICKY
Really? I heard he blew.

ORG EXEC
Well, when he did his Grades, back in the
day, they only ran 3 flows, not 4 flows. So
he got a huge amount of BPC and, well
you know what Ron says happens then.

RICKY
Then where is my old course
supervisor, Denise Demmo? I heard she blew too.

ORG EXEC
Oh! Well, when she attested to her Clear cycle,
that was before the Golden Age of Technology
had gotten the Purif tech totally standardized,
so her drug case had not been totally handled and--

RICKY
What about Greg Greene, the ED? Where's he?

ORG EXEC
Um, he's on mission.

RICKY
No he's not. I just visited him in the hospital
this morning. He said he's been waiting for
an auditor for 2 years because nobody
is his case level since he returned from
Flag after attesting to OT VII.

ORG EXEC
Yeah, okay, but he did the old OT VII
which was before they got in the
lower bridge where you have to
do at least 100 hours of objectives so--

RICKY
But I don't even see any public here. Where is
everybody? Where is Patty Patrona? She donated
a million dollars to the Ideal Org program and used to
give all those seminars on OT postulates after
finishing OT VIII. I want to talk to her, when will she be in?

ORG EXEC
Well, she ran into an ethics sit that she's handling.

RICKY
So what I heard is true? She's declared SP?

ORG EXEC
No that's not exactly it. She's just, um.....

RICKY
How can an OT VIII be an SP?

ORG EXEC
Well, I'm glad you asked me that. Actually,
she is the only one that said she was OT VIII.
You know, she is the one that false attested
to that level. Each person has to keep their
ethics in or Ron's tech won't work.

RICKY
So, even an OT VIII went out ethics?

ORG EXEC
Yeah that used to happen, not any more.
She did her Bridge before they ran overts
correctly. They used to leave by-passed-charge
because after the person got the overt off they
didn't ask for justifcations.

RICKY
Justifications?

ORG EXEC
Yes exactly! If a being justifies or makes
excuses for their overts they never handle
their case and are stuck in their blind spot--do
you duplicate what I am saying about justifications?

RICKY
Yeah, completely--I've been standing right in
front of you for the past ten minutes while you
have been doing a live demonstration of it.





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[HelluvaHoax!]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

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Another stupid reason the tech didn't work which is why Billy Blowdown blew. . .

...

...because the tech was not delivered in an IDEAL ORG and auditing doesn't work
unless the room has recently been remodeled. ​

 

[Leland]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

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Another stupid reason the tech didn't work which is why Billy Blowdown blew. . .

They didn't have video cameras and voice recordings in the "old days" so the cult could not get every word of every overt....to use against that guy in the future....

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

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Oh yeah, one more thing about those excuses that Scientologists make for why the tech didn't work. . .

Dr. Hubbard himself made more excuses than any other living human. Except he didn't call them "excuses" or "justifications". He called them "technical breakthroughs" LOL.

Some of Hubbard's better known excuses for why his 100% workable tech failed to work 99% of the time (i.e. 99% of Scientologists end up blowing) is right there in "Keeping Scientology Working".

"Auditor B's IQ was about 75."


​

In all my years in Scientology, I always wondered who "Auditor B" was.

I just located him! Thank God! FINALLY!

BILLY BLOWDOWN
Always FNing!
Always VVGIs!
Always winning!

BILLY RECEIVES MEDAL OF FINANCIAL INSOUCIANCE
after making org staff members signatory to all his bank and retirement accounts.

SUCCESS STORY
At one time I was worried about psychs & squirrels & nuclear war!
And that I would not make it out of the MEST trap this lifetime.
But then I realized that my new Mark IX meter has the just
released ClearCoat[SUP]tm[/SUP] wear protection added to the cans.
So if anything DevT happens, like a nuclear war,
I can just quickly bury them in my backyard
and dig them out next lifetime.​

 

[lotus]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

Originally Posted by HelluvaHoax! View Post
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...because the tech was not delivered in an IDEAL ORG and auditing doesn't work
unless the room has recently been remodeled.

Certainly it is

Thetans, especially huge thetans, need things to be carried on an aesthetic wavelenght!
Creation is an aesthetic postulate - Oatee universes must be adressed in such remodeled aesthetic environment.

Dear Hoaxy, if you'd done the course on art, and grow an artsy beingness, you'd be aware of such obvious evident truthness

:confused2:

ML
ARC

Lotus
XXX

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

Certainly it is

Thetan, especially huge thetan, need things to be carried on a aesthetic wavelenght!
Creation is an aesthetic postulate - Oatee universes must be adressed in such remodeled aesthetic environment.

Dear Hoaxy, if you'd done the course on art, and grow an artist beingness, you'd be aware of such obvious evident truthness

:confused2:

ML
ARC

Lotus
XXX

Hey Hey! I just noticed that lovely quote in your sig line. . .

“All grown-ups were once children... ”
Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, The Little Prince
​

Beautiful!

I beg your permission (because this is the Stupid Thread) to give the expanded OT version of that quote:

All grown-ups were once children. . .

All children once believed in Superman,
Superpowers, Soupcans & Scientology. ​

 

[Karen#1]

Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

Because I have received threat letters from Miscavige go-to gopher Lawyer Gary Soter (at least once a year) and these have gotten published on the Internet, other people have sent me their Gary Soter letters. Some do not want them published but they are a hoot to read.
This one, Perry gave go ahead to publish.
It is not a threat letter but gives an example of how the *Cherch* want to hold on to your :::::::::ahem::::::::::*Donations* : Please read the intent and laugh with me.​