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Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology - PART ONE

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HelluvaHoax!

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Because I have received threat letters from Miscavige go-to gopher Lawyer Gary Soter (at least once a year) and these have gotten published on the Internet, other people have sent me their Gary Soter letters. Some do not want them published but they are a hoot to read.
This one, Perry gave go ahead to publish.
It is not a threat letter but gives an example of how the *Cherch* want to hold on to your :::::::::ahem::::::::::*Donations* : Please read the intent and laugh with me.


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Amazing stuff! So church-like and spiritual! LOL

HELPFUL TIP TO GARY SOTER: Gary, you can save a lot of DevT in the future by sending a much shorter, to-the-point letter. Sample below:



Dear Defrocked Apostate:

I have reviewed your letter and because you no longer are a money source to my client, they don't actually care what you say. The bottom line is that my client found a legal loophole that they used to make it go right to defraud you. Maybe if you had stayed in the church, done your bridge and become "total cause" you wouldn't be pulling this shit in. LOL.

Very Truly Yours,

Gary Soter
 

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LOL

Amazing stuff! So church-like and spiritual! LOL

HELPFUL TIP TO GARY SOTER: Gary, you can save a lot of DevT in the future by sending a much shorter, to-the-point letter. Sample below:



Dear Defrocked Apostate:

I have reviewed your letter and because you no longer are a money source to my client, they don't actually care what you say. The bottom line is that my client found a legal loophole that they used to make it go right to defraud you. Maybe if you had stayed in the church, done your bridge and become "total cause" you wouldn't be pulling this shit in. LOL.

Very Truly Yours,

Gary Soter
It's so hard to tell if one is parodying the Scientology organization or not.
 

This is NOT OK !!!!

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Another stupid reason the tech didn't work which is why Billy Blowdown blew. . .

Billy blew?

When? Where?

We were twins back in the day on the HQS course.

One time, while I was running book and bottle on him, he said he was exterior with full perceptions. I turned my back and asked him what color my tie was and he said red. Being in the SO, my tie was black of course, so I didn't think very highly of Billy's awareness. So I smoothly ended session and while Billy was f/ning at exam, I wrote a KR to the C/S. All I got back was a cram about not invalidating my PC's wins. :duh:

Well, it all makes sense now. I recently saw that C/S on the RPF's RPF.

Thankfully COB is getting standard tech in, so that book and bottle is run to the full EP, even if it takes hundreds or thousands of hours.

Billy Blowdown has become Billy Blewdown!

Goes to show you what happens when the tech isn't applied 100%!
 

lotus

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It's so hard to tell if one is parodying the Scientology organization or not.

One has to take all Hoaxy posts receipies
and add more flavour of

cruelty
malignancy
paranoia
retardness
lies
insanity

and he is getting the real $cientology version...:confused2:
 
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It's only a couple minute video, but I think I am going to have nightmares for a couple months. . .


[video]http://www.ina.fr/video/CAF93026901/la-scientologie-video.html[/video]


It's simply amazing that something that is so culty, cringey & creepy doesn't seem that way when you are on the inside.

These 1972 Scientologists look really scary.

Actually, they were scary. That was a time period that Hubbard was ordering cult members all over the world to commit felonies and destroy his enemies. And they were happy to do whatever he ordered them.

And stupid too, did I mention that recently? LOL
 

Free Being Me

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It's only a couple minute video, but I think I am going to have nightmares for a couple months. . .


[video]http://www.ina.fr/video/CAF93026901/la-scientologie-video.html[/video]


It's simply amazing that something that is so culty, cringey & creepy doesn't seem that way when you are on the inside.

These 1972 Scientologists look really scary.

Actually, they were scary. That was a time period that Hubbard was ordering cult members all over the world to commit felonies and destroy his enemies. And they were happy to do whatever he ordered them.

And stupid too, did I mention that recently? LOL

I watched that video. Shudder. What's cringy scary is $cio's are just as dedicated today as back then. The Sector Salvagers with the Soup Cans of Somnolism completely creep me out.
 

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It's only a couple minute video, but I think I am going to have nightmares for a couple months. . .


[video]http://www.ina.fr/video/CAF93026901/la-scientologie-video.html[/video]


It's simply amazing that something that is so culty, cringey & creepy doesn't seem that way when you are on the inside.

These 1972 Scientologists look really scary.

Actually, they were scary. That was a time period that Hubbard was ordering cult members all over the world to commit felonies and destroy his enemies. And they were happy to do whatever he ordered them.

And stupid too, did I mention that recently? LOL

SACRED FECES!! That IS scary! :omg: The scariest thing about it is knowing those Scilons are probably sincere!
I never saw anything that looked so much like a real church in the short time I was In! If I'd seen a performance like that in the 70's, I might have blown even earlier than I did.

Okay, I don't have anything like the experience of a lot of you guys here: As I've said before, I was not on Staff, but I've always considered myself more than just "Public", because I did serious volunteer work at FCDC for years while my wife was on Staff. I did qualify as a Dianetics Auditor--just before NED was introduced, which would have made my training obsolete, (if I'd given a shit)--although I didn't stay involved long enough to understand that was how it worked---

Okay, strayed off on a tangent there, but my point is that by the early 70's, before I encountered $cn, I had given up on the church(es) of my upbringing. I don't know that I could have articulated most of the fallacies at the time, but I was vaguely aware that their common fallacy was DOGMA: The absolute refusal even to consider that they might be the teeniest bit mistaken about any of their basic tenets, regardless of what they encountered in the real world. (My mother visited the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History and looked at excavated bones reassembled into dinosaur skeletons, and she still didn't believe in dinosaurs. And folks, she actually had a high IQ: She was intelligent, but her mind was shackled by dogma. In retrospect, it can be heartbreaking!)

One day I'll give a fuller account of my rather boring story in the Co$, but here's part of it: One of the hooks that caught my attention from the first was the idea of a "Scientific Religion"--a religion based on provable, demonstrable facts and research. One of LRH's quotes that pulled me in--don't remember where/when He said it, and I can't actually quote it, but it amounted to something like, 'When evaluating the validity of a study/practice/group/whatever, one must go on proven facts alone--there can be no "Recourse to Authority"...ect'.

When I read that, I believed Scientologists took it seriously and I was sucked in. I was willing to "suspend disbelief" and join the Church. I wanted some of that! I extended my trust and had faith that I would eventually encounter, in my studies and experience, those demonstrable facts that the Church's tenets were founded on. It took a few years before I looked up one day and realized that everything I had seen and heard was still all faith and no evidence, and some of the evidence was contrary to what I'd been implicitly promised I would see. And I also noticed that whenever I questioned the discrepancies between "scripture" and observation (Hey, that Clear still needs glasses, and there's another Clear who can't remember the name of the girl he met yesterday...) I was routed to Ethics rather than given an explanation.

At that point, the Co$ began to occur to me more and more like the dogmatic churches I grew up with--like any doubt was the devil's doing = out-ethics. They began to feel the same, and I was already familiar, from my upbringing, with the absolute refusal to recognize reality that contradicts Scripture. I eventually recognized that same dynamic was happening in the Co$.

When I joined the Church, I had suspended disbelief--the way I do when I read a good fiction novel, or when I study a subject that seems implausible until I accumulate enough understanding to see why it actually is plausible. For example, it's intuitive that the world is static and the sun rises and sets. It takes some education to understand that we're rotating and the sun, relative to us, is static. A static sun and rotating Earth is counterintuitive and may require suspension of disbelief long enough to learn all the evidence that compels the conclusion. Well, I'd studied for more than a year on a prescribed curriculum, and realized that I'd seen no evidence for the certainty of what I'd been taught.

I had suspended disbelief--I hadn't revoked it; so at that point, I reinstated disbelief, did a Doubt Formula and cycled out of participation in courses and auditing. I didn't get myself Declared SP, I guess because I wasn't very vocal about my doubts ( and maybe because I was still financially supporting my wife, and partially supporting another staff couple living with us).

Anyway--back to the original point, I attribute part of my wake-up call-to-reality to recognizing that dogmatic church-feeling. If I'd encountered scenes like the one in this video, it might have blown me out earlier.
 

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I watched that video. Shudder. What's cringy scary is $cio's are just as dedicated today as back then. The Sector Salvagers with the Soup Cans of Somnolism completely creep me out.

Yep. One of those on the video was David Gaiman who was still dedicated to the CoS until his death in 2009.

Sometimes you have to wonder just what it would take for some of these people to realise the truth.:confused2:
 

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It's only a couple minute video, but I think I am going to have nightmares for a couple months. . .


[video]http://www.ina.fr/video/CAF93026901/la-scientologie-video.html[/video]

The video really needs some Terry Gilliam animation

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Yep. One of those on the video was David Gaiman who was still dedicated to the CoS until his death in 2009.

Sometimes you have to wonder just what it would take for some of these people to realise the truth.:confused2:


That's one of the "Ten Wonders of the Modern World". Scientology picking David Gaiman with all his nervous tics, sleazy expressions and stammering as their INTERNATIONAL SPOKESMAN!

I'd put Heber's buffoonery and Tommy Davis' embarrassingly amateurish acting/lying routines as close seconds in the quest for world's worst corporate spokesperson.

The situation with Scientology's inept, self-destructive spokespersons became so grim that they resorted to an even stupider solution which is to have NO SPOKESPERSON at all. lolololololololol
 

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It's only a couple minute video, but I think I am going to have nightmares for a couple months. . .


[video]http://www.ina.fr/video/CAF93026901/la-scientologie-video.html[/video]


It's simply amazing that something that is so culty, cringey & creepy doesn't seem that way when you are on the inside.

These 1972 Scientologists look really scary.

Actually, they were scary. That was a time period that Hubbard was ordering cult members all over the world to commit felonies and destroy his enemies. And they were happy to do whatever he ordered them.

And stupid too, did I mention that recently? LOL


What you have written is so very true!
In addition to my other cringeworthy and illegal activities, I was the Chaplain at the New York Org, and conducted Sunday Service exactly as shown.
As a Scientologist, I could rationalize and justify ​anything.
 

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Yep. One of those on the video was David Gaiman who was still dedicated to the CoS until his death in 2009.

Sometimes you have to wonder just what it would take for some of these people to realise the truth.:confused2:


Typically, it takes the COS attacking them personally for them to get the idea that something is not so great about "Total Freedom".

But, even being under brutal physical or psychological attack is sometimes not enough--witness people like Heber Jentzch who allows themselves to be brutalized, degraded and imprisoned and apathetically goes along with it like it's a good thing.

But, let's be honest about the decrepit state of the cult in 2015. They are so pathetic that they can't even find a spokesperson to speak in front of the cameras. Not even their divine leader is brave enough to speak to the media.

Rather remarkable, isn't it, that the supernatural saviors of the world are too terrified to speak to the people they are saving.
 

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I really did like Heber back in the day before he came the spokeshole - then he was cringe worthy.

It is scary to watch that video & realize I had that minister's collar, that very cross around my neck, & the identical book.

I even had ' Reverend ' on my checks !

Looking back I have no excuse for being a fucking fool for so long.

And as HH said, I saw NOTHING at ALL as WRONG, uh, until they hit ME - then it all hit the fan at once.

At least on my doubt formula I saw I couldn't be one of them for one more second ... eternity my ass ... I was GONE !
 

lotus

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It's only a couple minute video, but I think I am going to have nightmares for a couple months. . .


[video]http://www.ina.fr/video/CAF93026901/la-scientologie-video.html[/video]

OMG :omg:

It's freaking :omg:

Like a cheap vampire 70's movie script . :nervous:
It'sl ike they're going to perform a sort of religious sacrifice ritual
Alfred Hitchcock style...


Don't tell me there are really people joining this freaking cult ????
I can't believe it! :duh:
 

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That's one of the "Ten Wonders of the Modern World". Scientology picking David Gaiman with all his nervous tics, sleazy expressions and stammering as their INTERNATIONAL SPOKESMAN!

I'd put Heber's buffoonery and Tommy Davis' embarrassingly amateurish acting/lying routines as close seconds in the quest for world's worst corporate spokesperson.

The situation with Scientology's inept, self-destructive spokespersons became so grim that they resorted to an even stupider solution which is to have NO SPOKESPERSON at all. lolololololololol


"The situation with Scientology's inept, self-destructive spokespersons became so grim that they resorted to an even stupider solution which is to have NO SPOKESPERSON at all. lolololololololol"


I think that is why they call it a SPOKESHOLE.

LOL:lol::hattip:
 

eldritch cuckoo

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You suggest an interesting theory. The longer a person is in full immersion the more distant outside influences become which would be part of any routine discussion or session and so chances of a Rock Slam being Scientology related exponentially increase. So maybe the corollary is something along the lines of, "The longer a person is in the Sea Org, the more likely they can make the needle float if they think about life before or off staff."

There is a world where you can watch football or Mad Men on TV late into the night, start up the barbie with a beer, and sleep in with your significant other - married or not........ "Thank you! You're needle is floating, you can leave the RPF now!"

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"The situation with Scientology's inept, self-destructive spokespersons became so grim that they resorted to an even stupider solution which is to have NO SPOKESPERSON at all. lolololololololol"


I think that is why they call it a SPOKESHOLE.

LOL:lol::hattip:


like - "We used to have a spokesperson, but that person has now chosen to live in the hole."
 
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