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Type4_PTS

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Anybody notice a trend here?
Something else I also noticed.

Something in common between John Gotti Jr and John Travolta, besides their names.

They both have had close connections to organized crime.

JT is closely connected to CoS. Doesn't that make him PTS? :unsure:
 

Jim Dandy

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Travolta has had two "passion projects" in his career. The first was of course Battlefield Earth.

<I'll pause for the laughter to subside>

And now his second and current "passion project" is Gotti. And well......

'Gotti': How John Travolta Tried — and Failed — to Save His Passion Project


"From the Cannes Film Festival to a posh New York City premiere to stops in cities including Phoenix and Miami, John Travolta tirelessly promoted his new movie, Gotti. He even joined social media for the first time in order to spread the word.

The reason for his dedication? Travola believed his performance as the late John Gotti, one of the most famous mafia bosses in history, would make him a player in the next awards race, according to several insiders who have been closely involved with the biopic.

But the famous actor and his film were dealt a bruising blow when Gotti was assassinated by critics, receiving a rare zero percent rating on Rotten Tomatoes on the eve of its opening in 503 theaters spread across 25 cities. Over the weekend, the indie film debuted to $1.7 million. While the film is not an out-and-out bomb, Gotti's theatrical run is nevertheless endangered, save for those cinemas in seven locales where the film held its own...."

Think Tommy Cruise will have another talk with Darth McSavage about JT? "Hey Dave what the fuck man! This movie is a disaster....it makes all of us look bad!"
 

Dave B.

Maximus Ultimus Mostimus
For anyone interested, there is almost as much hyperbole, scheming, spinning and LYING in the film industry as their is in the cult of Scientology.

But, instead of promising to make people into worshipped Gods with supernatural powers, the movie rackets promise to make people into worshipped Movie Stars (a special kind of God) with supernatural bank account balances.

Here's a quick peek into the blatant lying and criminality that is part of why Gotti is a disaster. . . (aside from the simple and obvious fact that the producers didn't know how to produce, the director didn't know how to direct, the actors didn't know how to act and the writer didn't know how to write).

example: The hyperbolic lying bubble around why the movie was dumped by the previous distributor:


LOL. Lionsgate NEVER EVER would have released the film back to the producers or another distributor if they thought they could make money from it. They knew it was a bomb, so they were more than happy to bail out and let the "producers" pretend that it was a win that they got the film back.

Now, how about Gotti "Executive Producer" KEYA MORGAN saying that he predicts "gangbuster" box-office numbers and "awards"? LOL LOL LOL

What kind of lying freak would say such an outrageous pack of lies?

ANSWER: A con man.

Keya Morgan is a shady Hollywood character who is currently in the news for trying to steer legendary Marvel Comics founder and mega-rich old dude STAN LEE into a web of deceit and control of his vast fortune and portfolio of movie properties. Morgan was keeping Stan Lee under "house arrest" not giving anyone including family access to him. The police had to be called and a RESTRAINING ORDER issued against him for elder abuse and other charges.

see LINK

Anyways, that blockbuster with awards prediction has got to be the most ludicrous lie everyone on the Gotti film must have been feeding not only the press but each other for the past 11 years!

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HH, you've pretty much summed it up.
 

ILove2Lurk

Lisbeth Salander
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My husband is the mob movie expert. Here are
two entertaining or at least passable Gotti movies.

. . . . gotti_215.jpg . . . . Witness_290.jpg
Jeffrey Meyers
RT Super Reviewer
Gotti is a gritty, well acted, and complex look at the rise and fall of John Gotti.​
I thought Armand Assante did a terrific job as John Gotti, slick, bombastic, but​
also nuanced. It's inevitable to compare this to Witness to the Mob. Witness​
to the Mob was superior from a factual standpoint, covering much more ground​
in its three hour run time than Gotti.
Ultimately I'd have to go with Tom Sizemore over Armand Assante for the most​
accurate depiction of Gotti, as Sizemore mastered Gotti's flare of arrogance and​
naiveté to an extent that Armand didn't quite get up to. At the same time,​
William Forsythe as Sammy the Bull was superior than Sammy's portrayal in​
Witness to the Mob. His personality as cold, calculating, and ambiguous,​
surely matches Gravano more closely than the positive spin Witness took on him.
Overall, Gotti is better from a film making standpoint, with sharper, more realistic​
dialogue.​
:shrug:
 

triumph

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Indewire

‘Gotti’ Star John Travolta Needs Serious Help: Career Watch

Now 64, Travolta keeps churning out one forgettable programmer after another. Can his career be saved?
by Anne Thompson

Career Watch is a vocational checkup of top actors and directors, and those who hope to get there.
Thanks to strong recognition overseas, at 64 John Travolta still carries the clout that gets movies made. But this is not always a good thing: Travolta’s passion project, “Gotti,” debuted in Cannes but opened to $1.7 million amid derisive reviews (Tomatometer: 0%).
Bottom Line: After strutting out of Broadway and television into ’70s movie stardom (led by musicals “Saturday Night Fever,” “Grease,” and “Staying Alive”), the Irish-Italian Travolta languished in the ’80s until Quentin Tarantino gave him his 1994 comeback as hitman Vincent Vega in “Pulp Fiction.” That movie returned Travolta’s swagger and while he hasn’t topped it, Travolta has surfed many career dips and swells without completely alienating his aging fan base. But “Gotti” may be the tipping point.

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Current Gossip: Ever since he joined the Church of Scientology in 1975, family man Travolta has been dogged by speculation and reporting about his sexuality. (The star denies he is gay.) With the noted exception of his cross-dressing role in “Hairspray,” Travolta has leaned away from his vulnerable, sweet side in favor of harder-edged action roles, often in B-movies.


http://www.indiewire.com/2018/06/gotti-john-travolta-career-watch-1201975291/
 

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Travolta has had two "passion projects" in his career. The first was of course Battlefield Earth.

<I'll pause for the laughter to subside>

And now his second and current "passion project" is Gotti. And well......

'Gotti': How John Travolta Tried — and Failed — to Save His Passion Project


"From the Cannes Film Festival to a posh New York City premiere to stops in cities including Phoenix and Miami, John Travolta tirelessly promoted his new movie, Gotti. He even joined social media for the first time in order to spread the word.

The reason for his dedication? Travola believed his performance as the late John Gotti, one of the most famous mafia bosses in history, would make him a player in the next awards race, according to several insiders who have been closely involved with the biopic.

But the famous actor and his film were dealt a bruising blow when Gotti was assassinated by critics, receiving a rare zero percent rating on Rotten Tomatoes on the eve of its opening in 503 theaters spread across 25 cities. Over the weekend, the indie film debuted to $1.7 million. While the film is not an out-and-out bomb, Gotti's theatrical run is nevertheless endangered, save for those cinemas in seven locales where the film held its own...."

Think Tommy Cruise will have another talk with Darth McSavage about JT? "Hey Dave what the fuck man! This movie is a disaster....it makes all of us look bad!"
Yeah, Travolta did the project to get awards.

Wrong reason to act.

The results prove that.
 

Dave B.

Maximus Ultimus Mostimus
Double bill?
Battlefield Earth and Gotti.

Prizes for sitting through both of 'em?

Nah.....probably be stopped by the UN as a human rights violation.
 

Type4_PTS

Diamond Invictus SP
Double bill?
Battlefield Earth and Gotti.

Prizes for sitting through both of 'em?

Nah.....probably be stopped by the UN as a human rights violation.
In the past the CIA has used water boarding as a form of "enhanced interrogation" to extract information from suspected terrorists. I believe it would be more effective for them to play these movies over and over again 24/7. Battlefield Earth anyways. I can't really say that for sure about Gotti as I've not seen it as yet. And I've got no plans to see it really. That would be 100 minutes of my life I'd never get back, and often it's better to learn from the experience of others rather than having to duplicate their errors.

I really do believe that repeating Battlefield Earth over and over could work eventually, but if I'm wrong and it didn't then just repeat the song "Thank-you for Listening" over and over for a week or so and that should do the trick.
 

AnonyMary

Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
I don’t know what the heck Travolta was thinking by taking on this project to begin with! For all the years I lived in NYC and read the major daily papers, i rarely ever saw a photo of John Gotti looking the way Travolta portrays in those photos released after Cannes. Gotti was a mean man but he always kept his cool in public. Even during his trial. Known as Dapper John Gotti, he dressed like a star, smiling often, even on the way to prison.

I felt like Travolta might have gotten a case of TMJ after looking at that tight face in every photo released. Gotti was beloved by all in his of neighborhood, because he kept it safe, sponsoring sport games, had lots of block party BBQs during the summers. Yes, he was a crook, so is the son Travolta got tight with. I guess that’s where the bad advice came from, wanting to make Gotti Sr look like the biggest badass when he as a short punk who knew how to make others do the dirty work, smile for the cameras and get love from the neighborhood. His son was a young teen when a lot of Sr.’s crimes went down. I’m sure he thought dad was God. So Travolta goes and gets enamoured by Jr and makes a really bad movie. That’s what you get when you forget to recognize evil on a daily basis as a scientologist.

And Kelly Preston playing daughter Victoria? What a joke.

This was a mistake from the start. Armand Asante’s portrayal is so much more like Gotti (thanks, IL2L)

Ok, done with my rant
 
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ThetanExterior

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Travolta is probably under pressure from Miscavige to do his duty as an FSM and out-create the negative publicity from the likes of Leah Remini. When he sees that his movie is being universally panned he must know he's in for another brutal session with slappy.
 

dchoiceisalwaysrs

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Travolta is probably under pressure from Miscavige to do his duty as an FSM and out-create the negative publicity from the likes of Leah Remini. When he sees that his movie is being universally panned he must know he's in for another brutal session with slappy.
I don't think JT has enough in common with the narcissitic sociopathic predatory aggressive character disturbances of David Miscavige to hang out with DM.

If he wants to be able to do that he needs to read about pink legs and fair game, and take less head to hubbard's human rights deception tactic.

Or he could come to his senses while realizing that the Battlefield Earth and Gotti films are evidence that the closer one gets to Source and the current poop of scientology the less beautiful his religion becomes noticeable.

If he just wants admiration he would best getting it by truly being a humanitarian and honestly denouncing all the abuses the Leah and Mike are exposing on the AfterMath.
Kelly Preston: while it has been said that behind every successful man is a great woman. Maybe she too could realize her willful blindness to scientology the mental scam of turning good people into diabolic mafia like hoodlums is contributing to JT's failures and public scorn.

It is long past time for both of them to make better choices for their retirement time on the porch of eternity. Or Paradise at the Dashboard Lights.
 

dchoiceisalwaysrs

Gold Meritorious Patron
Something else I also noticed.

Something in common between John Gotti Jr and John Travolta, besides their names.

They both have had close connections to organized crime.

JT is closely connected to CoS. Doesn't that make him PTS? :unsure:
It sure does. John Travolta needs to handle or disconnect from the Cult of Scientology or very soon the Mafia will issue a declare letter on both JT and Scientology
 

triumph

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Paste Magazine

Something Suspicious Is Happening With Rotten Tomatoes User Reviews for Gotti
By Jim Vorel | June 19, 2018

t this point, the idea of a group attempting to manipulate audience scores on Rotten Tomatoes is hardly a new one. In the last year, blockbusters such as Star Wars: The Last Jedi and Black Panther have each fallen victim at time to brigading, the act of mobilizing large online crowds to simultaneously downvote a film in an effort to hurt its rating. Rotten Tomatoes even made a statement about the attempted manipulation of Black Panther’s score.

The thing is, though, that “manipulation” can go both ways. And as one savvy reddit user noticed in a post published on Tuesday morning, there seems to be some very strange stuff going on in the user ratings for the John Travolta gangster film Gotti, all of which point to some more possible manipulation at play.

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I went to take a look at the written reviews on RT and of the first 58 reviewers with an available profile, 45 had created their account in June 2018. Out of these 45, 32 have only reviewed Gotti, 10 reviewed Gotti and another movie (7 times it was American Animals for some reason) and 3 had more than 3 reviews.

Of the remaining 13 accounts, 8 looked normal and 5 had created their account in December (The Last Jedi?) so those were probably legit.

A flood of new accounts that have only reviewed one film? Nope, nothing suspicious about that.

more@link
https://www.pastemagazine.com/artic...suspicious-is-happening-with-rotten-toma.html
 

Type4_PTS

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Paste Magazine

Something Suspicious Is Happening With Rotten Tomatoes User Reviews for Gotti

Scientologists has a long history of attempting to manipulate Best Seller lists in the publishing industry, including for Battlefield Earth. I have a very strong suspicion that they're manipulating review sites for this Gotti movie as well.

I hope that Rotten Tomatoes and other review sites look into this.
 

Type4_PTS

Diamond Invictus SP
I just spent 15 minutes on Rotten Tomatoes and checked 10 or so user profiles of those giving 5 star reviews to the Gotti movie.

What Jim Vorel of Paste Magazine was alleging above seems to be spot on! The user profiles of those I checked either were just created this month or didn't seem to even exist when I attempted to locate them.


One of the audience reviewers is making a claim of manipulation on Rotten Tomatoes as well. Here's a snip of a screen shot:

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It isn't necessarily Scientologists involved with the manipulation as it could be others involved with the production and/or marketing of the movie. But I wouldn't be surprised if Scientologists contributed to this given their history.
 
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HelluvaHoax!

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The people behind Gotti are trying to protect their asset with major "positive review" trolling on ROTTEN TOMATOES.


They are simultaneously claiming that "Trolls" are responsible for the bad reviews, even going to the trouble of creating a first-ever promotional trailer that attacks the critics who gave it a "ZERO" on Rotten Tomatoes. Here's the link and the video that is trying to get audiences into theater seats:


There is really suspicious and weird circumstantial proof of scamming---wherein suddenly out of nowhere, thousands of new people spontaneously opened up Rotten Tomato accounts THIS MONTH, just to review Gotti. Check it out. . .

UPDATE: June 19, 2018, 2:46 p.m. EDT
Rotten Tomatoes told Mashable in an email that all of the reviews for Gotti are made by real users. This likely only implies that they weren't posted by bots, not that they're actually legitimate reviews.

Critics hated Gotti and according to box office numbers, the movie was barely seen by anybody in its opening weekend.
Yet it's received quite a lot of five-star Rotten Tomatoes reviews in the past couple days from non-critic users. Perhaps a few too many five-star reviews.

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This is suspicious, to say the least, and may suggest that the marketing team behind Gotti is manipulating the movie's audience score on Rotten Tomatoes with fake accounts showering Gotti with undeserved praise.
SEE ALSO: 'Gotti' has a 0% on Rotten Tomatoes and the reviews are priceless

Dan Murrell of Screen Junkies pointed out Monday that Gotti's Rotten Tomatoes audience score was suspect, comparing it to reviews of other recent movies on the site.

Despite only opening in roughly 500 theaters, Gotti has received more than 6,900 audience reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, while Incredibles 2, which opened in about 4,400 theaters (and made about 180 times more money), has received just over 7,600. Those numbers don't really add up.

A pattern begins to form after a closer look at who is reviewing Gotti so well. The majority of users who scored the movie a full five stars created their accounts in June and only reviewed Gotti and maybe one other movie. Interestingly, a whole bunch of accounts that gave Gotti five stars are private.
 

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I just saw a new wonderfully positive review for GOTTI on Rotten Tomatoes:


Originally Posted by Gotti-Fan

Wow, I was blown away by GOTTI! I had unprecedented pleasure, and more movie gain that
all of the other movies I ever saw combined!

When I left the theater my space felt calm and I realized that Travolta had turned in an Oscar-winning performance, way better than Brando in The Godfather. In all fairness Brando could have probably done better but I heard in a briefing recently that he was doing psych drugs at that time which hold a spiritual being back from success.

Travolta and his wife, on the other hand, are against Psychs and often gives out free autographed "PSYCHIATRY KILLS" t-shirts.

I loved the movie so much and still am having wins about how John Gotti Sr. kept his integrity in by never compromising and ratting out his comrades. I think Travolta showed us the humanitarian side of Italian people and proved that they are not all evil killers and mafia thugs. John, as an Italian American, has done a lot of humanitarian work against religious bigotry and evil on this planet, and anyone who would attack him is obviously a sociopathic psychotic.

I want to go on record here that I am not a Scientologist trying to boost John's box-office bomb. I am a wog who just happened to love the movie and also a person who wants to help John create a world without criminality!

ML,

WB

ps: No I am not Billy Blowdown, because then my initial would have been "BB"

pps: It's only a coincidence that Bily Blowdown's real first name is William ("WB").

ppps: I don't even know who Billy Blowdown is, what are you trying to say, I'm some kind of Scientologist, you anti-religious-hater bigot!!!
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Type4_PTS

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I just saw a new wonderfully positive review for GOTTI on Rotten Tomatoes:
The manipulation of the audience review score at RT is also being noticed over at SlashFilm.com and Reddit
https://www.slashfilm.com/gotti-rotten-tomatoes-user-reviews/
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/8s7dle/gottis_user_reviews_on_rotten_tomatoes_were/

There was something particularly interesting about so many of these new audience reviewers joining this month and either just reviewing Gotti or Gotti and one other movie which happened to be American Animals.

Excerpted from SlashFilm.com:

[bcolor=#ffff99]The American Animals connection is interesting, since both Gotti and American Animals were co-acquired by MoviePass Ventures in the company’s first foray into movie distribution. Some suspicion arose that MoviePass may have inflated the box office sales for Gotti by buying a large portion of the tickets, so it wouldn’t be surprising that the ticket-buying service inflated the audience scores as well. Then there’s also John Travolta’s affiliation with Scientology, which has had more than a few shady dealings in the past.[/bcolor]

[bcolor=#ffff99]But if it were all part of some grand conspiracy, it’s not a very good one. After browsing through some of the reviews myself, it’s hilariously clear that many of these fake accounts didn’t even bother hiding that they’re bots (one user writes, “Best movie. Ever being born into the mob I have to agree”). Which is why it’s troubling that Rotten Tomatoes doesn’t have better safeguards against this.[/bcolor]
 

Enthetan

Master of Disaster
The reason for his dedication? Travola believed his performance as the late John Gotti, one of the most famous mafia bosses in history, would make him a player in the next awards race, according to several insiders who have been closely involved with the biopic.
The reason why he wanted the movie: he thought it would give him more status, rather than being excited by the story, and the potential of putting out something which people would enjoy seeing. An important distinction.
 
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