U. S. Department of Defense studying Church of Scientology Purification Rundown

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U. S. Department of Defense studying Church of Scientology Purification Rundown

First: EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, MANDATORY, MUST READ WWP THREAD ON THIS ISSUE GIVING ALL NECESSARY DETAILS AND BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

Today's leak from Mike Rinder:

Johnny Spag Hypes It Up
http://www.mikerindersblog.org/johnny-spag-hypes-it-up/

Leaked e-mails from Johnny Spag:
Dear Friends,

The Purification Detoxification Program just got a full okay from the US Army to move ahead and do an official medical pilot by applying this technology to Veterans!

And it is funded by the US Army!!!

I’m working on the Veterans purification detox project below and wanted to know if you were aware of any veterans who still had adverse effects that they would like to address and handle.

The project will focus on veterans from 1990-1991 during Desert Storm and Desert Shield. However, if you know of veterans from other wars, let me know, so they can be considered. The project will be run in Annapolis Maryland.

Even if you are not located in Maryland, veterans you may know might consider coming for the program and staying to complete it, as it is free to them; and more importantly, because it could alleviate both mental and physical manifestations that they have not been able to resolve.

This is an excellent opportunity to help these warrior heroes get their lives back!!

Although the program is funded by the Army, there are many thousands of dollars that are needed for other expenses for the veterans such as travel. and related expenses. If you are willing to help with these expenses, this would be greatly appreciated and it would be a power push to this valuable project!

Please let me know.
Johnny Spag
727-446-0200
Then a correction:
From: John Spagnola <[email protected]>

Date: Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 1:35 PM
Subject: Re Detoxification Study
To:

Dear Friends:

The email that I sent you yesterday contained some errors, due to misunderstanding on my part.

The Army has not “OK’d” the detoxification program. A totally independent study has been funded by the Department of Defense, under the direction of three Universities.

The goal is to evaluate how detoxification might benefit Gulf War veterans. No one in the military has already concluded anything about the program, only that it is worthy of study.

The work being done is under the direction of the University researchers. I have no official connection with it - I’m just a private citizen who cares about our veterans. Recruitment for the study is under the direction of the
researchers.

Please delete the email I sent and do not forward it. If you have already forwarded it, please forward this second message to them so they have the correct information.

Best,

Johnny Spag
727-446-0200
Then a correction of the correction:
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 LD Sledge wrote:
Yes, he is, but we just talked after I sent my first one out and said that he is not supposed to ask for donos! And he is not to call it the Purif! Just some bureaucratic BS, but we do have 50 on a pilot.


On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 xxxxx wrote:
HI LD, thanks for this second email about the military and the Purif that Jon Spagnola was promoting. Is Johnny still asking for donations for that?

On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 Ld Sledge wrote:
This note is to clarify the previous email sent by Johnny Spag. My note indicated there were 70,000 but this is a pilot with 50 men and women.


EDITED TO ADD FROM ABOVE WWP LINK IN CASE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GO TO WWP:

From the link:

Hi guise. I found a few interesting things while researching Canadian Scientology-affilated doctors. It looks to me like the US Department of Defence is funding research into Scientology-based detox. Comments? Can anyone confirm this?


Overview of the Congressionally Directed Medical Research Program (CDMRP) and the Gulf War Illness Research Program (GWTRP)
http://www.va.gov/RAC-GWVI/docs/Minutes_and_Agendas/Minutes_Feb2011_AppendixA_Presentation02.pdf

(scroll down to page 5, slide 10)

GWIRP Clinical Trials: Evaluation of an innovative detoxification treatment program using the Hubbard Regimen as a means of rehabilitative therapy.



Similar dox mentions a Dr. David Carpenter. Is he a Scientologist?
http://www.va.gov/RAC-GWVI/docs/Minutes_and_Agendas/Minutes_June2010_AppendixA_Presentation9.pdf

(scroll down to page 10, slide 20)


Dr. David Carpenter:
http://www.xenu-directory.net/news/library.php?t=David Carpenter

http://web.archive.org/web/20071024144711/http:/www.philly.com/inquirer/health_science/daily/20071007_Clinics_results_make_9_11_responders_believe.html

Also, Dr. David E. Root. I believe he is a known cult apologist and possible Scientologist. He apparently made a presentation to the Presidential Special Oversight Board for Department of Defense Investigations of Gulf War Chemical & Biological Incidents on November 20, 1998.


(Scilon website) http://www.detoxacademy.org/pdfs/testimony.pdf

The challenge for the occupational physician is to provide relief to the injured worker, to
rehabilitate him and return him to work. Since 1982, I have been using a detoxification
program to treat patients who have been exposed to fat-soluble chemicals, either at work or
from environmental sources.

This program, developed by L. Ron Hubbard in 1978, has over the last 15 years been
evaluated and used by a growing number of professionals throughout the world who have
examined its use in relieving the after effects of chemical exposure and found it to be very
effective.



Can anyone verify this presentation was given, using non-Scilon sources?

http://cdmrp.army.mil/search.aspx and plug "Hubbard" and "Detoxification" into the Abstract Keywords boxes at the bottom of the form.
Gulf War Illness: Evaluation of an Innovative Detoxification Program

Principal Investigator:CARPENTER, DAVID O
Institution Receiving Award:NEW YORK, STATE UNIVERSITY OF, ALBANY
Program:GWIRP
Proposal Number:GW093066
Funding Mechanism:Innovative Treatment Evaluation Award
Partnering Awards:
Award Amount:$633,677.00
View Public Abstract

TECHNICAL ABSTRACT

Background: The 2008 report from the Research Advisory Committee on Gulf War Veterans' Illnesses noted that "evidence strongly and consistently indicates" that exposure to pesticides and pyridostigmine bromide pills are causally associated with Gulf War illness, adding that low-level exposure to nerve agents, close proximity to oil well fires, receipt of multiple vaccines, and effects of combinations of Gulf War exposures could not be ruled out as causes. Few treatment protocols address symptoms associated with toxic body burden or low-level exposures. The regimen developed by Hubbard has been implemented to aid individuals affected by other large-scale environmental exposure events, including the 1973 Michigan polybrominated biphenyl (PBB) incident and the 1986 Chernobyl incident. Nearly 1,000 World Trade Center rescue workers have completed the program, with improvements in quality of life and job fitness. Published reports and case histories of Gulf War veterans, as well as those of individuals diagnosed with multi-symptom illnesses following toxic exposure, offer evidence that the regimen is safe and can increase physical and mental health.
Objective/Hypothesis: The hypothesis being tested is that Gulf War veterans may safely undergo and benefit substantially from a rehabilitative therapy including nutritional supplements, exercise, and sauna. The objective is to investigate the potential for this regimen to reduce symptoms and improve functional status in this population and convert Gulf War Illness cases to non-cases, based on the Kansas definition.

Specific Aims: To evaluate the impact of the Hubbard detoxification program on physical symptoms, Gulf War illness case status, general physical and mental health status, and quality of life among 50 veterans with multi-symptom Gulf War illness.

Study Design: A randomized controlled trial of changes in fatigue and pain symptoms, measured quality of life, mental health status, and neuro-cognitive functioning of a group of Gulf War veterans after a 4- to 6-week sauna detoxification regimen compared to test scores of a group of Gulf War veterans receiving usual care who are randomly assigned to a waitlist, and who will start the intervention after a 4- to 6-week delay. Symptoms will be measured with the Kansas Gulf War Veterans Health Project Questionnaire, the Multidimensional Fatigue Inventory, and the short-form McGill Pain Questionnaire. Quality of life will be assessed with the Veterans Short Form (SF36-V), which includes physical (PCS) and mental (MCS) component summary scores. Neuro-cognitive tests of visual motor, memory, and executive function will include the Trailmaking test, Grooved Pegboard, Wechsler Memory Abbreviated test, and the Stroop color word test. To assess mental health status, the Symptom Checklist 90 revised and the State Trait Anxiety Inventory will be used. Medical evaluation and laboratory assessments (CBC [complete blood count], lipid, thyroid, and metabolic panels) will also be made.

Impact: A demonstration via the proposed pilot trial that persistent Gulf War deployment-related symptoms can be significantly reduced and that affected veterans can regain a more normal quality of life would support future large-scale clinical trials. Findings from such trials could inform efforts to cost-effectively and safely improve the health of Gulf War veterans.
PUBLIC ABSTRACT





Close to 700,000 U.S. military personnel served in the 1990-1991 Gulf War. Within about 2 years, approximately one in four developed persistent health effects now referred to as Gulf War illness; few have since improved or recovered. A 2008 report from the Research Advisory Committee on Gulf War Veterans' Illnesses noted that "evidence strongly and consistently indicates" that exposure to pesticides and pyridostigmine bromide (PB) pills are causally associated with Gulf War illness, adding that low-level exposure to nerve agents, close proximity to oil well fires, receipt of multiple vaccines, and effects of combinations of Gulf War exposures could not be ruled out as causes of Gulf War illness.

Modern medicine has few tools to address symptoms associated with low-level exposures to toxic chemicals. A regimen developed by Hubbard utilizes elements including exercise, low heat sauna, and vitamin and mineral supplements to supplementation to repair and rebuild the body and to encourage the release of stored toxins through sweat and increased metabolism. The program is delivered on a 7-day per week schedule; on average, completion is attained within 33 days.

In the decades following its development, this therapy has been implemented to address exposure-related symptoms in a variety of populations, including street drug users and addicts; Michigan residents exposed to fire retardant accidentally sold as cattle feed; electrical workers; firefighters, residents, and workers affected by the Chernobyl disaster; and police exposed to chemicals during raids on illicit drug labs. Nearly 1,000 World Trade Center rescue workers have completed the program, with improvements in quality of life and job fitness. Published reports and clinical experience in thousands of cases have established the safety of the program.

Case histories of Gulf War veterans who have completed this program were presented at a 1999 Gulf War research conference organized by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the final report from the conference recommended that a treatment trial be conducted to further examine its benefits. To date, no such trial has been undertaken. The proposed research would respond to this recommendation. Its objective is to investigate the ability of this therapy to reduce symptoms and improve functional status in Persian Gulf War veterans with chronic health problems.

Improvements in fatigue and pain symptoms, quality of life, mental health, and thinking and reasoning abilities in a group of Gulf War veterans who have completed the regimen will be compared to those observed in a control group of Gulf War veterans receiving usual care who are randomly assigned to a waitlist. The control group will then undergo the program after a 4- to 6-week delay. In all, 50 veterans will participate.

A demonstration via the proposed pilot trial that persistent Gulf War symptoms can be significantly reduced and that affected veterans can regain a more normal quality of life would support future large-scale clinical trials. The data collected have the potential to enable the Department of Veterans Affairs, Department of Defense, and private practitioners to establish facilities around the country where this rehabilitative therapy can be provided in a cost-effective manner.


The grant was to the State University of New York, Albany (post 3 ITT)


Pre-grant investigation: (source:http://cdmrp.army.mil/pubs/pips/gwirppip.pdf page 2)

Under the auspices of the U.S. Army Medical Research and Materiel Command (USAMRMC), the CDMRP manages these programs from receipt of funds, competitive selection of proposals, through individual project performance, to closeout.

The CDMRP program management cycle includes a two-tier review process for proposal evaluation recommended by the National Academy of Science’s Institute of Medicine. The first tier of evaluation is an external scientific peer review of proposals against established criteria for determining scientific merit. The second tier is a programmatic review conducted by a CDMRP-convened Integration Panel (IP) composed of program- specific researchers, clinicians, and consum- ers who evaluate proposals on innovation, potential impact, programmatic priorities, and mechanism-specific criteria. The Commanding General of USAMRMC issues the final approval for funding prior to award negotiations and execution.



More info on two-tier review in CDMRP is here: http://cdmrp.army.mil/about/2tierRevProcess_text.shtml

2009 Peer Review Participants here: (grant in question was 2009) http://cdmrp.army.mil/gwirp/reviewers/gwirp09reviewers.pdf

Study is now listed in clinical trials :



http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01672710?term=hubbard&rank=1



And already, scilons are trying to milk it for donations to "help veterans"
rolleyes.png
:


http://www.mikerindersblog.org/johnny-spag-hypes-it-up/



Study was registered in august 2012, supposed to start about now, if they can actually recruit participants.


This is worrying. Having an open clinical trial often helps quacks extort money from unsuspecting victims. The awful cancer quack Burzynski has been doing this for over 35 years, keeping his clinical trials (over 60 of them) open at the FDA as a way to rope in desperate patients.
 
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Udarnik

Gold Meritorious Patron
Dear Johnny-boy,

DOX or STFU. The DoD fully funds its studies and does not need donos.

ML,

Udarnik, former DoD contractor.

P.S. DOX includes the specific study protocol to ensure we're really talking about the Purif and not some general detox you're claiming to be the Purif. Fuckwit.
 

CommunicatorIC

@IndieScieNews on Twitter
Dear Johnny-boy,

DOX or STFU. The DoD fully funds its studies and does not need donos.

ML,

Udarnik, former DoD contractor.

P.S. DOX includes the specific study protocol to ensure we're really talking about the Purif and not some general detox you're claiming to be the Purif. Fuckwit.
Ummmm.....
From the link:

Hi guise. I found a few interesting things while researching Canadian Scientology-affilated doctors. It looks to me like the US Department of Defence is funding research into Scientology-based detox. Comments? Can anyone confirm this?


Overview of the Congressionally Directed Medical Research Program (CDMRP) and the Gulf War Illness Research Program (GWTRP)
http://www.va.gov/RAC-GWVI/docs/Minutes_and_Agendas/Minutes_Feb2011_AppendixA_Presentation02.pdf

(scroll down to page 5, slide 10)

GWIRP Clinical Trials: Evaluation of an innovative detoxification treatment program using the Hubbard Regimen as a means of rehabilitative therapy.



Similar dox mentions a Dr. David Carpenter. Is he a Scientologist?
http://www.va.gov/RAC-GWVI/docs/Minutes_and_Agendas/Minutes_June2010_AppendixA_Presentation9.pdf

(scroll down to page 10, slide 20)


Dr. David Carpenter:
http://www.xenu-directory.net/news/library.php?t=David Carpenter

http://web.archive.org/web/20071024144711/http:/www.philly.com/inquirer/health_science/daily/20071007_Clinics_results_make_9_11_responders_believe.html

Also, Dr. David E. Root. I believe he is a known cult apologist and possible Scientologist. He apparently made a presentation to the Presidential Special Oversight Board for Department of Defense Investigations of Gulf War Chemical & Biological Incidents on November 20, 1998.


(Scilon website) http://www.detoxacademy.org/pdfs/testimony.pdf

The challenge for the occupational physician is to provide relief to the injured worker, to
rehabilitate him and return him to work. Since 1982, I have been using a detoxification
program to treat patients who have been exposed to fat-soluble chemicals, either at work or
from environmental sources.

This program, developed by L. Ron Hubbard in 1978, has over the last 15 years been
evaluated and used by a growing number of professionals throughout the world who have
examined its use in relieving the after effects of chemical exposure and found it to be very
effective.



Can anyone verify this presentation was given, using non-Scilon sources?

http://cdmrp.army.mil/search.aspx and plug "Hubbard" and "Detoxification" into the Abstract Keywords boxes at the bottom of the form.
Gulf War Illness: Evaluation of an Innovative Detoxification Program

Principal Investigator:CARPENTER, DAVID O
Institution Receiving Award:NEW YORK, STATE UNIVERSITY OF, ALBANY
Program:GWIRP
Proposal Number:GW093066
Funding Mechanism:Innovative Treatment Evaluation Award
Partnering Awards:
Award Amount:$633,677.00
View Public Abstract

TECHNICAL ABSTRACT

Background: The 2008 report from the Research Advisory Committee on Gulf War Veterans' Illnesses noted that "evidence strongly and consistently indicates" that exposure to pesticides and pyridostigmine bromide pills are causally associated with Gulf War illness, adding that low-level exposure to nerve agents, close proximity to oil well fires, receipt of multiple vaccines, and effects of combinations of Gulf War exposures could not be ruled out as causes. Few treatment protocols address symptoms associated with toxic body burden or low-level exposures. The regimen developed by Hubbard has been implemented to aid individuals affected by other large-scale environmental exposure events, including the 1973 Michigan polybrominated biphenyl (PBB) incident and the 1986 Chernobyl incident. Nearly 1,000 World Trade Center rescue workers have completed the program, with improvements in quality of life and job fitness. Published reports and case histories of Gulf War veterans, as well as those of individuals diagnosed with multi-symptom illnesses following toxic exposure, offer evidence that the regimen is safe and can increase physical and mental health.
Objective/Hypothesis: The hypothesis being tested is that Gulf War veterans may safely undergo and benefit substantially from a rehabilitative therapy including nutritional supplements, exercise, and sauna. The objective is to investigate the potential for this regimen to reduce symptoms and improve functional status in this population and convert Gulf War Illness cases to non-cases, based on the Kansas definition.

Specific Aims: To evaluate the impact of the Hubbard detoxification program on physical symptoms, Gulf War illness case status, general physical and mental health status, and quality of life among 50 veterans with multi-symptom Gulf War illness.

Study Design: A randomized controlled trial of changes in fatigue and pain symptoms, measured quality of life, mental health status, and neuro-cognitive functioning of a group of Gulf War veterans after a 4- to 6-week sauna detoxification regimen compared to test scores of a group of Gulf War veterans receiving usual care who are randomly assigned to a waitlist, and who will start the intervention after a 4- to 6-week delay. Symptoms will be measured with the Kansas Gulf War Veterans Health Project Questionnaire, the Multidimensional Fatigue Inventory, and the short-form McGill Pain Questionnaire. Quality of life will be assessed with the Veterans Short Form (SF36-V), which includes physical (PCS) and mental (MCS) component summary scores. Neuro-cognitive tests of visual motor, memory, and executive function will include the Trailmaking test, Grooved Pegboard, Wechsler Memory Abbreviated test, and the Stroop color word test. To assess mental health status, the Symptom Checklist 90 revised and the State Trait Anxiety Inventory will be used. Medical evaluation and laboratory assessments (CBC [complete blood count], lipid, thyroid, and metabolic panels) will also be made.

Impact: A demonstration via the proposed pilot trial that persistent Gulf War deployment-related symptoms can be significantly reduced and that affected veterans can regain a more normal quality of life would support future large-scale clinical trials. Findings from such trials could inform efforts to cost-effectively and safely improve the health of Gulf War veterans.
PUBLIC ABSTRACT





Close to 700,000 U.S. military personnel served in the 1990-1991 Gulf War. Within about 2 years, approximately one in four developed persistent health effects now referred to as Gulf War illness; few have since improved or recovered. A 2008 report from the Research Advisory Committee on Gulf War Veterans' Illnesses noted that "evidence strongly and consistently indicates" that exposure to pesticides and pyridostigmine bromide (PB) pills are causally associated with Gulf War illness, adding that low-level exposure to nerve agents, close proximity to oil well fires, receipt of multiple vaccines, and effects of combinations of Gulf War exposures could not be ruled out as causes of Gulf War illness.

Modern medicine has few tools to address symptoms associated with low-level exposures to toxic chemicals. A regimen developed by Hubbard utilizes elements including exercise, low heat sauna, and vitamin and mineral supplements to supplementation to repair and rebuild the body and to encourage the release of stored toxins through sweat and increased metabolism. The program is delivered on a 7-day per week schedule; on average, completion is attained within 33 days.

In the decades following its development, this therapy has been implemented to address exposure-related symptoms in a variety of populations, including street drug users and addicts; Michigan residents exposed to fire retardant accidentally sold as cattle feed; electrical workers; firefighters, residents, and workers affected by the Chernobyl disaster; and police exposed to chemicals during raids on illicit drug labs. Nearly 1,000 World Trade Center rescue workers have completed the program, with improvements in quality of life and job fitness. Published reports and clinical experience in thousands of cases have established the safety of the program.

Case histories of Gulf War veterans who have completed this program were presented at a 1999 Gulf War research conference organized by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the final report from the conference recommended that a treatment trial be conducted to further examine its benefits. To date, no such trial has been undertaken. The proposed research would respond to this recommendation. Its objective is to investigate the ability of this therapy to reduce symptoms and improve functional status in Persian Gulf War veterans with chronic health problems.

Improvements in fatigue and pain symptoms, quality of life, mental health, and thinking and reasoning abilities in a group of Gulf War veterans who have completed the regimen will be compared to those observed in a control group of Gulf War veterans receiving usual care who are randomly assigned to a waitlist. The control group will then undergo the program after a 4- to 6-week delay. In all, 50 veterans will participate.

A demonstration via the proposed pilot trial that persistent Gulf War symptoms can be significantly reduced and that affected veterans can regain a more normal quality of life would support future large-scale clinical trials. The data collected have the potential to enable the Department of Veterans Affairs, Department of Defense, and private practitioners to establish facilities around the country where this rehabilitative therapy can be provided in a cost-effective manner.


The grant was to the State University of New York, Albany (post 3 ITT)


Pre-grant investigation: (source:http://cdmrp.army.mil/pubs/pips/gwirppip.pdf page 2)

Under the auspices of the U.S. Army Medical Research and Materiel Command (USAMRMC), the CDMRP manages these programs from receipt of funds, competitive selection of proposals, through individual project performance, to closeout.

The CDMRP program management cycle includes a two-tier review process for proposal evaluation recommended by the National Academy of Science’s Institute of Medicine. The first tier of evaluation is an external scientific peer review of proposals against established criteria for determining scientific merit. The second tier is a programmatic review conducted by a CDMRP-convened Integration Panel (IP) composed of program- specific researchers, clinicians, and consum- ers who evaluate proposals on innovation, potential impact, programmatic priorities, and mechanism-specific criteria. The Commanding General of USAMRMC issues the final approval for funding prior to award negotiations and execution.



More info on two-tier review in CDMRP is here: http://cdmrp.army.mil/about/2tierRevProcess_text.shtml

2009 Peer Review Participants here: (grant in question was 2009) http://cdmrp.army.mil/gwirp/reviewers/gwirp09reviewers.pdf

Study is now listed in clinical trials :



http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01672710?term=hubbard&rank=1



And already, scilons are trying to milk it for donations to "help veterans"
rolleyes.png
:


http://www.mikerindersblog.org/johnny-spag-hypes-it-up/



Study was registered in august 2012, supposed to start about now, if they can actually recruit participants.


This is worrying. Having an open clinical trial often helps quacks extort money from unsuspecting victims. The awful cancer quack Burzynski has been doing this for over 35 years, keeping his clinical trials (over 60 of them) open at the FDA as a way to rope in desperate patients.
 

Udarnik

Gold Meritorious Patron
Yeah, didn't finish the thread on WWP before I posted. This is a real trial (the only acceptable evidence is clinicaltrials.gov):

ArmsAssigned Interventions
Experimental: Hubbard detoxification programDaily mild-moderate exercise for 20 minutes, intermittent Finnish saunas at 140'F for approximately 4 hours, dietary supplements including immediate release niacin in gradually increasing doses perHubbard protocol.
Other: Hubbard detoxification programA four to six week regimen consisting of daily, supervised, mild-moderate exercise as tolerated for 20 minutes, supervised, intermittent Finnish saunas (at about 140'F) sauna time with breaks and showers, gradually increased as tolerated to approximately 4 hours, dietary supplements including immediate release niacin in gradually increasing doses from 100 mg to a maximum of 5000 mg per day, salt and water, other vitamins, minerals and oils per Hubbard protocol.

Holy shit I don't know how this got through the Institutional Review Board.

It is fully funded by the DoD, which really pisses me off on two levels. First, that Johnny-boy has the gall to ask for donations, and second that some shithead at the DoD was asleep at the wheel enough to give the go-ahead.

I know people at Albany. A lot of people. The IRB / ethics committee is going to hear about this.
 

CommunicatorIC

@IndieScieNews on Twitter
Dear Johnny-boy,

DOX or STFU. The DoD fully funds its studies and does not need donos.
The Scientologist recognized this in the third leaked e-mail quoted above:
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 LD Sledge wrote:

Yes, he is, but we just talked after I sent my first one out and said that he is not supposed to ask for donos! And he is not to call it the Purif! Just some bureaucratic BS, but we do have 50 on a pilot.
 

Udarnik

Gold Meritorious Patron
The Scientologist recognized this in the third leaked e-mail quoted above:

I wonder if they realized this on their own or the lead researcher saw it and had a fit. He could lose his funding over that. And his ability to gain future funding.

I've got to do some digging on this idiot.
 

AnonKat

Crusader
Dear Johnny-boy,

DOX or STFU. The DoD fully funds its studies and does not need donos.

ML,

Udarnik, former DoD contractor.

P.S. DOX includes the specific study protocol to ensure we're really talking about the Purif and not some general detox you're claiming to be the Purif. Fuckwit.

Are you that bunny on Tony's blog ?
 

Teanntás

Silver Meritorious Patron
Is this him?

David Carpenter in Scientology's Published Service Completion Lists

The following 2 individual completions for David Carpenter appear in official Scientology publications:

David Carpenter PERSONAL EFFICIENCY COURSE Celebrity 317 1999-02-01
David Carpenter PERSONAL EFFICIENCY COURSE Celebrity 319 1999-06-01
Note: The dates listed above are the approximate publication dates of the magazines, which may be weeks or months later than the actual date the service was completed.

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/d/david-carpenter.html

And here

"David Carpenter, director of the Institute for Health and the Environment at the University at Albany, is currently conducting research under a grant from the US Department of Defense to see if the “rundown” treatment is effective in reducing the symptoms of Gulf War Illness, a disease found in American veterans of the 1990-1991 Gulf War.

But “we have encountered a lot of opposition to our study here, which is one reason it has not started yet,” Carpenter said.

“I am very aware of the many criticisms of the Church of Scientology, which isn’t really a religion at all.”

http://talkvietnam.com/2013/04/scientology-in-vietnam-open-welcome-or-backdoor-entry/.Uu3cAj1h8xE

And here

"Indeed, one of the experts FASE approached is David Carpenter, a research physician whose professional focus is the effect of environmental contamination on human health.

After FASE contacted him, he twice applied for grants from the National Institutes of Health to evaluate the detox regimen, but was turned down both times. He is committed to trying again.

A professor of environmental health and toxicology, Carpenter is director of the Institute for Health and the Environment at the State University of New York at Albany.

"I'm convinced the program has beneficial effects," he says. "The question from my perspective is: Are they mainly psychological, or is it really ridding the body of nasty chemicals?"

Medical science has yet to discover a way of removing contaminants from the body, especially fat-soluble contaminants stored in fatty tissue, Carpenter says.

"But before we get too excited, it must be demonstrated that it clearly does work through an objective, totally independent, rigorous analysis."

http://web.archive.org/web/20071024...ics_results_make_9_11_responders_believe.html
 

shadow

Patron with Honors
I will bet the trip through IRB approval was difficult considering it has taken 2 years to start recruiting. I found the annual report to the DOD for year 1 but could not find year 2 (which would be more interesting, as will the later reports with some actual data :eyeroll:).

Annual report for 27 September 2011 - 26 September 2012
"Progress to Date:
The study has not yet begun but progress is being made is surmounting several serious road blocks. The protocol and informed consent have just been approved by the Chesapeake IRB following extensive revision based on comments by DOD staff, and concurrence has been obtained from the IRBs of the three universities involved (the University at Albany, the University of Toronto and Sage Colleges). We have hired a Project Coordinator, and have developed all necessary recruitment materials, which have been approved by the Chesapeake IRB. The last of the modifications of our protocol, informed consent form and recruitment materials were forwarded to the DOD officials two weeks ago for their final review. In spite of significant delay we have not spent hardly any of the funds allocated to the study, and hope to request a no-cost extension to perform the study as originally proposed. In spite of these delays, there have been no changes to the original Statement of Work.
Key Research Accomplishments: Because of the delays in beginning the project we have no accomplishments to report.
Reportable Outcomes: None at the present time.
Conclusion: We have finally overcome several obstacles and are now ready to begin this study, pending only final DOD review and approval."

I just searched with the DOD grant award number W81XWH-10-1-1004.
 

Udarnik

Gold Meritorious Patron
I will bet the trip through IRB approval was difficult considering it has taken 2 years to start recruiting. I found the annual report to the DOD for year 1 but could not find year 2 (which would be more interesting, as will the later reports with some actual data :eyeroll:).

Annual report for 27 September 2011 - 26 September 2012
"Progress to Date:
The study has not yet begun but progress is being made is surmounting several serious road blocks. The protocol and informed consent have just been approved by the Chesapeake IRB following extensive revision based on comments by DOD staff, and concurrence has been obtained from the IRBs of the three universities involved (the University at Albany, the University of Toronto and Sage Colleges). We have hired a Project Coordinator, and have developed all necessary recruitment materials, which have been approved by the Chesapeake IRB. The last of the modifications of our protocol, informed consent form and recruitment materials were forwarded to the DOD officials two weeks ago for their final review. In spite of significant delay we have not spent hardly any of the funds allocated to the study, and hope to request a no-cost extension to perform the study as originally proposed. In spite of these delays, there have been no changes to the original Statement of Work.
Key Research Accomplishments: Because of the delays in beginning the project we have no accomplishments to report.
Reportable Outcomes: None at the present time.
Conclusion: We have finally overcome several obstacles and are now ready to begin this study, pending only final DOD review and approval."

I just searched with the DOD grant award number W81XWH-10-1-1004.

They had to go through the Chesapeake IRB because the study is being conducted in Maryland.
 

shadow

Patron with Honors
They had to go through the Chesapeake IRB because the study is being conducted in Maryland.

Not sure what the above comment is addressing. I may be missing something.....:confused2:

I was just noting the Sep 2012 annual report to the DOD (normal reporting for grants) which stated that after several road blocks and extensive protocol/consent revision, they finally had Chesapeake IRB (an independent IRB) approval and the concurrence of the IRBs from the three universities involved (the University at Albany, the University of Toronto and Sage Colleges). Since this took them to the end of the first year of the grant, that must have been quite a ride. I have never had a protocol take that kind of time with multiple study sites, so can only imagine what took so long.

At the end of the first year, they still needed to get final review by the DOD, which must have taken another year (maybe due to sequester? or due to the requested no cost extension mentioned in the report? or because the DOD still had issues with the protocol?>>who knows) because as of Sep 2013, they were 2 years into the grant, and the Clinicaltrials.gov site was updated in Jan 2014 to change the status to "recruiting" and change the start date to Jan 2014.

The change history is available for all changes made to the clinicaltrials.gov site is helpful to glen some info, but the annual reports they have to submit to the DOD for the grant progress and eventually the clinical study data and report will be the most interesting.
 

Helena Handbasket

Gold Meritorious Patron
I hope the pilot study does go through. After all, wasn't it developed by a former DOD employee?

One way or the other, it will establish whether or not the purif has any value.

If it does, it's greatest value is probably in removing absorbed poisons from the body.

Helena
 

Free Being Me

Crusader
I hope the pilot study does go through. After all, wasn't it developed by a former DOD employee?

One way or the other, it will establish whether or not the purif has any value.

If it does, it's greatest value is probably in removing absorbed poisons from the body.

Helena

Is there anything that removes hubbard from the brain, something like The Brain Bleach Rundown ... lol.
 

secretiveoldfag

Silver Meritorious Patron
How much is the alleged religion being paid for the use of its tech in this review?

How much are the volunteer victims being paid to put their lives at risk?

Just when you think things might be getting a tad more rational... :omg:
 

Sidney18511

Patron with Honors
This article contains the background information of how a Scientology front group, FASE, was involved in the Manhattan 9/11 TC detox program and approached one of the doctors who is now running the trial.

http://articles.philly.com/2007-10-07/news/25233591_1_dirty-work-scientology-detox


In the 1980s, Bruce Roe, a professor of biochemistry at the University of Oklahoma, was asked to examine the rationale behind Narconon, a Scientology-linked drug-rehabilitation program that employs a similar detox protocol. After studying a stack of published material, Roe called the method "pure unadulterated cow pies."


It's "a scam," he said, based on "half-truths and pseudo-science" and "as medically valid as using copper bracelets to cure arthritis."


Keith Miller, president of FASE, the Los Angeles nonprofit that supports the Manhattan clinic, says his organization has long sought a partnership with other institutions to produce "an independent, university-based research study" of the detox program.


Indeed, one of the experts FASE approached is David Carpenter, a research physician whose professional focus is the effect of environmental contamination on human health.


After FASE contacted him, he twice applied for grants from the National Institutes of Health to evaluate the detox regimen, but was turned down both times. He is committed to trying again.


A professor of environmental health and toxicology, Carpenter is director of the Institute for Health and the Environment at the State University of New York at Albany.


"I'm convinced the program has beneficial effects," he says. "The question from my perspective is: Are they mainly psychological, or is it really ridding the body of nasty chemicals?"
 

dchoiceisalwaysrs

Gold Meritorious Patron
Kitty Kerr and Paul Jaconello MD were of Toronto operating out of the same office not too far from the CofS on Yonge street. Guaranteed both Scientologist in the 80's. I believe when I knew them Kitty was not an MD (yet) but that is a little vague in my memory.

I mention this because I saw on the WWP thread she was discussed a bit. Is she still on the study panel? Maybe that is one contributing factor as to why the Universities were having serious trouble getting the study started??

Also I see the commercial business SPHWC that the study will be conducted in has been delivering this detox program (per the government posted document) it makes me wonder if it is staffed or run or owned by scientologists. (Bias and manipulation potential is my concern here)

I have never designed such a study but I don't see adequate testing or controls or evaluation of Niacin (the claimed Key to the detox program itself).

If this study is going forward is the liver being adequately monitored? (as I have heard that there is risk to it from such high doses of Niacin)
 
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