Err, umm, not allowed to engage in, what's that wording again? " . . . no substantial part of the activity of the College shall be designed to influence the legislation of any territory in which it has a direct or indirect presence or influence a political campaign in such territory or to promote propaganda in any such territory."
Hmmmm, now where have we seen that violated by them and on how many occasions?!
I don't think they do violate that point. Political stuff isn't a substantial part of the CofS's activities. A small part, yes.
Well, during the 1970's Marcus Allan went weekly with a team of Scios to lobby the Houses of Parliament (in London). This went on for years. What the specificity of the lobby was for and in what way the group that Marcus eventually became the leader of sought to influence the Parliamentary Members I don't have the details, but lobby and attempt to influence our law makers they did.
I could check with Marcus for details . . . there was a team of GAS types, sometimes staff, and if my memory is correct I believe even our Dart S. lent his weight to the venture on occasion.
And I would say that having Scn types infiltrating into government advisory and rule making bodies for the express purpose to influence outcomes of policy or governmental conduct in favor of the CofS . . . and this Charter would prohibit such vis a vis local government as well . . . would qualify as a violation, no?
I did not pay much attention to the proceedings in Riverside CA, but didn't the CofS have someone pulling a stunt down there.
Reading the Charter, there are two classes of members: full members, and student members. Marcus would have qualified as a student member, I expect. But even so the Charter prohibits "indirect" action to influence politics.
And while you acknowledge the "political stuff is a small part, but not a substantial part" . . . . the Charter prohibits any as substantial does not mean large or a big part; it is defined as: 1. Of, relating to, or having substance; material.
2. True or real; not imaginary. 3. Solidly built; strong. 4. Ample; sustaining: a substantial breakfast. 5. Considerable in importance, value, degree, amount, or extent: won by a substantial margin. 6. Possessing wealth or property; well-to-do.
Violation of such could be grounds for a revocation of charitable status . . . certainly in the USA.
The CofS activity in this area is not an insignificant activity, it is substantial and important to them, if small in comparison to all else it engages in . . . as was Marcus Allan and his team's operation on the UK . . . it was a weekly lobbying event that ran for years.
And in any event, an area of foot bullet embarrassment for them if they are proven to be in such violation. It blows them out of the water on their claimed position of being benign and solely religious.
It was more than weekly, someone was there EVERY day Parliament sat. I attended about a dozen times, a couple of those I was the sole lobbyist. We got some stellar names to come out and talk with us, even though we were not one of their constituents. They didn't have to come out, but they did and we were able to put our message across.
It was always fun when the Division Bell sounded. MP's scurrying from all quarters to get into the lobby vote room.
On another side of this discussion, following the successful break in at the WHO in Switzerland in 1968, Hubbard assigned Fred Hare to go to the USA and train as a psychiatrist. However, this plan did not materialise.
Even then he had plans to infiltrate "sleepers" into any opposing body so that info could be fed back as to any possible attacks. This practice clearly goes on in present time, as evidenced by the "mole" the cult planted in the SP Times.
Yep. This strikes me as "substantial," thoroughly planned and deliberately executed.
Yep. This strikes me as "substantial," thoroughly planned and deliberately executed. And I know for a fact these political activities were conducted in the UK after COSRECI was registered to operate and began its operations in the UK.
The next thing to gather fact on is the precise nature of the political and lobbying endeavours as to actions and intended outcomes.
Any others involved in this sort of political stuff on behalf of the CofS?
Fair enough. I'd agree with that.
EDIT: On third thoughts, I don't know. WTF does "substantial part" mean? Does it mean greater than 50% in terms of time or money spent? Does it mean even as small as 0.1% of time or money spent provided it makes a noticeable impact? Is it one of those "I know it when I see it" things?
This a very good idea, Paul. So having already done Articles Six and Seven, I will now go onto Article Five.
COSRECI Transcript of Constitution and General Rules
Articles Four, Five, Six and Seven
Please note the word institutions is an educated guess based upon the title of the Article.
ARTICLE FOUR . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Institutions
Section 1. . . . . . . . Establishment.
The Board of Trustees shall establish such seminaries, schools, study center and other institutes of learning at such times and places as it deems advisable, provided that such establishments exist for the furtherance of the religion of Scientology.
Section 2. . . . . . . .Teaching Faculty.
The Board of Trustees shall appoint qualified persons to the teaching faculties of established institutions for such period of time and on such terms as it deems necessary for the betterment of research, education and study.
ARTICLE FIVE . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Subordinate Colleges
The Board of Trustees shall by Charter establish such subordinate Colleges and study groups, appoint such officers to administer them on such terms as it deems necessary for the propagation of the faith.
The names of such subordinate Colleges or study groups shall be first approved by the Board of Trustees.
The members of such subordinate Colleges or study groups may adopt such bylaws as are consistant with the Constitution and General Rules or Special Rules made thereunder as the Board of Trustees may ratify for limited application to such subordinate Colleges or study groups.
ARTICLE SIX………………………. Dissolution.
The Board of Trustees shall be authorized at any time to dissolve the College in whole or in part subject to the relevant statutory provisions. Any surplus assets will be transferred to a person which exists wholly and exclusively for the purpose of furthering the doctrines and Creed of the religion of Scientology as formulated by its Founder, L. Ron Hubbard.
Section I[/b]. . . . .General
Unless the context otherwise requires, the singular shall include the plural and vice versa and the masculine shall include the feminine gender.
Section 2.. . . .Particular.
The definitions of this section are to assist in the interpretation of this Constitution and General Rules.
(a) “Special Rule” means a Rule passed by the Board of Trustees, and “By law” means a rule ratified by the Board of Trustees.
(b)”The College” unless the context otherwise requires means the Church of Scientology Religious Education College.
(c)”Religion” means the system, worship and human recognition of superhuman controlling power and the effect of this on the conduct of normal human beings.
Great. Articles 2 and 3 are the big ones. I'll do Article One.
Article 1 Paul
Article 2 ?
Article 3 ?
Article 4 ?
Article 5 David
Article 6 David
Article 7 David
Any other offers? The whole thing is at http://www.forum.exscn.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2151