Understanding "ARC", What It Really Is All About

[HelluvaHoax!]

Cogs they won't indicate your F/N on.....

Clearwater we've got a problem!

In the Scientology dictionary and handbook "AFFINITY" is defined as follows:

The most basic function of complete affinity would be the ability to occupy the same space as something else.

Scientology teaches that ARC = UNDERSTANDING. The more affinity you have the more understanding you have. The more you decrease the distance the more you increase the understanding.

Got it. So tell me the answer to this Scientology KOAN:

Why does one's understanding of Scientology itself actually decrease as you get closer to Scientology....and increase as you distance yourself from it?

Who understands Scientology more, a person auditing on OT VII or an ex-scientologist on this message board who has an aerial view from the ionosphere?

Oops, Ron conveniently forgot about distance and perspective increasing one's understanding. Hmmmm, wonder why?

 

[phoenix]

ACTUALLY RON HUBBARD STATES QUITE CLEARLY THAT ARC IS ONE OF THE FIRST ABBERATIONS.

HE STATES THAT ARC IS AN ABBERATION.

this is in the phoenix lectures.

 

[Zinjifar]

Clearwater we've got a problem!

In the Scientology dictionary and handbook "AFFINITY" is defined as follows:

The most basic function of complete affinity would be the ability to occupy the same space as something else.

Scientology teaches that ARC = UNDERSTANDING. The more affinity you have the more understanding you have. The more you decrease the distance the more you increase the understanding.

Got it. So tell me the answer to this Scientology KOAN:

Why does one's understanding of Scientology itself actually decrease as you get closer to Scientology....and increase as you distance yourself from it?

Who understands Scientology more, a person auditing on OT VII or an ex-scientologist on this message board who is has an aerial view from the ionosphere?

Oops, Ron conveniently forgot about distance and perspective increasing one's understanding. Hmmmm, wonder why?

Well, that makes sense. After all, 'pan-determinism' is being all the players in the game, so, affinity is when you're the other, so, the only person you have to like is you and then you don't have any Counter Intention from those pesky 'others'.

Zinj

 

[Ted]

Clearwater we've got a problem!

In the Scientology dictionary and handbook "AFFINITY" is defined as follows:

The most basic function of complete affinity would be the ability to occupy the same space as something else.

Scientology teaches that ARC = UNDERSTANDING. The more affinity you have the more understanding you have. The more you decrease the distance the more you increase the understanding.

Got it. So tell me the answer to this Scientology KOAN:

Why does one's understanding of Scientology itself actually decrease as you get closer to Scientology....and increase as you distance yourself from it?

Who understands Scientology more, a person auditing on OT VII or an ex-scientologist on this message board who is has an aerial view from the ionosphere?

Oops, Ron conveniently forgot about distance and perspective increasing one's understanding. Hmmmm, wonder why?

For the same reason getting closer to a psycho maniac makes you feel yucky.

If scientology were nothing but "koans" of understandings and persons of good will, getting closer would raise the affinity.

 

[looker]

Winning Chemicals

Here is an interesting video that describes the *feel good* chemicals our body creates when we feel or perceive we are winning and transversely what shuts down when we feel we are loosing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCu8acirMEg&feature=related Here is a video about a Canadian university that can produce out of body experiences using radio frequency stimulation of the temporal lobes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCVzz96zKA0

There was a TLC, NOVA or Discovery Channel show on what happens in the brain when a subject was in deep meditation showing the regions that became more active when the female subject was meditating Love into the universe. I have searched but cannot find it as of yet.

Damn I wish ESMB wasn't so addicting! If you guys weren't so intelligent and interesting, I could actually go get some real work done

 

[Gadfly]

ACTUALLY RON HUBBARD STATES QUITE CLEARLY THAT ARC IS ONE OF THE FIRST ABBERATIONS.

HE STATES THAT ARC IS AN ABBERATION.

this is in the phoenix lectures.

I think you are correct. I also remember from the PDC tapes that he makes it quite clear that ARC, the Tone Scale, the Know to Mystery Scale, etc. are ALL arbitraries of THIS universe. They are based on the set of considerations unique to this shared reality. That makes total sense to me.

But, "truth" on any level, that never stopped Hubby Dub from USING any of it to manipulate, trap, enslave and trick people!

Hubbard couldn't have done what he did, to such a degree, on such a wide-scale, to so MANY people, if there wasn't something there that he fathomed about something. All the sales tech in the world will NOT get people to buy sand when they live in the desert. Scientology is not entirely a charade, in that there is "truth" in it, regarding certain things, otherwise nobody could have been tricked. There had to be a little bit of something of value mixed in there somewhere, or you never could have taken the bait. That is my opinion, and of course, I may be wrong. Granted, there is a large amount of shite mixed in too. THAT is obvious. But, the only reason you accepted and put up with all of the shite is because of these isolated morsels of "truth". I think that any person trying to understand how and why he or she got sucked in, and stayed in for as long as you did, well past the point of recognizing many outpoints, needs to consider and evaluate THAT aspect of it all regarding yourself.

Mystic Disclaimer: The tulpa/apparition known as L. Ron (LIPS) Hubbard never actually existed. He was an empty vessel, animated solely by dark forces. He was never "alive". So, any discussions of him, the organization he created, or the subject he was involved in are meaningless.

 

[Cat's Squirrel]

I honestly doubt that Ron was that wise; "Er, I've got this much truth but I'll just mix it in with all the traps to make the cult I need to entrap people."

There are no Tech references for this but my belief is if you knew that much, you'd know not to abuse it.

 

[SchwimmelPuckel]

---------------- Sacred Cult Scripture ----------------
"But Homo Sapiens depends on that level of logic. He can't skip
skip skip and then pretend it's logical. A thetan can do that.
A thetan can just sit down and pretend it's logical. And he said,
"The submarines, ah, the submarines all have chrysanthemums
because of the beer." And the other fellow's supposed to figure
that out. And, uh, well, he's just stupid. He just doesn't get
the point, that the ruddyrods are on the left underside of no
spokes."

- L. Ron Hubbard on the Home Universe Theta Bop
--------------------------------------------------------

That should handle any confusion I would assume...

 

[Cat's Squirrel]

---------------- Sacred Cult Scripture ----------------
"But Homo Sapiens depends on that level of logic. He can't skip
skip skip and then pretend it's logical. A thetan can do that.
A thetan can just sit down and pretend it's logical. And he said,
"The submarines, ah, the submarines all have chrysanthemums
because of the beer." And the other fellow's supposed to figure
that out. And, uh, well, he's just stupid. He just doesn't get
the point, that the ruddyrods are on the left underside of no
spokes."

- L. Ron Hubbard on the Home Universe Theta Bop
--------------------------------------------------------

That should handle any confusion I would assume...

It certainly handled any remaining regret I had that I didn't get to do the SHSBC and the "wall of tapes"....

 

[SuperPowers]

Re: Quotation

Clearwater we've got a problem!

In the Scientology dictionary and handbook "AFFINITY" is defined as follows:

The most basic function of complete affinity would be the ability to occupy the same space as something else.

Hello HelluvaHoax,
I just noticed you used Ron's books keep yourself warm in the cold, and now you're quoting a Scn Dictionary? Did you solved the refueling issue?

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Hello HelluvaHoax,
I just noticed you used Ron's books keep yourself warm in the cold, and now you're quoting a Scn Dictionary? Did you solved the refueling issue?

hahaha!wickedfunny!hahaha

Yes, I started a new "green" eco company that collects harmful materials and recycles them into re-purposed "brown" valuable final products.

The CoS is my #1 client with an endless supply of incorrectly transcribed toxic books that are canceled & destroyed in favor of newer, standardly improved toxic books.

Our first hugely successful program was, as you have correctly noted, was our "Operation-Wall-of-Fire-Global-Bum-Warming". It is only January, but already our Bum Ambassadors posted highest-evers, consuming 75 million pages of LRH knowledge in their newly established sidewalk-based Scientology churches!

And now, we have launched our greatest initiative ever with "Operation-Wise-Up-And-Wipe" where individual pages from Ron's old books containing vital LRH Quotations are re-sold back to the Orgs as toilet paper. Now, parishioners can simultaneously read Source and get case gain even when temporarily off purpose in a wog bathroom, handling other feces to fry. (our slogan: "Recycle Green on White into Brown on White!")

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[pollywannacracker]

Clearwater we've got a problem!

In the Scientology dictionary and handbook "AFFINITY" is defined as follows:

The most basic function of complete affinity would be the ability to occupy the same space as something else.

Scientology teaches that ARC = UNDERSTANDING. The more affinity you have the more understanding you have. The more you decrease the distance the more you increase the understanding.

Got it. So tell me the answer to this Scientology KOAN:

Why does one's understanding of Scientology itself actually decrease as you get closer to Scientology....and increase as you distance yourself from it?

Who understands Scientology more, a person auditing on OT VII or an ex-scientologist on this message board who has an aerial view from the ionosphere?

Oops, Ron conveniently forgot about distance and perspective increasing one's understanding. Hmmmm, wonder why?

Because LRH dropped out of school and didn't get the part about inverse operations.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Because LRH dropped out of school and didn't get the part about inverse operations.

I will see you in hell....which is the punishment for even daring to think that you might know more than L. Ron Hubbard!

(great, I have confirmed your attendance along with all the other super cool party animals-- it's gonna rock baby!)

 

[Vinaire]

I recently posted this on another thread, and KnightVision suggested that I begin a separate thread since the subject is unique and I feel, just as KV does, that discussion of this would have value for many. Here it is with slight changes:


There is no inherent "meaning" or "value" or "correct use" in the "symbol" of ARC. That is something that people who "study" or read about ARC ASSUME, INFER and breathe INTO the notion. It doesn't exist there on its own. People who assume and infer that are glaring wonderful examples of how Scientology does what it does to believers.

...

Here is my view of reality.

(1) Perception is an interpretation of what is out there. For an individual one's perception is the actuality.

(2) But when one is not certain about that actuality, one seeks agreement from others to establish certainty. This certainty then becomes one's reality.

(3) Thus, reality is the certainty one gets about one's perception by getting agreement from others.

(4) Reality is something shared. Reality helps one overcome one's doubts about what one perceives (actuality).

(5) The essence of reality is agreement.

(6) Reality is the substitute for one's lack of certainty in one's own perception (actuality). Reality becomes unnecessary to the degree one acquires confidence in one's own perception.

(8 ) Agreement may boost one's perception and make it more real. Or, agreement may suppress one's perception and make it unreal.

(9) Unreality comes about when one invalidates one's perception (actuality).

.

 

[pollywannacracker]

I will see you in hell....which is the punishment for even daring to think that you might know more than L. Ron Hubbard!

(great, I have confirmed your attendance along with all the other super cool party animals-- it's gonna rock baby!)

Glad to join the party!!!

-PWC

 

[Sane Person]

Here is my view of reality.

(1) Perception is an interpretation of what is out there. For an individual one's perception is the actuality.

(2) But when one is not certain about that actuality, one seeks agreement from others to establish certainty. This certainty then becomes one's reality.

(3) Thus, reality is the certainty one gets about one's perception by getting agreement from others.

(4) Reality is something shared. Reality helps one overcome one's doubts about what one perceives (actuality).

(5) The essence of reality is agreement.

(6) Reality is the substitute for one's lack of certainty in one's own perception (actuality). Reality becomes unnecessary to the degree one acquires confidence in one's own perception.

(8 ) Agreement may boost one's perception and make it more real. Or, agreement may suppress one's perception and make it unreal.

(9) Unreality comes about when one invalidates one's perception (actuality).

.

The problem is LRH intentionally didn't differentiate what is real and what is merely "agreed upon reality". I guess because ultimately because Scientology takes on a kind of group solipsistic world view that revolves around him.
However, one's personal perspective is the only channel one may access to reality and so I can understand the importance played to personal perception. It's a pity that Scientology isn't really designed to help people understand this but to make them slaves to its ridiculous machine. At least that's "my reality". Anyone share it?

 

[Gadfly]

The problem is LRH intentionally didn't differentiate what is real and what is merely "agreed upon reality". I guess because ultimately because Scientology takes on a kind of group solipsistic world view that revolves around him.

However, one's personal perspective is the only channel one may access to reality and so I can understand the importance played to personal perception. It's a pity that Scientology isn't really designed to help people understand this but to make them slaves to its ridiculous machine. At least that's "my reality". Anyone share it?

I am guessing that what you mean by "real" is the "objective reality" that we share and can't really change (physical universe, energy, matter, space, time).

And that the "agreed upon reality" is any shared "subjective reality".

Yes? No?

On the last sentence, yes I share it!

Scientology is entirely designed to get people to chip in with their "agreement", and to thereby "create" this whole other "reality" (the Scientology paradigm and worldview). ARC is a primary tool used to suck people in and to get them to "agree".

The result, of course, are people (church members) who "understand" along and within a very rigid, fixed, slanted and biased framework of Scientology beliefs, attitudes, and opinions.

 

[nexus100]

The problem is LRH intentionally didn't differentiate what is real and what is merely "agreed upon reality". I guess because ultimately because Scientology takes on a kind of group solipsistic world view that revolves around him.
However, one's personal perspective is the only channel one may access to reality and so I can understand the importance played to personal perception. It's a pity that Scientology isn't really designed to help people understand this but to make them slaves to its ridiculous machine. At least that's "my reality". Anyone share it?

Einstein. At least with regard to reality.

 

[Ted]

I am guessing that what you mean by "real" is the "objective reality" that we share and can't really change (physical universe, energy, matter, space, time).

And that the "agreed upon reality" is any shared "subjective reality".

Yes? No?

On the last sentence, yes I share it!

Scientology is entirely designed to get people to chip in with their "agreement", and to thereby "create" this whole other "reality" (the Scientology paradigm and worldview). ARC is a primary tool used to suck people in and to get them to "agree".

The result, of course, are people (church members) who "understand" along and within a very rigid, fixed, slanted and biased framework of Scientology beliefs, attitudes, and opinions.

I have said it before, I'l say it again...

Logic opens the sale. Emotion closes it.

This is the organizational WHY on your floating needles being so important.

 

[Vinaire]

I have said it before, I'l say it again...

Logic opens the sale. Emotion closes it.

This is the organizational WHY on your floating needles being so important.

My understanding of "floating needle" is that it represents optimum attention with respect to the item under consideration. There are no areas of "fixed" or "dispersed" attention as far as that item is concerned.

From Tech Dictionary:
ATTENTION, 1. when interest becomes fixed, we have attention. (COHA, p. 99) 2 . a motion which must remain at an optimum effort. Attention is aberrated by becoming unfixed and sweeping at random or becoming too fixed without sweeping. (Scn 0-8, p. 75)

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