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Jon Atack has a new article coming at the Underground Bunker on the double bind he was kind enough to let me see .
I am including it in general discussion as I think it fits here .
I will not give away EVERYTHING in the article but I will say I LOVED it !
I will also include some general info on the double bind to whet your appetite !
double bind - (psychology) an unresolvable dilemma; situation in which a person receives contradictory messages from a person who is very powerful dilemma, quandary - state of uncertainty or perplexity especially as requiring a choice between equally unfavorable options
psychological science, psychology - the science of mental life
Based on WordNet 3.0, Farlex clipart collection. © 2003-2012 Princeton University, Farlex Inc.
He also will cover cognitive dissonance and I found an interesting quote on this in a book "I saw the confusion on some faces and blankness on others. My ed psych professor in grad school would have called this cognitive dissonance. "
Fixed for Life: The True Saga of How Tom Became Sally
This is to me a VERY interesting idea as the MU is said to CAUSE blankness but...
I have posted the following addendum and correction to Insidious Enslavement:study technology !
Re: INSIDIOUS ENSLAVEMENT:STUDY TECHNOLOGY
I am including it in general discussion as I think it fits here .
I will not give away EVERYTHING in the article but I will say I LOVED it !
I will also include some general info on the double bind to whet your appetite !
double bind - (psychology) an unresolvable dilemma; situation in which a person receives contradictory messages from a person who is very powerful dilemma, quandary - state of uncertainty or perplexity especially as requiring a choice between equally unfavorable options
psychological science, psychology - the science of mental life
Based on WordNet 3.0, Farlex clipart collection. © 2003-2012 Princeton University, Farlex Inc.
He also will cover cognitive dissonance and I found an interesting quote on this in a book "I saw the confusion on some faces and blankness on others. My ed psych professor in grad school would have called this cognitive dissonance. "
Fixed for Life: The True Saga of How Tom Became Sally
This is to me a VERY interesting idea as the MU is said to CAUSE blankness but...
I have posted the following addendum and correction to Insidious Enslavement:study technology !
Re: INSIDIOUS ENSLAVEMENT:STUDY TECHNOLOGY
Addendum and correction :
I have been communicating with Jon Atack and want to give him credit for pointing out something to me .
I got close to seeing and stating this but not quite right .
I will quote directly from an email : " I realized that throughout DMSMH he contradicts himself . I'd read it three times and never noticed . Presumably because the 'blank' that he relates to the mu actually occurs during the cognitive dissonance . Once you have confused someone , you insert the suggestions that will put them under your control('if you knew what was wrong with your mind it , it wouldn't be wrong ' is a favorite). Jon Atack
See , I knew there was confusion in m3 word clearing but not that the blankness is exactly a manifestation of cognitive dissonance and that is the confusion in effect !
It perfectly fits my model and the idea of blankness fitting hypnosis as the blankness is from the dissonance and creates the vulnerability Hub exploits !
I long knew that the Barriers to Study phenomena are a combined list of hypnosis symptoms and stress symptoms from forced cognitive restructuring in a covert hypnotic form but did not zero in on the dissonance CAUSING the blankness !
I understood the confusion as a repeated and needed method but did not call it the double bind as such or what I now call the circle of lies in the secret of Scientology part 1 :http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthrea...NTOLOGY-PART-1
This is an evolving and growing group of theories and like anything scientific can change and be falsified .
As I get more info from books , exes , and Arnie and Jon I examine my ideas and seek to improve or change them .
So I want to state that I - without giving AWAY his article entirely - STRONGLY agree and find it to be correct and compatible with and even IMPROVE my theories !
I looked at his interpretation and cognitive dissonance anew and concur !
For anyone who has not read my threads on study tech I have a recommended sequence of study :
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?37203-MOCKINGBIRD-RECOMMEND-S-A-SEQUENCE-OF-STUDY
And if you just want the one I am referring to here it is Insidious Enslavement : Study Technology
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?36369-INSIDIOUS-ENSLAVEMENT-STUDY-TECHNOLOGY
But I STRONGLY recommend reading its predecessor to understand it : the Black Heart of Dianetics and Scientology; the Black Heart of L Ron Hubbard
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...OF-DIANETICS-AND-SCIENTOLOGY-THE-BLACK-HEART-
I hope this helps and will be adding much more to this .
Really before this is put in book form I plan to rewrite and change some of this material .
I have been communicating with Jon Atack and want to give him credit for pointing out something to me .
I got close to seeing and stating this but not quite right .
I will quote directly from an email : " I realized that throughout DMSMH he contradicts himself . I'd read it three times and never noticed . Presumably because the 'blank' that he relates to the mu actually occurs during the cognitive dissonance . Once you have confused someone , you insert the suggestions that will put them under your control('if you knew what was wrong with your mind it , it wouldn't be wrong ' is a favorite). Jon Atack
See , I knew there was confusion in m3 word clearing but not that the blankness is exactly a manifestation of cognitive dissonance and that is the confusion in effect !
It perfectly fits my model and the idea of blankness fitting hypnosis as the blankness is from the dissonance and creates the vulnerability Hub exploits !
I long knew that the Barriers to Study phenomena are a combined list of hypnosis symptoms and stress symptoms from forced cognitive restructuring in a covert hypnotic form but did not zero in on the dissonance CAUSING the blankness !
I understood the confusion as a repeated and needed method but did not call it the double bind as such or what I now call the circle of lies in the secret of Scientology part 1 :http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthrea...NTOLOGY-PART-1
This is an evolving and growing group of theories and like anything scientific can change and be falsified .
As I get more info from books , exes , and Arnie and Jon I examine my ideas and seek to improve or change them .
So I want to state that I - without giving AWAY his article entirely - STRONGLY agree and find it to be correct and compatible with and even IMPROVE my theories !
I looked at his interpretation and cognitive dissonance anew and concur !
For anyone who has not read my threads on study tech I have a recommended sequence of study :
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?37203-MOCKINGBIRD-RECOMMEND-S-A-SEQUENCE-OF-STUDY
And if you just want the one I am referring to here it is Insidious Enslavement : Study Technology
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?36369-INSIDIOUS-ENSLAVEMENT-STUDY-TECHNOLOGY
But I STRONGLY recommend reading its predecessor to understand it : the Black Heart of Dianetics and Scientology; the Black Heart of L Ron Hubbard
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...OF-DIANETICS-AND-SCIENTOLOGY-THE-BLACK-HEART-
I hope this helps and will be adding much more to this .
Really before this is put in book form I plan to rewrite and change some of this material .