Update on the Sydney Ideal Org situation

[Panda Termint]

Excerpt from the latest Sydney Ideal Org News, Nov 18th, 2010:

"An update….​

So where are we at?

• We have raised over $8 million!
• We have a building that is all gutted and ready to go!
• We have contracts and paper work all done, ready for the final signature!
• We have builders ready to start!
  We need a mere $665,000 into the bank account and then we start!

Now - THIS is incredibly exciting! If we all pull together, get those pledges in by some real Tone 40 intention and group effort, if we get people to their next status, if everyone was to get a ticket or a few as a bonus for making it go right… We start!
It has been 7 years in the making and we are literally hours away! So, come on Sydney – let’s take it over the line!
Did you know that for every $ 1000 donation, whether previously pledged or not, you get a ticket in the new car competition? Call Paz for the details and get your tickets before they run out."

 

[Outethicsofficer]

Well let's see if this eventuates...and all for a mere $660,000 or so. Thanks Panda.
James

They may have raised $8 million...but how much of that has been spent!

 

[Kookaburra]

I notice they are still not saying a word about their Ideal Morgue being condemned.

 

[BC1]

So where are we at?

• We have raised over $8 million!
• We have a building that is all gutted and ready to go!
• We have contracts and paper work all done, ready for the final signature!
• We have builders ready to start!

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  So does this mean that they did demo work while the building was condemned? Or was it done prior to the Fire Safety issue?
  
  The fire department might be interested to know that they were doing demo work in a condemned building if that is what happened. And what better proof than with a document they sent out themselves.

 

[Jachs]

Alcaeus

On the 23rd,John f Kennedy told an audience, this time at Chicago,

"Twenty-five hundred years ago the Greek poet Alcaeus laid down the

principle which best sums up the greatness of Chicago: 'Not houses

firmly roofed,' he wrote, 'or the stones of walls well builded, nay, nor

canals and dockyards, make the city -- but men able to use their

opportunities.'"

 

[thefatman]

As of Tuesday, nothing new has been done on the Org. It's looking more and more abandoned everyday and is rapidly turning into the fastest growing moneysink Idle Org in the country.

 

[athena8]

As of Tuesday, nothing new has been done on the Org. It's looking more and more abandoned everyday and is rapidly turning into the fastest growing moneysink Idle Org in the country.

They've probably been told by uplines "$665,000? Where did you get that sum? You need to raise 4 million more." This is the repetitive pattern.

 

[thefatman]

Did a walk past this afternoon (Sunday the 9th of Jan) and once again no activity to speak of. This is making me happier and happier, the building is looking more and more dusty and abandoned.

Only 232 days left Cyrus... This is looking more and more impossible. You're not going to finish the Idle Org, just give up and piss off back to Boston, maybe Scientology in Australia might benefit from you leaving - but we don't want that, so stay for as long as you can .

Not having any building experience, but 232 days to do the sheer amount of things they wish to do is going to be near impossible without working 24/7 on the damn thing.

Also, if their lease was due to expire on the 31st of July, 2010, I recall them having the option to extend this by another 12 months, which would have them there till the 31st of July, 2011. Now, that's one month without an Org, which the cult can't have, so reduce their timeline down to 201 days (with the month of August taken out). Time is rapidly running out. Note, the 31st of August date comes from the expiry date on their DA for 201 Castlereagh St., which means they will have to reapply. Unfortunately, I don't know all the details regarding this but I will check with Sydney Council asap to figure out what happens when a DA lapses. Hopefully they'll have to reapply and we can go back and potentially get it rejected.

 

[scooter]

Did a walk past this afternoon (Sunday the 9th of Jan) and once again no activity to speak of. This is making me happier and happier, the building is looking more and more dusty and abandoned.

Only 232 days left Cyrus... This is looking more and more impossible. You're not going to finish the Idle Org, just give up and piss off back to Boston, maybe Scientology in Australia might benefit from you leaving - but we don't want that, so stay for as long as you can .

Not having any building experience, but 232 days to do the sheer amount of things they wish to do is going to be near impossible without working 24/7 on the damn thing.

Also, if their lease was due to expire on the 31st of July, 2010, I recall them having the option to extend this by another 12 months, which would have them there till the 31st of July, 2011. Now, that's one month without an Org, which the cult can't have, so reduce their timeline down to 201 days (with the month of August taken out). Time is rapidly running out. Note, the 31st of August date comes from the expiry date on their DA for 201 Castlereagh St., which means they will have to reapply. Unfortunately, I don't know all the details regarding this but I will check with Sydney Council asap to figure out what happens when a DA lapses. Hopefully they'll have to reapply and we can go back and potentially get it rejected.

thanx mate - keep us all posted on what you come up with.

 

[thefatman]

Quick walk past at about 9:45am this morning presented no real change to my last update. The biggest change I could see is that a piece of wood (looks like chipboard) has been screwed over the left door at the main entrance, presumably because the window was partially smashed for a number of months.

This leaves a grand total of 193 days left until the expiration of their D.A.

I'm getting excited.

 

[Outethicsofficer]

Thanks for your update, hmm it's wait and see..
James

 

[scooter]

Thanks fatman - looking promising for the cult to stay closed at Castlereagh

 

[Free to shine]

And they must be very pissed off that Melbourne beat them to an Idle Org status and they had to fly down here to swoon at the feet of DM.

 

[Panda Termint]

They'll be even more pissed when they find out what really happened to all those dollars they donated to the Sydney Ideal Org Fund.

 

[Happy Days]

Next move would be to have all Aussie orgs amalgamated into Melbourne Ideal Org so that it's not so idle and conserving resources ... the possibilities... the possibilities mmmmmmmmmm ...

 

[Mick Wenlock]

what is a D.A. ? I am assuming its not a Dead Agent, nor a District Attorney? I am guessing from the context that it is something akin to a building permit? And that their permit is set to expire in 190 or so days?

 

[Panda Termint]

Correct, Mick. Development Application. Council approval for changes to the existing building.

 

[Zhent]

This leaves a grand total of 193 days left until the expiration of their D.A.

Might want to look into whether that expiration counts if they actually START the upgrade before the DA expires. I have a suspicion that when the 193 days are up they will present some small piece of evidence to show 'the upgrade has started/is ongoing' and this will prevent their DA approval from being pulled.

Regardless of that, we can look forward to their lease of the 4 Hercules st org expiring in August I think (surely they haven't managed to squeeze ANOTHER lease out of the place!).


Speaking of the 201 DA, a new amendment was approved recently:

Section 96 modification for replacement of rotting window frames on south facade, reduced addition/retention of southwest bathroom wall, amendment to glass balustrade on existing stair.

 

[Opter]

Next move would be to have all Aussie orgs amalgamated into Melbourne Ideal Org so that it's not so idle and conserving resources ... the possibilities... the possibilities mmmmmmmmmm ...

Brilliant idea.

Pure commonsense.


Opter

 

[thefatman]

Might want to look into whether that expiration counts if they actually START the upgrade before the DA expires. I have a suspicion that when the 193 days are up they will present some small piece of evidence to show 'the upgrade has started/is ongoing' and this will prevent their DA approval from being pulled.

Regardless of that, we can look forward to their lease of the 4 Hercules st org expiring in August I think (surely they haven't managed to squeeze ANOTHER lease out of the place!).

This is true. I'm not 100% sure on the details but I'll check soon with the council regarding this. It could even be different for each DA.

I doubt after being given 2 years and having such a small amount of improvement will let it get through as it's possible the residents may complain about this getting dragged on for such an extended time (after all they did claim they wanted all Orgs 'ideal' by 2010 - something miles off occurring).

As for Hercules, it's possible they have extended the lease, the building was sold to people who wished to develop, but at a few 100K a year (I think it was around 400K ?? We had dox of this at one point), they may just hold it off till the market gets better and maintain a paying customer. That is, assuming they're paying their rent. But the original I recall reading (on the realtor's site) was that it was a max 12 months with a possible additional 6 on top. That would be around now, but I'm yet to see any signs of them moving out. So I'll assume they've extended the lease.