ESMB has entered archive mode. All posts and threads that were available to the general public are still readable. The board is still searchable. 

Thank you all for your participation and readership over the last 12 years.

If you want to join in the conversation, please join the new ESMB Redux at www.exscn2.net.



Wanna see brainwashing in real time?

Discussion in 'Conferences, Speeches, Radio Shows, and Live Publi' started by HelluvaHoax!, Nov 25, 2010.

  1. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on

    There is a very enjoyable short video of Mike Rinder and Marty Rathbun relaxing, chatting and fishing.

    They are two likable good-old-boys and the stories they tell about "back in the day with Dave" are entertaining as hell.

    But there is something else that happens in those minutes that clearly shows what happens to a person who lacks proper defenses against a cult leader.

    It is fascinating! I am not just talking about their slavish obedience to David Miscavich's bizarre and sociopathic behavior.

    After Mike tells the story, watch for Rathbun's tech analysis and then....

    Watch Mike Rinder's reaction to Marty.

    This is completely priceless. It explains EVERYTHING YOU EVER WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT MIKE AND MARTY AND COB AND SCIENTOLOGY.

    I won't wreck it by saying more....

    Enjoy!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7eW7_7XSvuI


    http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2010/11/25/ground-control-to-major-dave/
     
  2. Doom

    Doom Lurking.

    Yep it's subtle but mike does react.
    The subject is Batshit crazy.
    Priceless!
    :hysterical::hysterical:
     
  3. Big Farmer

    Big Farmer Patron with Honors

    Good spot hh. Disappointed that Marty didn't mention which implant station. Was it Mars or Venus? How are us wogs meant to grasp the subtleties of the tech if this info is missing.
     
  4. AngeloV

    AngeloV Gold Meritorious Patron

    The 'why' is implants. Hilarious. :duh:
     
  5. Good twin

    Good twin Floater

    Those guys should be drinkin beer and watchin porn. Aren't they tired of the same old cult crap? :confused2:
     
  6. SchwimmelPuckel

    SchwimmelPuckel Genuine Meatball

    Well, shit.. I'd like Mike Rinder to relay that little 'experience' in our thread about 'Justified Think'

    Hmm.. He won't I'm sure.. So I'm gonna try it:

    Mike Rinder's Right Thought: WTF is Marty saying!? - Implants n' shit.. He's rambling.. What's next? - The damned obscene dog? - And he's yakking up to stop me commenting too! - Fuck'it! I don't need to hear this shit!

    Mike Rinder's Justified Thought: Oh hell, Marty's my friend. He'll run out of steam shortly if I ignore it.. That' what I trained TR's for.. I can stand it for a little while.. There! - The TR's are useful for something after all!​

    :hattip:
     
  7. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on

    What I really loved about this clip is that they were aghast and horrified at COB's demented lunacy with "grounding wire technology" to handle case charge.

    They launched into a self-congratulatory joking-and-degrading session about ludicrous fake freedom technology. Yes Mike and Marty are now above all this cult brainwashing...or so they think. But.....

    Without missing even a beat, Rathbun launched into why COB was dramatizing charge--wholetrack implants--an exponentially greater lunacy than wires in the ground.

    And both of them utterly failed to see the divine irony in believing Hubbard's sci-fi delusions as any more valid than Miscavige's moronic madness.

    And now the beautiful moment arrives..........

    Rathbun compels his subject (Rinder) to agree with the implant revelation.

    Rinder, in true form, cannot bring himself to agree and mumbles a dismissive "whatever".

    But Rathbun knows the tech of dominating others' minds by repetition and certainty, so he won't let it go.

    We see Rinder afraid to disagree with his new guru (Rathbun) the same was he was afraid to disagree with his previous guru (Miscavige) and the same way he was afraid to disagree with his earliest guru (Hubbard).

    People, if hammered with enough certainty and force, tend to simply acquiesce to the greater power.

    That's the simplicity of "brainwashing". It's just a good mental beatdown where the victim stops fighting and covers up, hoping the assault will stop.

    Animals do it. It's called "playing dead".
     
  8. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on

    It's the implant described in History of Man....called the "wire implant" where people are tricked and led to believe that holding wires will give them spiritual freedom.

    Oh wait...I think that was the definition of auditing.
     
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2010
  9. Infinite

    Infinite Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller

    Who's crazier:

    DM for ordering the wire to be buried

    Martin Reed who buried the copper wire

    Rinder for going out there and holding on to it

    The rest of the followers for going along with it

    Marty for describing the situation as "an implant"
    FFS . . . they're *all* mad!!
     
  10. SchwimmelPuckel

    SchwimmelPuckel Genuine Meatball

    Which reminds me.. Has anybody tried to audit a PC who's grounded? - How does that affect the e-meter? - More, less TA?

    :unsure:
     
  11. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on

    :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:

    How many Int Execs wrote (or thought about writing) a Success Story from their huge wins on seeing the wireTech work?
     
  12. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    Why don't you try it out and see? Since your hands would be holding the cans, a nice thick copper rod with one end wired to a cold water pipe and the other thrust into your rectum should do the job nicely. :)

    Paul
     
  13. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    What I thought amusing was they were also fishing, and talking about that. Marty was thoroughly hooked by Hubbard decades ago, swallowing whole the History-of-Man poisoned bait, and doesn't realise it.

    Paul
     
  14. SchwimmelPuckel

    SchwimmelPuckel Genuine Meatball

    Hey! - Don't invent new technology for DM! - A cobber buttplug on the end of that ground rod of his.. Hmm.. Shit.. I wonder if there's some detail Mike Rinder left unsaid?

    :whistling:
     
  15. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on

    Sublimely cool observation! An allegorical sub-text that would have otherwise been completely missed!

    You musta been one of those insufferable students that actually understood all the subtle allusionary texturing of Shakespeare! :D
     
  16. GreyWolf

    GreyWolf Gold Meritorious Patron

    priceless!
     
  17. Arthur Dent

    Arthur Dent Silver Meritorious Patron

  18. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    They are fishing yet there is no beer.

    How can there be fishing with no beer?

    This is a staged event.
     
  19. Sindy

    Sindy Crusader

    :omg::hysterical::lol:
     
  20. Infinite

    Infinite Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller

    Of course it is.

    Marty - the great fisher of souls, the relaxed master of tech yet humble, simple soul, and all that. You gotta admit, its a step up from the "wife-beater attired cosy chat in the shack" format that was first attempted. I think this "fishing'n'dishing" format could be quite effective in that it gives the idea that all is well in Martyland; so well, in fact, that he can sit about fishing all day while also pronouncing upon the mad doings of David Miscavige. It could well hammer home some cognitive dissonance amongst the Scientologists who watch it simply for the fact that it could bring to mind the idea: "shit, when was the last time I went fishing".

    The fact that we can sit around laughing ourselves silly about it is an added, if unintended, bonus. I'm looking forward to the next episode. Perhaps M&M might branch out, hire a launch, and take a party of fellow Independents fishing . . .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfR7qxtgCgY