Wanted: Completions lists for the Stats Project

Kristi

New Member
I'm writing to ask your help in gathering information for the Scientology Stats Project at http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/index.html .

It's been a few years since we made any tabulations, partly because there have been some gaps in the data. If you have any Scientology magazines, or if you know anyone who does, you can help!

Thanks to some prodding from Patty Pieniadz, I've recently added several new completions lists to the site. (I believe Patty has been posting these to a.r.s., and it looks like they're finding their way here, as well. I'm always happy to see the data spread around where people can use it!)


My original motivation for the stats project was to gain a better understanding of the CoS's success rate. Were they really growing? Were they shrinking? By how much?

My preliminary analysis of Celebrity magazine stats, from November 2003, even gave me some approximate answers to questions like

How long do new members stay involved?
How many services do new members take?
How long does it take to go Clear?
How long does it take to go OT?

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/ccint/prelimanalysis.html

I'm looking forward to doing some updated analysis.

You can help.

Here's what I'm missing:


SOURCE MAGAZINE

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/source/index.html

Of the 190 issues of Source Magazine, we are only missing 3.

From 2007

Source 188
Source 189
Source 197-most current

One we get these three issues we can show Flag's completions stats since their opening in 1975. That's 32 years worth of stats.

FREEWINDS

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/fw/index.html

We are only missing 3 magazines. Once we have the lists from these 3 missing mags, we will have 19 years of Freewinds completions and OT 8's.

Missing

2006

Freewinds 61
Freewinds 62
Freewinds 63

CELEBRITY CENTER INT

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/ccint/index.html

Not all Celebrity Magazines have completions. Celebrity alternately issues a Major and Minor magazine. The Major magazine issues have the completions list.

MISSING

2005
Celebrity 368 September 2005
Celebrity 369 November 2005

2006
Celebrity 372 Major February 2006

We are missing Celebrity Issues from July 2006 to present. Those would be any Celebrity Mag numbered from 377 and up.

NOTE: I'm also missing some older Celebrity mags, such as 224 and 234. I would love to get completions lists from those, or to know that they don't have lists, if that's the case.



ADVANCE MAGAZINE - AOLA

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/advance/index.html

MISSING

2005
Advance Issue 181

2006
Advance Issue 190

2007
Advance 196
Advance 197
Advance 198

Once we have these Advance Magazines, it will give us a 14 year trend of AOLA's making of OT's.

ADVANCE MAGAZINE -- ANZO

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/advance-anzo/index.html

We are missing a majority of Advance Magazines from ANZO. Go to the link above and you will see what we currently have. Hopefully we have some Aussie's out there that have these mags.

ADVANCE MAGAZINE EUROPE

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/advance-eu/index.html

As per the above link we only have a few of these magazines.

ADVANCE MAGAZINE UK (AOSH)

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/advance-uk/index.html

We are missing:

Advance 1 to 148 - Older issues may not have completions.

2005
Advance 173
Advance 177
Advance 178

2006
Advance 179
Advance 181

and everything later than issue 181.

THE AUDITOR (ASHO)

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/auditor/index.html

These missing lists will allow us to complete a 7 year stretch of stats for ASHO.

2000
Auditor 286 April 2000
Auditor 287 June 2000
Auditor 289 October 2000

2004
Auditor 322 October 2004

2006
Auditor 328 February 2006
Auditor 331 September 2006

2007
Auditor 333 April 2007
Auditor 336 ?? not sure if it's been published.

THE AUDITOR UK - Saint Hill, UK

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/auditoruk/index.html

As per the above link, we are missing quite a few Auditor UK Magazines and we don't have any Auditor UK's after issue 330.


ORG MAGS

I would also LOVE org mags. Org lists are much harder to come by than other mags, but they're tremendously valuable for learning how the orgs (and missions) are doing. You can see the lists I've got so far here:

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/orgs/index.html

Please help me fill in this collection of stats.



HOW TO GET US THE COMPLETION LISTS

Please use any method that's convenient for you:

* US mail
* email
* if it's okay with Emma (wait for her to say it is), via attachment to this board or in a private message to me

US Mail

You can send an entire magazine or you can photocopy the completion pages with a copy of the cover of the magazine so we can see the Issue number. (If you can estimate the date and write down the actual copyright date of the magazine, that would be REALLY helpful, too.)

Patty has posted her address on a.r.s., and my address has been on my site for a long time:

Patty Pieniadz
130 Squire Street
New London, CT 06320

Or

Kristi Wachter
2443 Fillmore St #202
San Francisco, CA 94115

We will remove, shred, and safely dispose of ALL envelope information,
including the postmark, so OSA won't find any trace of you in the
garbage.

Email

Email scans of completion list pages to Patty:

ppieniadz at gmail dot com

or me at:

humanrights at racerrecords.com

Scan the completion lists and attach them to an email.

If the list was published as nice crisp black text on a white background then
please send it as a compressed .tif, preferably 600 dpi. 300 dpi is also fine.

If the list was NOT published as black text on a white background, but has color
and background tones, then a 300 dpi color jpeg is best.


If you're able to send along any completions lists, you will have my enormous thanks, along with the appreciation of the many people who use the site to learn more about Scientology's growth (or lack thereof).


As always, my huge appreciation goes out to Patty and the many others who have proofread and contributed lists to the project.


Thanks!


Kristi


P.S. As part of this whole project, I'm working on a better standardization of the many variant names for services. One big question I have:

Is "Hubbard Name of a Service" the same as "Name of a Service"?

Is there any difference between

Basic Art Course
and
Hubbard Basic Art Course

or

Dianetics Auditor Course
and
Hubbard Dianetics Auditor Course

?


P.P.S. Suggestions for types of analysis you'd like to see would be most welcome! I'm hoping to do overall completion tallies; numbers of individuals (to show the difference between 1000 comps by 750 people and 1000 comps by 200 individuals); Clears; OT levels; and PTS/SP completions. Maybe OT Hatting Courses, too. What else would be of interest?
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
P.S. As part of this whole project, I'm working on a better standardization of the many variant names for services. One big question I have:

Is "Hubbard Name of a Service" the same as "Name of a Service"?

Is there any difference between

Basic Art Course
and
Hubbard Basic Art Course

or

Dianetics Auditor Course
and
Hubbard Dianetics Auditor Course

No difference at all, Kristi.

Thank you very much for all your work on this. It is tremendously useful to see the true state of affairs with completions.

Paul
 

Bea Kiddo

Crusader
Thank you for your work, Kristi. Its wonderful.

(I do want to mention: you may already know this, that the Celebrity Mag is never accurate or complete on completions. There are people who do services and do not end up published in that magazine. Mainly celebs. Their progress would be hard to track).
 

Fancy

Patron Meritorious
I am posted on your list can you note me out of the church and in the freezone. I don't want to be noted in the church any more.

Thanks.

Name you can PM me for that.

Barb
 

Kathy (ImOut)

Gold Meritorious Patron
I am posted on your list can you note me out of the church and in the freezone. I don't want to be noted in the church any more.

Thanks.

Name you can PM me for that.

Barb

Kristi,

Same for me. I hate that I'm listed on the completions. But I do appreciate your work. TAS was one of the first websites I found when I was getting out.

Thank you for your work.
 

Kristi

New Member
Thanks to everyone for your kind words! It's always nice to be appreciated!

Paul - thanks for the answer. That's most helpful.

BeaKiddo - sure, I know they're not complete or perfectly accurate. But I do believe some data's better than no data, and it was great to have some real data to examine questions like how long does it take to go Clear (a question with lots of different answers, but at least my understanding is based on DATA now instead of guesswork!)

Barb and ImOut - I'm happy to post clarifying info on the site, as I've done, for example, here:

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/source/source139.html

If you'd like something like this (preferably short and to the point), please feel free to drop me an email at [email protected] (or a PM here, but email's probably faster), and I'll see if I can add it before the end of the decade.

Thanks!

Appreciatively,

Kristi
 
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