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WARNING: This Scientologist Staff Member Works Actively on Scientology Disconnection

Discussion in 'Fair Game and Disconnection Victims' started by FinallyFree, Jun 29, 2010.

  1. Good twin

    Good twin Floater

    FF thank you for sharing this information. I understand your reasons for holding back some of what you know. I also understand how eager you must be to share what you know.

    I remember when I first got out of the church and found ESMB (thanks to Kathy) I had several things going on regarding getting myself and friends and family out safely. I wasn't as worried about myself being Fair Gamed as I was about others being harrassed or harmed. I had so much I wanted to tell, but had to time my disclosure and release my story and info in bits and pieces. I was constantly requesting permission to tell.

    So....I get it Hun. Take your time and don't compromise anyone's safety or confidence. This is good stuff.

    Please be patient with her folks. I have a feeling she has other stories to share, if we just give her some space here.

  2. FinallyFree

    FinallyFree Gold Meritorious Patron

    I know Bill Bowen is still alive and currently located in the L.A. area. Last I heard he was making a crappy documentary about the foster care system.

    The Klamath Falls address was never Ruths or the company - it is a residence Ruth never owned, rented or lived at. From what I know the group home was a easy way to make a quick buck while while offering real help to older kids in the system. She didn't do it either because she couldn't get the government grants or didn't want "government money" I forget which.

    The Jaydee location was a home they purchased in their name for Ruth's best friend at the time. Ruth and Bill never lived there.
  3. FinallyFree

    FinallyFree Gold Meritorious Patron

    I totally see what you are saying. I do, but whta do you do when a home like the Bowens is better than the one they came from? I just think it was better to be in the Bowen's home then at home being molested, beaten and not fed.
  4. FinallyFree

    FinallyFree Gold Meritorious Patron

    Thank you GT. I do understand the frusteration and demand for doxs, I do and I would have posted them under different circumtances. I guess I thought this would go down a little differently. I really thought I had earned enough "street credit" here for people to know I mean what I say and say what I mean - and I can be trusted.

    Who know's? Maybe a member of that family is here :whistling:

    Maybe that member of the family could go right on ahead and post those docs for me??? :whistling::whistling:
  5. Good twin

    Good twin Floater

    Wow. You're good. :coolwink:
  6. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    I do not want your details about Tory. This thread isn't about Tory.
    Post something supporting your claim that 'Scientologist Staff Member Works Actively on Scientology Disconnection '. Stop derailing your thread and stop the rumor mongering. Take your issues with Tory to Tory.
  7. FinallyFree

    FinallyFree Gold Meritorious Patron

    Fuck me Mary - Gotcha.

    You gonna stop being a bitch to me on my own thread now?
  8. The Great Zorg

    The Great Zorg Gold Meritorious Patron

    Not derailed, but a little wobbly!

    We're losing the team spirit here peeps... I keep reminding myself that the ultimate goal of the clam's osa is to get us fighting and bickering. :unsure:

    I was thrown off because of the lack of DOX, but this is ESMB, we don't wear GF masks while posting or interacting and we don't demand DOX.

    WWP is doing an honourable job of whittling away at a greedy, sinister, mind controlling cult and they have their procedures and rules. So are we here at ESMB, but in a different fashion. So is Arnie, again in a different manner. So is AGP, however bizarre his tactics are, the have effect. Even Marty's blog and site and the Indies are chipping away at the existing cult but in a snake-eating-it's-tail manner I believe.

    This is like a world war.... all the allied powers: ESMB, WWP, IS, AGP, AL, et al... we know who the enemy is, we know who has to truly save the world from who. We are also snipping a little at each other, like allies do... it's stressful at times but I'm counting on us winning the war, BIG TIME! :yes: :thumbsup:
  9. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    Oh, so now you own the thread? Ha!

    I'm not being a bitch to you. Just keep the posts focused on your OP and I'm fine with you.
  10. RogerB

    RogerB Crusader

    Has gotten that fat? I knew the Bowens in 1980-1, and Billy boy was pretty solid then He was into gem trading . . . using wholesale bulk gems to trade for real items like yachts, real estate and such.

  11. Magoo

    Magoo Gold Meritorious Patron

    FF---I'm not derailing anything. I responded to something that was
    posted, on this thread, that I'd written, plus some info I knew.

    If you have "information" please send me a PM, and thanks for letting
    all know about Ruth Bowen working to break up families.

    Thank you.

    My best to all :yes:

  12. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    Tory, she replied to you at this post
    On this page. Follow the rest of the posts there after
  13. Voltaire's Child

    Voltaire's Child Fool on the Hill

    FF didn't post dox because she can't betray their identities. OMG! What is this fucking shit with the "give us more, give us moar." -- again.

    FF has said why she posted this the way she did. She explained her response to Tory. She invited Tory to PM her.

    FinallyFree, I'm glad you're posting this. I'm in Seattle but I've never met this assbag Bowen. She sounds like a very nasty piece of work. I don't know that there's anything I can do but if you think there is, me being out here and all, do let me know.

    Anonymary, just put this thread on ignore and please don't find fault with someone who's doing a good thing here for explaining what she wants to see on her thread and why.
  14. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

  15. Voltaire's Child

    Voltaire's Child Fool on the Hill

    I won't even comment on the incredible irony of this statement. :dieslaughing:
  16. Magoo

    Magoo Gold Meritorious Patron

    Ok I PM'd FF---so back to the topic of "Disconnection" and those that
    create that.

    Unbelievable that Ruth Bowen is doing such actions. I guess since I lived through her abuses with many, many people, it's not hard for *me* to believe.

    I wish she'd stop hurting families, and that goes for C of S, also.

  17. Kookaburra

    Kookaburra Gold Meritorious Patron

    Perhaps so, but there are plenty of great families that want children. You don't have to stick foster kids in another bad environment, just because it is slightly less bad than the one they came from.
  18. Challenge

    Challenge Silver Meritorious Patron

    I'm in the Seattle area, too.
    I will even drive by and check a name on a mailbox. Which is more than some "critics" will do.
    You know who I mean.

  19. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    That totally works for *me*. :yes:

    I do understand that certain ESMB'ers tend to get a little cranky when they don't get the full story fast enough. Like this: :D


    I very much look forward the rest of the story. :yes:
    My OT Powerz are telling me it will be worth waiting for. :coolwink:
  20. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    I admonished her for her rude and inappropriate comments about Tory and derailing her own thread. Patience or lack of it had nothing to do with it.